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Post by Casciavit Sun 7 Aug 2016 - 20:26

I hope Juve fans' sake that they don't replace Pogba with a donkey like Matuidi.

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Post by Socur Toxanarosa Sun 7 Aug 2016 - 20:31

sportsczy wrote:-  In terms of brand.... that's a hard one.  Depends where.  Juve is a bigger brand in Latin America and Africa no doubt.  It's a draw in the US.  In Asia, Man U is much bigger.


Nop, at least here in Brazil, United is much bigger, it's not even close. Juventus is not even the biggest Italian brand, Milan has a big fanbase, even Inter is bigger than Juventus around here.
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Post by sportsczy Sun 7 Aug 2016 - 20:37

Spent a lot of time in Argentina. So it depends which South American stars played for the club... more Brazilians played for Milan obviously. But in Argentina, Juventus was huge... Trezeguet was of Argentinian origins. Camoranesi played in Argentina. Sivori obviously.
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Post by Hapless_Hans Sun 7 Aug 2016 - 20:39

Cipul tau si dragostea din tei IMO
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Post by sportsczy Sun 7 Aug 2016 - 20:39

Winter is Coming wrote:I think Pogba rethinking this move Laughing

United have no creativity and will rely on him alone for that. Stay at Juve lad.

Or he's relishing it... they'll make him the creative focus from the midfield.
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Post by S Sun 7 Aug 2016 - 20:44

Juventus is huge in their country. I think thats enough  tbh.
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Post by Vlad the Impaler Sun 7 Aug 2016 - 20:45

Hapless_Hans wrote:Chipul tau si dragostea din tei IMO


Shocked Almost had a heart attack!

O-Zone were actually from Moldavia, but yep, the same language and huge hype in Romania too. (bleahs, stupid songs)

Anyway, if wondering, Romania has Gheorghe Zamfir, something more classic. smoking



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Post by Hapless_Hans Sun 7 Aug 2016 - 20:49

I know all about Zamfir, the pan flute master
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Post by Vlad the Impaler Sun 7 Aug 2016 - 20:54

Hapless_Hans wrote:I know all about Zamfir, the pan flute master


Don't know what to think. hmm You are a snake like Surag. scratch Wikipedia is yet free and I know it.

But, I'll go with you this time. smoking
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Post by Hapless_Hans Sun 7 Aug 2016 - 20:55

ex gf for many years was Romanian
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Post by Sushi Master Sun 7 Aug 2016 - 20:56

Congrats to ManU fans, sorry to Juve fans.

This was a 90% money move, though. You don't go from potential CL finalist team to CL qualifying hopefuls because you "want a new challenge".

If this were true, then Bayern would have been selling top players years ago. If you cannot motivate your players, then there is some other issue you are not seeing. But I am not saying Juve do not motivate Pogba or their players, I'm saying it was totally more a mercenary move than anything else. There's nothing wrong with that either, plus as stated, it's not like ManU are Swansea or something.

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Post by Vlad the Impaler Sun 7 Aug 2016 - 20:57

Hapless_Hans wrote:ex gf for many years was Romanian


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Post by juve_gigi Sun 7 Aug 2016 - 21:00

Congrats to Manchester United and congrats to Firenze for winning the coveted GL belt.

I've been following European football since the 80's. Yes I'm much older than you folks. I was known as "Papa" back in the old forums. This whole one club is bigger than the other nonsense is just that, nonsense. Both clubs have huge history and are bigger clubs than the other in different respects. In Canada there are Juve fans everywhere, but also a lot of ManU fans. We have lots of English pubs out here. I have two good friends, one is a ManU fan, one is a Milanista and I am a Juventino. And we can all sit down and state our case as to who is bigger than the other.

At the end of the day Pogba went to ManU for the money. If you asked 100 people outside of GL 99 of them will tell you this. The ones that think otherwise are either somewhat delusional or have some type of hate going on for Juve. In reality Serie A cannot compete with the EPL money wise. To suggest Juve is not a big club because they can't keep their top players is very narrow minded. The reality is Serie A doesn't have a $5 billion+ tv contract. If we did we could easily afford to keep our biggest stars. The fact that we can challenge the likes of Bayern, Barca and Madrid and actually beat them or be real competitive against them is a true testament to the management of Juventus and Giuseppe Marotta, as he has built a super club on a shoe string budget. If ManU had the same budget as Juve they would be competing for the relegation spots in EPL not the CL spots.

I used to follow Serie A when they were the biggest league in the world with the biggest stars. Platini, Maradona, Van Basten, Maldini, Ronaldo, Zidane, Kaka, etc. I could go on and on. Those were the glory days. We were a much bigger League than the EPL or La Liga. If you look at all the Champions League finals Italy is tied with Spain for most final appearances as of right now with 27, so history tells you Serie A has been a huge league and the best league in the world at some points in its history. But times have changed and today money talks. That's it. It's only because of the money that Serie A is not in the same class anymore. ManU are re-building their team simply by BUYING the players. That's it. I don't see a lot of stars on their team that are from their youth academy or have been with the team for long stretches. Let's see where all this money takes them. It takes more than money to win. Mourinho has to find a "team" and a system that will work for his players. To think he will just walk the league is short sighted. Arsenal, ManCity, Chelsea will give him good competition. Watch out for Antonio Conte. He may surprise you. He turned a 7th place Juve into a powerhouse and an undefeated season in only one year. Don't count out Chelsea. They could surprise and win the League.  

Anyways, good luck to Paul Pogba. The last 4 years have been wonderful to watch. We almost did it 2 years ago and we have a great chance to win the CL this year even without you, so too bad you couldn't stick around to enjoy the ride. Perhaps we will meet again next year in the CL.


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Post by Unique Sun 7 Aug 2016 - 21:01

so its only 89mil
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Post by sportsczy Sun 7 Aug 2016 - 21:04

89 mil pound sterlings without add ons.... so 105 mil euros.
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Post by Vlad the Impaler Sun 7 Aug 2016 - 21:04

juve_gigi wrote:Congrats to Manchester United and congrats to Firenze for winning the coveted GL belt.

I've been following European football since the 80's. Yes I'm much older than you folks. I was known as "Papa" back in the old forums. This whole one club is bigger than the other nonsense is just that, nonsense. Both clubs have huge history and are bigger clubs than the other in different respects. In Canada there are Juve fans everywhere, but also a lot of ManU fans. We have lots of English pubs out here. I have two good friends, one is a ManU fan, one is a Milanista and I am a Juventino. And we can all sit down and state our case as to who is bigger than the other.

At the end of the day Pogba went to ManU for the money. If you asked 100 people outside of GL 99 of them will tell you this. The ones that think otherwise are either somewhat delusional or have some type of hate going on for Juve. In reality Serie A cannot compete with the EPL money wise. To suggest Juve is not a big club because they can't keep their top players is very narrow minded. The reality is Serie A doesn't have a $5 billion+ tv contract. If we did we could easily afford to keep our biggest stars. The fact that we can challenge the likes of Bayern, Barca and Madrid and actually beat them or be real competitive against them is a true testament to the management of Juventus and Giuseppe Marotta, as he has built a super club on a shoe string budget. If ManU had the same budget as Juve they would be competing for the relegation spots in EPL not the CL spots.

I used to follow Serie A when they were the biggest league in the world with the biggest stars. Platini, Maradona, Van Basten, Maldini, Ronaldo, Zidane, Kaka, etc. I could go on and on. Those were the glory days. We were a much bigger League than the EPL or La Liga. If you look at all the Champions League finals Italy is tied with Spain for most final appearances as of right now with 27, so history tells you Serie A has been a huge league and the best league in the world at some points in its history. But times have changed and today money talks. That's it. It's only because of the money that Serie A is not in the same class anymore. ManU are re-building their team simply by BUYING the players. That's it. I don't see a lot of stars on their team that are from their youth academy or have been with the team for long stretches. Let's see where all this money takes them. It takes more than money to win. Mourinho has to find a "team" and a system that will work for his players. To think he will just walk the league is short sighted. Arsenal, ManCity, Chelsea will give him good competition. Watch out for Antonio Conte. He may surprise you. He turned a 7th place Juve into a powerhouse and an undefeated season in only one year. Don't count out Chelsea. They could surprise and win the League.  

Anyways, good luck to Paul Pogba. The last 4 years have been wonderful to watch. We almost did it 2 years ago and we have a great chance to win the CL this year even without you, so too bad you couldn't stick around to enjoy the ride. Perhaps we will meet again next year in the CL.


My fav GK, nice to see you again. Proud

Well said, man! Thumbs up
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Post by S Sun 7 Aug 2016 - 21:07

Unique wrote:so its only 89mil


Only....
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Post by S Sun 7 Aug 2016 - 21:08

When is Firenze going to put his belt on the line ?

Is there a re-match clause ?


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Post by RealGunner Sun 7 Aug 2016 - 21:08

Fee is reported without all the agent fees and commission lol. Smart tactic by United.
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Post by RealGunner Sun 7 Aug 2016 - 21:09

Hapless_Hans wrote:ex gf for many years was Romanian


She changed her nationality after? weird

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Post by Vlad the Impaler Sun 7 Aug 2016 - 21:10

RealGunner wrote:
Hapless_Hans wrote:ex gf for many years was Romanian


She changed her nationality after? weird



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Post by S Sun 7 Aug 2016 - 21:11

We receive above €100M. That's for certain.

Most profitable transfer in football history ever.
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Post by Hapless_Hans Sun 7 Aug 2016 - 21:11

RealGunner wrote:Fee is reported without all the agent fees and commission lol. Smart tactic by United.


The smart thing would have been to not pay so ridiculously much, not spin the PR Laughing
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Post by juve_gigi Sun 7 Aug 2016 - 21:11

Vlad the Impaler wrote:
juve_gigi wrote:Congrats to Manchester United and congrats to Firenze for winning the coveted GL belt.

I've been following European football since the 80's. Yes I'm much older than you folks. I was known as "Papa" back in the old forums. This whole one club is bigger than the other nonsense is just that, nonsense. Both clubs have huge history and are bigger clubs than the other in different respects. In Canada there are Juve fans everywhere, but also a lot of ManU fans. We have lots of English pubs out here. I have two good friends, one is a ManU fan, one is a Milanista and I am a Juventino. And we can all sit down and state our case as to who is bigger than the other.

At the end of the day Pogba went to ManU for the money. If you asked 100 people outside of GL 99 of them will tell you this. The ones that think otherwise are either somewhat delusional or have some type of hate going on for Juve. In reality Serie A cannot compete with the EPL money wise. To suggest Juve is not a big club because they can't keep their top players is very narrow minded. The reality is Serie A doesn't have a $5 billion+ tv contract. If we did we could easily afford to keep our biggest stars. The fact that we can challenge the likes of Bayern, Barca and Madrid and actually beat them or be real competitive against them is a true testament to the management of Juventus and Giuseppe Marotta, as he has built a super club on a shoe string budget. If ManU had the same budget as Juve they would be competing for the relegation spots in EPL not the CL spots.

I used to follow Serie A when they were the biggest league in the world with the biggest stars. Platini, Maradona, Van Basten, Maldini, Ronaldo, Zidane, Kaka, etc. I could go on and on. Those were the glory days. We were a much bigger League than the EPL or La Liga. If you look at all the Champions League finals Italy is tied with Spain for most final appearances as of right now with 27, so history tells you Serie A has been a huge league and the best league in the world at some points in its history. But times have changed and today money talks. That's it. It's only because of the money that Serie A is not in the same class anymore. ManU are re-building their team simply by BUYING the players. That's it. I don't see a lot of stars on their team that are from their youth academy or have been with the team for long stretches. Let's see where all this money takes them. It takes more than money to win. Mourinho has to find a "team" and a system that will work for his players. To think he will just walk the league is short sighted. Arsenal, ManCity, Chelsea will give him good competition. Watch out for Antonio Conte. He may surprise you. He turned a 7th place Juve into a powerhouse and an undefeated season in only one year. Don't count out Chelsea. They could surprise and win the League.  

Anyways, good luck to Paul Pogba. The last 4 years have been wonderful to watch. We almost did it 2 years ago and we have a great chance to win the CL this year even without you, so too bad you couldn't stick around to enjoy the ride. Perhaps we will meet again next year in the CL.


My fav GK, nice to see you again. Proud

Well said, man! Thumbs up


Thanks Vlad!!  Thumbs up
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Post by Unique Sun 7 Aug 2016 - 21:13

S wrote:
Unique wrote:so its only 89mil


Only....
man that's beer money to a rich prem lge club like man u :coffee:
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Post by S Sun 7 Aug 2016 - 21:15

Unique wrote:
S wrote:
Unique wrote:so its only 89mil


Only....
man that's beer money to a rich prem lge club like man u :coffee:


Another heel turn....

People coming out of the closet I see.
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