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Re: Barca on Ousmane Dembele
BarrileteCosmico wrote:this seems like a panic purchase where Bart is trying to save his job and doesn't blink at spending the bulk of Neymar's sale price.Harmonica wrote:https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/InflationBarrileteCosmico wrote:So not excited about this transfer. Paying 30m extra than RM did for CR for a guy with no achievements
That sums it up. Would have loved if we signed some solid midfielder instead.
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Agreement confirmed by Dortmund:
105m € upfront, + 40% addons (=147m €)
http://www.bvb.de/News/Uebersicht/Ousmane-Dembele-vor-Wechsel-zum-FC-Barcelona
105m € upfront, + 40% addons (=147m €)
http://www.bvb.de/News/Uebersicht/Ousmane-Dembele-vor-Wechsel-zum-FC-Barcelona
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So it's official. As I said, I dont give a damn about the price & I'm glad we were kinda able to fill up the void that Neymar left behind him. It's an exciting transfer.
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Wow just saw the price. Assuming add on are attainable, Barca got played hard
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CBarca wrote:Wow just saw the price. Assuming add on are attainable, Barca got played hard
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In todays market I'd say you got it nice, especially if the add ons are attainable, since fullfilling the requirements for add ons means you got a good player...
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Trading Neymar for Dembele + 70m
Dembele who hasn't done a damn thing 70m less than Neymar, one of the greatest players in the world
Dembele who hasn't done a damn thing 70m less than Neymar, one of the greatest players in the world
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You had no choice tbf, there is no viable ready made Neymar replacement.
Name any preferable forward and I'll tell you why it would have been worse. Signing someone like Dembele is the best course of action.
Name any preferable forward and I'll tell you why it would have been worse. Signing someone like Dembele is the best course of action.
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You're too fixated on the price. Everyone in the world knew that Barca was rich with funds due to the Neymar transfer. You had no leverage or position in the market to work with.
I understand being upset about 40M for Paulinho, but Dembele should be a player to be excited for. You've immediately added potency to your attack. Dembele won't be a scrub in any sense.
I understand being upset about 40M for Paulinho, but Dembele should be a player to be excited for. You've immediately added potency to your attack. Dembele won't be a scrub in any sense.
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Why didnt we just get mbappe in the first place? Has a higher ceiling, guarantees goals, is younger and is cheaper? Apparently, psg are smarter it seems.
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Bankz wrote:Why didnt we just get mbappe in the first place? Has a higher ceiling, guarantees goals, is younger and is cheaper? Apparently, psg are smarter it seems.
Because you have Suarez and Dembele is a much better fit for the LW.
Secondly he won't be cheaper, I can accept he's the only real alternative which you could have gone for.
Fact is both he and Dembele have one great season and therefore both are "risks" but when it comes to players like this you have to take these risks.
Those complaining about the risk and money remind me of those who claimed Neymar would flop because never done it in Europe etc etc.
Every young player is a risk at some point.
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That's decent price, will still leave 117M from the Neymar deal to get Coutinho. Speaking of the devil.Hapless_Hans wrote:Agreement confirmed by Dortmund:
105m € upfront, + 40% addons (=147m €)
http://www.bvb.de/News/Uebersicht/Ousmane-Dembele-vor-Wechsel-zum-FC-Barcelona
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CBarca wrote:Trading Neymar for Dembele + 70m
Dembele who hasn't done a damn thing 70m less than Neymar, one of the greatest players in the world
True, how are you gonna feed your family now that all the money from your account went to Dembele....
Why do people care so much about the price (especially in 2017), to the point where it seems like it's your own money that you needed to survive until the end of the month?
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Fair point great leader. Maybe we are too hard on him. Its just that i feel barca could have done more. Shift messi deeper and sign up griezmann and use him and a second striker along with suarez. He's world class, more experienced, guarantees goals and cheaper too.
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Bankz wrote:Why didnt we just get mbappe in the first place? Has a higher ceiling, guarantees goals, is younger and is cheaper? Apparently, psg are smarter it seems.
Mbappe is as unproven as Dembele and has been linked to PSG for 180M so he would definitely not be cheaper.
The only ones who make sense in this thread are not Barca fans.
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Nice to see Banks still be a Barca fan after all this. Really thought he would have defected by now. Mbappe and Dembele would have been equally ideal so it's not like it's any less of a loss to "miss out" on Kylian.
Griezmann would have essentially put way too much pressure on Alba to provide width since the former is no way shape or form, a winger. Alba already does not drop back quick enough so he would have been constantly exposed to the elements. Dembele make sense in that regard.
It is a very good signing, not actually ideal on the method but at this point, the Barca board is all about the ends justifying the means. I do not blame Barca fans for constantly being skeptical on everything that is happening but it's a good signing.
Griezmann would have essentially put way too much pressure on Alba to provide width since the former is no way shape or form, a winger. Alba already does not drop back quick enough so he would have been constantly exposed to the elements. Dembele make sense in that regard.
It is a very good signing, not actually ideal on the method but at this point, the Barca board is all about the ends justifying the means. I do not blame Barca fans for constantly being skeptical on everything that is happening but it's a good signing.
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The fee might be somewhat inflated due to the circumstances (late in the window, the Neymar affair with its money and pressure influx, Dembélés behaviour).
But apart from that noone that watched Dembélé for about 15 minutes last season can be surprised that he would be one to go for crazy money.
You can see immediately he's not just your usual super talent. He's the real deal.
People were joking how he would go from BVB to Bayern, but us Bayern fans (let's not forget we were close to signing before he went to BVB him too) knew pretty soon after the season had started that he would be the kind of player who would be dealt in a class above our transfer dealings.
I just thought it would all go down next summer, as without the Neymar mess he would have stayed another year and next summer crazy money would have been spent on him.
But apart from that noone that watched Dembélé for about 15 minutes last season can be surprised that he would be one to go for crazy money.
You can see immediately he's not just your usual super talent. He's the real deal.
People were joking how he would go from BVB to Bayern, but us Bayern fans (let's not forget we were close to signing before he went to BVB him too) knew pretty soon after the season had started that he would be the kind of player who would be dealt in a class above our transfer dealings.
I just thought it would all go down next summer, as without the Neymar mess he would have stayed another year and next summer crazy money would have been spent on him.
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Mbappe hates Barca... his most hated club as a kid along with OM.
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People will laugh at this thread in the foreseeable future.
Who is this guy? Did half of you whom are over the moon for some reason, had even heard of him 2 months ago?
The guy was signed for half what Barcelona are going to pay for bonuses alone, a year ago! €15m, that is. You're telling me he's achieved so much in a year to be worth ten times that amount? BVB milked Barcelona hard and they'll be laughing about it for years
Granted, I haven't watched him apart from a CL match last season. But from the highlights I have watched he seems extremely immature and inefficient despite having glimpse of being a skilled footballer. I'm not sure about his antics either.
Who is this guy? Did half of you whom are over the moon for some reason, had even heard of him 2 months ago?
The guy was signed for half what Barcelona are going to pay for bonuses alone, a year ago! €15m, that is. You're telling me he's achieved so much in a year to be worth ten times that amount? BVB milked Barcelona hard and they'll be laughing about it for years
Granted, I haven't watched him apart from a CL match last season. But from the highlights I have watched he seems extremely immature and inefficient despite having glimpse of being a skilled footballer. I'm not sure about his antics either.
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Boy you would shit on anything Barca related these days. If we didnt sign anyone - meh. We signed a promising talent - ugh. We possibly sign Coutinho - yeah well but in Spain defenders are more advanced technically and have better hair. Also the humidity is at higher levels in Spain I don't think he can cope, we'll have to spend some extra money on bottled water oh my momma
Honestly my eyes hurt from reading this sometimes. Basically it's either Hazard, Ronaldo or death and suffering?
Honestly my eyes hurt from reading this sometimes. Basically it's either Hazard, Ronaldo or death and suffering?
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Can a mod delete a post?
I'd appreciate not having to read a blurb of racist stupidity against players of African descent. Quite frankly, it's just as embarrassing as it is disrespectful.
I'd appreciate not having to read a blurb of racist stupidity against players of African descent. Quite frankly, it's just as embarrassing as it is disrespectful.
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danyjr wrote:People will laugh at this thread in the foreseeable future.
Who is this guy? Did half of you whom are over the moon for some reason, had even heard of him 2 months ago?
The guy was signed for half what Barcelona are going to pay for bonuses alone, a year ago! €15m, that is. You're telling me he's achieved so much in a year to be worth ten times that amount? BVB milked Barcelona hard and they'll be laughing about it for years
Granted, I haven't watched him apart from a CL match last season. But from the highlights I have watched he seems extremely immature and inefficient despite having glimpse of being a skilled footballer. I'm not sure about his antics either.
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Also black players are early bloomers due to their superior physique (mainly pace and strength) at earlier ages, hence they always break through easier in the youth ranks than others. If you look at any youth team in Europe, they are filled with players with African decent but you look at the senior teams and little by little those players are replaced by other ethnicities as others catch up. There have been too many Balotellis to name whom never made it big.
Sorry, but if you hadn't heard of Ousmane Dembélé until 2 months ago, you are not up to date in the world of football, like at all, period.
You basically admit you have no clue about him. So why is your post that long?
Not even going to bother about the spoiled part
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Funny, not a single counter argument against what I said apart from:
But I guess I'm expecting too much from a bunch of virgins checking out online forums on a Friday night
- Accusing me of being a racist where I gave evidence to black players being superior at early ages.
- Accusing me of not having heard of Dembélé where I was talking about others.
But I guess I'm expecting too much from a bunch of virgins checking out online forums on a Friday night
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For starters, that wasn't actually racist (to me). An observation that many a folk have actually voiced. However, if you haven't actually watched Dembele apart from UCL matches, you don't think your viewing material is a bit short handed to make such a damning opinion?!
I do agree Barcelona got skinned extremely hard on this deal, a deal even Levy might blush and be like "damn son". Then again, you wanted Barcelona to go for Hazard, a player who literally has a bloated reputation and one who tends to, on a lot of occasions, flatter to deceive.
I do agree Barcelona got skinned extremely hard on this deal, a deal even Levy might blush and be like "damn son". Then again, you wanted Barcelona to go for Hazard, a player who literally has a bloated reputation and one who tends to, on a lot of occasions, flatter to deceive.
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He was being hyped last season when he signed for Dortmund, lots of new CR references etc although he's very different type of player.
Ignoring that I don't know why you are so against him considering you have hardly watched him.
It's no different to those who shat on Neymar because he they hadn't watched him outside of a few friendlies for Brazil lol.
I just don't understand being that passionate against someone you admit you know next to nothing about.
Ignoring that I don't know why you are so against him considering you have hardly watched him.
It's no different to those who shat on Neymar because he they hadn't watched him outside of a few friendlies for Brazil lol.
I just don't understand being that passionate against someone you admit you know next to nothing about.
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It's clear to anyone who's seen him play that he's going to be an absolute star. Sad that Barca got him. He's worth the transfer imo.
Also get away with that black players early bloomers racist shit
Also get away with that black players early bloomers racist shit
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