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Re: The Official Dwayne Wade <<<<<< you thread
Kyrie will never get the respect he deserves, I suppose.
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The Black Sheep wrote:CBarca wrote:Giannis isn't top 3 atm, he was but he's cooled off a bit and Bucks are playing like shit
As soon as Kidd is fired he'll go back to being MVP. Can't believe how much this team is being held back right now. I think the worst in 3 point defense right now and that's even with the incredible length the Bucks have. Every offensive bucket that isn't transition is a grind to get, because there is no movement, no ideas, no nothing. Kidd is shocking.
Bucks will improve over the season though. Being .500 while playing pretty much as badly as possible bodes good things for the Bucks
Could be the Bledsoe effect...bring back Brogdon
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Nah these issues were evident before Bledsoe came (which is why the bucks were two games under .500 when Bledsoe showed up. They've got a positive record since Eric). They've been evident since the beginning of the season and partially last season. Some of it is regression of role players Teletovic and Delly, who both looked like they could give 8 points each off the bench, but now look like they would be lucky to combine for 8 points.
I thought that the problems were simply that movement was stagnant because nobody could properly drive other than Giannis, and another player of quality would lighten the weight on Giannis, provide another threat and hopefully help spacing. Bledsoe though hasn't been too good since he's arrived (which I'm ok with and he'll get better), but more than that it's clear that the problem wasn't getting another offensive player, it was the entire offensive scheme. You see the way the Spurs, the Warriors, or the Celtics play and there are clear plans and good coaching. In the Bucks it looks like a Redknapp team "go out there and run around a bit, if you get into trouble, give it to Giannis".
Meanwhile on the defensive end, nobody knows where to be which is how you give up 19 3 pointers to the Mavs. Not only that, but they foul a lot because nobody is in the right position.
The players just look confused out there.
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El Gunner wrote:Kyrie will never get the respect he deserves, I suppose.
Nah we just don't think someone whose shooting percentages, points per game, assists etc etc that are down across the board is deserving of MVP consideration.
Nobody who averages 22-5-3 will ever win MVP.
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Agreed. Although it's altogether too early to start discussion on it anyway tbh.
How has Rondo looked Mole?
How has Rondo looked Mole?
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Fantastic, we look really good when he's on the floor.
My biggest issue with us right now is our 1-3 line up is far too small, for some reason Gentry thinks because we have Cousins and AD the Point Guard-Shooting Guard-Small Forward we can run out really tiny line ups.
But when Cousins or AD goes to the bench they put out bigger wings
It's utterly baffling, Rondo and Jrue is fine but their needs to be a legitimate small forward out there with them. This Rondo-Jrue-Moore line ups need to die a death.
My biggest issue with us right now is our 1-3 line up is far too small, for some reason Gentry thinks because we have Cousins and AD the Point Guard-Shooting Guard-Small Forward we can run out really tiny line ups.
But when Cousins or AD goes to the bench they put out bigger wings
It's utterly baffling, Rondo and Jrue is fine but their needs to be a legitimate small forward out there with them. This Rondo-Jrue-Moore line ups need to die a death.
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Great Leader Sprucenuce wrote:El Gunner wrote:Kyrie will never get the respect he deserves, I suppose.
Nah we just don't think someone whose shooting percentages, points per game, assists etc etc that are down across the board is deserving of MVP consideration.
Nobody who averages 22-5-3 will ever win MVP.
Ever, like its disrespectful at this point. Could you imagine Harden being snubbed? Unreal
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I'm sure his points average will rise throughout the season.
The overall statline shouldn't be paramount anyway.
The overall statline shouldn't be paramount anyway.
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El Gunner wrote:I'm sure his points average will rise throughout the season.
The overall statline shouldn't be paramount anyway.
It certainly will go up and he could very well be in the conversation later on
The overall stat line is almost always paramount, in fact, is there a time it wasn't? Maybe Steve Nash winning over Kobe those years ago but a different comparison
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It's always paramount, the only ones i can think of in recent history who didn't have a ridiculous stat line was Rose and Steph's first MVP.
But those two had ridiculous impact that as of now Kyrie hasn't shown and had a ridiculous amount of wins ( although this part Celtics might achieve)
I don't want to put Kyrie down, i think he's fantastic but the reality is Boston are 20th in offence and winning games mainly due to their defence.
It's not like he's absolutely carrying them like Westbrook did with OKC and Harden with Houston.
But those two had ridiculous impact that as of now Kyrie hasn't shown and had a ridiculous amount of wins ( although this part Celtics might achieve)
I don't want to put Kyrie down, i think he's fantastic but the reality is Boston are 20th in offence and winning games mainly due to their defence.
It's not like he's absolutely carrying them like Westbrook did with OKC and Harden with Houston.
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^ or even more than IT did last season, and I don't even like IT, we just can't deny that he had an incredible season and Boston finished as the top seed without the ridiculous play of Brown, Tatum and Horford
Not crediting Kyrie is more of a sign of respect to Boston and Stephens, they've been tremendous as a group
Not crediting Kyrie is more of a sign of respect to Boston and Stephens, they've been tremendous as a group
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Yeah when i watch Celtics, if they are blowing a team out then Horford and Brown ( sometimes Tatum) keep them in the game or slightly ahead and then Kyrie takes over in the 4th.
Marcus Smart despite not starting has a massive impact on games too.
Marcus Smart despite not starting has a massive impact on games too.
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Anyways, why is there only one game on today? Who made this schedule ffs
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Bruh there is CL
If you guys are interested, you can catch college basketball on too, but I imagine you guys wouldn't like it much without being invested in it. Wisconsin vs Lavar Ball and the Stealing Bois tonight
If you guys are interested, you can catch college basketball on too, but I imagine you guys wouldn't like it much without being invested in it. Wisconsin vs Lavar Ball and the Stealing Bois tonight
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Michael Porter out for the season. Curious to as how this will affect if he stays another year or declares to secure some guaranteed money.
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Millsap out for three months
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And there I lose another centre
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El Gunner wrote:And there I lose another centre
Dwight Howard is available
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i am just about fed up with Waiters ffs
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El Gunner wrote:And there I lose another centre
Millsap is a centre in fantasy? Interesting.
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Great Leader Sprucenuce wrote:El Gunner wrote:And there I lose another centre
Millsap is a centre in fantasy? Interesting.
It's awful.
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I agree tbh lol.
Yahoo are far too generous with their positions.
Yahoo are far too generous with their positions.
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Don't you think it would be too hard otherwise? Not that I disagree
Positionless era>
Positionless era>
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Well hard for one would be hard for the other...think it would add a managerial aspect to it. For example some nights you would have to select between two players as opposed to having everyone on your roster playing. Also would give the utility positions more meaning.
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Kyrie's been great and his defense especially has been a pleasant surprise. But Horford's been our MVP so far and has to be a top 3 DPOY candidate in the league at this point.
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dmize wrote:Kyrie's been great and his defense especially has been a pleasant surprise. But Horford's been our MVP so far and has to be a top 3 DPOY candidate in the league at this point.
Yeah agree with this.
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