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Post by Unique Sat Aug 20, 2016 7:08 am

part 1: http://www.goallegacy.net/t39480-english-premier-league-16-17-discussion


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Firenze wrote:lol seeing Unique having a meltdown every time and calling out Klopp when you lose games

he's a top 8 manager in the world lol

he's actually too good for you lads IMO yeah it looks like it. What are we doing better now than we were in the first game he played

you do need to invest in defenders but again, you aren't gonna go drop 30+m on one which is the cost of even developing talents in this market

you need to be looking at the likes of Williams etc though, odd you arent
tell me where we have improved since klopps first game in charge.

On the pitch?
I don't see it tbh. Still getting raped at the back and still can't break down lge 1 fodder.
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Post by Nishankly Sat Aug 20, 2016 7:08 am

We are so frustrated, Taking long shots smh
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Post by Jay29 Sat Aug 20, 2016 7:10 am

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your not gonna use that one off title win to counter my point are you.


Yup, I am. And it's not the only example either.
give me a few more then.

Man Utd 2013, won the league with a midfield of Tom Cleverly, Antonio Valencia, Darren Gibson, a 38 year old Paul Scholes, Ryan Giggs and Ashley Young.

Roberto Mancini and Manuel Pellegrini each have league titles.

Roberto Di Matteo has won the Champions League.

Liverpool 13/14 were a win away from a league title with Brendan Rodgers as manager.

It's really not as simple as "top manager + top players". Guardiola couldn't win the Champions League with Bayern, Ancelotti couldn't win the league with Madrid, Wenger never won the CL with that invincible Arsenal team. And so on.

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Post by Unique Sat Aug 20, 2016 7:12 am

Red Alert wrote:Our first choice defenders in Sakho and Matip are not available. Lol

Also our anchors in Can / Lucas are also either injured / unfit.
man you talk out of your ass. Them 2 have never even stepped on the pitch together before and your saying they are first choice. You just talk shit get proven wrong then talk more shit to try and cover it up.
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Post by Nishankly Sat Aug 20, 2016 7:12 am

CAPOUEEEEEEEEE
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Post by Great Leader Sprucenuce Sat Aug 20, 2016 7:13 am

Who does he play for now lol?
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Post by Firenze Sat Aug 20, 2016 7:13 am

really? lmao I bought Capoue as bench fodder and have him third in my sub rotation

scored in pre season and now scored in both PL games LMAO
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Post by Firenze Sat Aug 20, 2016 7:13 am

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Post by Unique Sat Aug 20, 2016 7:15 am

Jay29 wrote:
Unique wrote:
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Yup, I am. And it's not the only example either.
give me a few more then.

Man Utd 2013, won the league with a midfield of Tom Cleverly, Antonio Valencia, Darren Gibson, a 38 year old Paul Scholes, Ryan Giggs and Ashley Young.

Roberto Mancini and Manuel Pellegrini each have league titles.

Roberto Di Matteo has won the Champions League.

Liverpool 13/14 were a win away from a league title with Brendan Rodgers as manager.

It's really not as simple as "top manager + top players". Guardiola couldn't win the Champions League with Bayern, Ancelotti couldn't win the league with Madrid, Wenger never won the CL with that invincible Arsenal team. And so on.
Man U had the best manager in the game and the other teams were not upto the chalange. It's a fact that top players and a top manager will win you titles. All the big clubs have shown that. You can either go out spend the money and do that quick or hope to get lucky and have your team develop into a great team. Man U Chelsea and city don't fancy waiting. Looks like Liverpool and Arsenal do.
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Post by halamadrid2 Sat Aug 20, 2016 7:16 am

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Post by Firenze Sat Aug 20, 2016 7:16 am

really good goal from capoue btw
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Post by Great Leader Sprucenuce Sat Aug 20, 2016 7:20 am

https://twitter.com/search?f=tweets&vertical=default&q=wijnaldum&src=typd

rofl
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Post by Jay29 Sat Aug 20, 2016 7:20 am

Everton 2-1 up now. Barry with the goal.

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Post by Firenze Sat Aug 20, 2016 7:21 am

barry u pos
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Post by rincon Sat Aug 20, 2016 7:21 am

I have Capoue as a starter Proud
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Post by halamadrid2 Sat Aug 20, 2016 7:21 am

Everton need a striker. This Deulofeu ip top experiment is clearly not working
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Post by Nishankly Sat Aug 20, 2016 7:22 am

Even Blackburn rovers are winning ffs Liverpool
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Post by Firenze Sat Aug 20, 2016 7:22 am

not watching the game but hear Tottenham look meh, as they did in GW1

gonna stop pretending they're legit title contenders now lol
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Post by Great Leader Sprucenuce Sat Aug 20, 2016 7:23 am

halamadrid2 wrote:Everton need a striker. This Deulofeu ip top experiment is clearly not working


Just use Lukaku lol.
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Post by Nishankly Sat Aug 20, 2016 7:23 am

Red Star Liverpool ‏@RedStarLvrpool 2m2 minutes ago
We've infected Klopp. Instead of turning into a Klopp team, we've turned him into a Liverpool manager

LMFAOOOOOOOOOOOOO
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Post by Firenze Sat Aug 20, 2016 7:23 am

halamadrid2 wrote:Everton need a striker. This Deulofeu ip top experiment is clearly not working


he looked threatening first game, I don't believe Lukaku is leaving anyway
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Post by Lucifer Sat Aug 20, 2016 7:24 am

If Chelsea won't give me Clean sheet bonus I wonder who will. Watford looking legit though.

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Post by Unique Sat Aug 20, 2016 7:27 am

Just a quick question for all the experts on the forum. If burnley can organise a defence that don't give sturridge origi coutinho firmino and Gini a sniff why can't Liverpool organise a defence to shut out lge 1 fodder.
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Post by ExtremistEnigma Sat Aug 20, 2016 7:28 am

Firenze wrote:lol seeing Unique having a meltdown every time and calling out Klopp when you lose games

he's a top 8 manager in the world lol

he's actually too good for you lads IMO

you do need to invest in defenders but again, you aren't gonna go drop 30+m on one which is the cost of even developing talents in this market

you need to be looking at the likes of Williams etc though, odd you arent

I just hate this blatant Klopp fanboyism ever since he's come to Liverpool. He has proven nothing substantial so far in his career to make him seem bigger than the club.

van Gaal is a much decorated manager than Klopp is and look how he went out of United. Klopp is not immune to any criticism whatsoever, not any more than Rodgers.
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Post by Firenze Sat Aug 20, 2016 7:28 am

lmao Coutinho is absolutely shite today
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