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Post by Adit Fri Jul 15, 2016 10:15 pm

This guy predicted it

https://www.foreignaffairs.com/articles/2016-05-30/turkeys-next-military-coup
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Post by zizzle Fri Jul 15, 2016 10:18 pm

shit just got real, as if the region needed more instability
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Post by zigra Fri Jul 15, 2016 10:22 pm

Finally. Hope they are successful.
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Post by RealGunner Fri Jul 15, 2016 10:22 pm

Turkey blocks twitter, facebook, youtube, state TV shuts down.
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Post by zizzle Fri Jul 15, 2016 10:27 pm

From reddit

AllergySeason [score hidden] 25 minutes ago*
I am talking to a friend in Istanbul.
He says a military officer told him that the Military Chief of Staff has been kidnapped and they have declared martial law. He saw tanks roaming the streets about an hour ago.
EDIT: It's an attempted military overthrow of the Government.



Even worse, could be the start of a civil war


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Post by Pedram Fri Jul 15, 2016 10:27 pm

Live update

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/07/15/turkey-low-flying-jets-and-gunfire-heard-in-ankara1/
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Post by Firenze Fri Jul 15, 2016 10:57 pm

I don't profess to know too much about the situation there but from stuff I've read Erdogan is a massive POS

is this a good outcome?
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Post by The Demon of Carthage Fri Jul 15, 2016 11:03 pm

What we know so far about the coup:

1. Turkish army says it has taken over in a statement.
2. Government says it's a group from within armed forced and they will fail.
3. Istanbul airport seized.
4. Explosions and gunfire reported.
5. Local tv reporting officials taken hostage.
6. Military deployed.
7. Social media blocked and internet down in Turkey.
8. Soldiers on streets as well as tanks.
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Post by RealGunner Fri Jul 15, 2016 11:03 pm

He has become more of a dictatorship in recent times and already has lost a lot of support from the people. He has been imprisoning those who are a threat to him. Blocking any sort of news which makes him look bad. Tourism has suffered under his rule. His son was discovered forging fake papers to escape. And he has been involved in several corruption cases.

This military coup might reinstate democracy. But it might not. Who knows.

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Post by Hapless_Hans Fri Jul 15, 2016 11:07 pm

I can't help but feel that this may be good news, as absurd as that sounds.
Erdogan has been escalating into an Islamist dictator at an alarming rate in recent years, increasing the power of his office, cracking down on dissent, let's not forget a full-on war against parts of his populace ongoing.

The army has a strong Kemalist republican tradition, I assume it's these forces having decided they've had enough with Erdogan.
Probably still not good news for the Kurds though, they might be *bleep* either way No
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Post by zigra Fri Jul 15, 2016 11:09 pm

Firenze wrote:I don't profess to know too much about the situation there but from stuff I've read Erdogan is a massive POS

is this a good outcome?


Removing Erdogan is good but of course we have to wait what the outcome is.
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Post by Hapless_Hans Fri Jul 15, 2016 11:10 pm

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Post by VivaStPauli Fri Jul 15, 2016 11:21 pm

A lot of my mates are in Ankara atm, hope this goes over without violence.
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Post by The Demon of Carthage Fri Jul 15, 2016 11:24 pm

An interesting read for anyone interested:
http://europe.newsweek.com/will-there-be-coup-against-erdogan-turkey-439181?rm=eu
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Post by Robespierre Fri Jul 15, 2016 11:31 pm

A question ... Turkey was hit from many attacks in last period. it was a suspected cadence.. were they claimed really from ISIS ?
Because otherwise it's the same strategy that took to Greek military junta of 1967–74, when the country was hit from  series of crimes to spread panic and uncertainty, so as to create  the preconditions for a coup ( as it happened. Same was in Italy in that period, but two coups failed.). Strategy of tension.
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Post by Hapless_Hans Fri Jul 15, 2016 11:35 pm

I think the Turkey military is a special case, Robes. Not sure whether such parallels hold.
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Post by Adit Fri Jul 15, 2016 11:38 pm

Pakistan comes close. Their military have pr campaign to make people believe that they are the good guys and all politicians are corrupt. Last week Pakistan military general 's posters have been seen widely in the street making huge panics among the government.

Comes to think of it. Military uprise when there is problem in Kashmir ATM hmm a war between India and good old military seized Pakistan may be imminent.



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Post by Hapless_Hans Fri Jul 15, 2016 11:39 pm

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JUST IN: NBC reporting that Erdogan has requested asylum in Germany


This *bleep* guy :facepalm:
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Post by Robespierre Fri Jul 15, 2016 11:42 pm

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JUST IN: NBC reporting that Erdogan has requested asylum in Germany


This *bleep* guy :facepalm:


" Have you changed idea about the Armenian genocide , Erdy ? "
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Post by RealGunner Fri Jul 15, 2016 11:49 pm

International community silent atm. Turkey militants aren't stupid as they know Egypt got away with it. But will US say anything? will UN?
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Post by McAgger Fri Jul 15, 2016 11:53 pm

Erdogan is a massive POS indeed. Hopefully there's no violence but I definitely feel like this is a good thing if it gets the current regime overthrown.
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Post by Robespierre Fri Jul 15, 2016 11:56 pm

https://www.periscope.tv/redblll06/1ynJOzQAZEOGR



Don't call me James wrote:Erdogan is a massive POS indeed. Hopefully there's no violence but I definitely feel like this is a good thing if it gets the current regime overthrown.

Agreed.


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Post by RealGunner Fri Jul 15, 2016 11:56 pm

Erdogan is asking people to get on the street while he is hiding in some cupboard Laughing
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Post by RealGunner Fri Jul 15, 2016 11:59 pm

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Post by Cruijf Sat Jul 16, 2016 12:03 am

No matter how bad Erdogan is a coup is worse. Very bad news for this to happen to a NATO country. The world is falling apart it seems.
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