Re: The Official WWE Thread - Part 27

by Kaladin Fri May 20, 2016 11:18 pm

Got a feeling the Fatal 4way might steal the show at ER, KO was immense in Payback

by Great Leader Sprucenuce Fri May 20, 2016 11:20 pm

It will be that or the main event, Ambrose and Jericho also has a chance because it's in a cage although it will probably disappoint.

by M99 Sat May 21, 2016 11:18 am

Great Leader Sprucenuce wrote:

A legitimately great segment to end SmackDown, what is this lol.

Good segment but watching these reminded me why I can't stand Roman.

Kicks out of Gallows finisher after a distraction and no sells AJ's multiple chair shots and kills him with one chair shot (:

by Great Leader Sprucenuce Sat May 21, 2016 11:25 am

In fairness the no selling came after they went off the air and he did get Styles Clashed on the chair the Raw before that hmm

My problem with Roman is that we know he's never going to lose, it wouldn't be so bad if there was even an inclination he might lose.

by Onyx Sat May 21, 2016 11:31 am

My problem with Reigns is he belongs on superstars but is pushed as the top guy instead. hmm

by Great Leader Sprucenuce Sat May 21, 2016 11:33 am

No he doesn't lol, drop the haterade. He shouldn't be the no 1 lolwins guy but he's better than most of the roster.

by RealGunner Sat May 21, 2016 11:35 am

Agreed with Mole

Guy is nowhere as bad as WWE have turned him into.

by Onyx Sat May 21, 2016 11:40 am

Better at what exactly? They could push Titus or any other generic powerhouse to do the exact same thing as Reigns. In all honesty Reigns is nothing more than an upper midcarder at best.

by RealGunner Sat May 21, 2016 11:43 am

You have to understand MT.

He is not a bad guy

He is not a good guy

He is THE guy

by Onyx Sat May 21, 2016 11:46 am

Shane pls. I expected better. Next we're going to have New Day come out and read a bedtime story. Wait no, how about they come out and teach everyone how to count to 10? hmm

We recently noted how Shane McMahon had some creative input into top storylines and had been asked his opinion on recent angles. Shane reportedly came up with the idea for the time machine segment with WWE Tag Team Champions The New Day on Monday’s RAW.

– There’s been talk of putting Eva Marie on the main roster with Dana Brooke now that Emma is out of action.

On a related note, Emma’s back surgery was considered to be a worst case scenario. There’s still no official time frame on her return but the injury comes at a bad time as she was being groomed for a push.

by Kaladin Sat May 21, 2016 6:04 pm

Cody Rhodes asks WWE to be released

by Onyx Sat May 21, 2016 7:15 pm

I remember how everyone touted him as a future World champion back in the day. Never really felt he was anything more than a midcarder, however they certainly could have used him in a much better way. In this day and age he's easily a main eventer with how low the standards are. He could have done the cowardly World champion role instead of Rollins last year. Then again so could have Ziggler, Barrett, Sandow or any of the other guys they haven't used properly. He could have won the MITB instead of Sheamus.

If you look at the main event scene, it's more about booking as opposed to talent. The shield have been booked strong in recent years, which is why they're at the top. It's not really about their talent. Midcarders like Barrett, Rhodes, Sandow, Miz, New Day etc are just as good as the shield guys, but the WWE gave up on them after their initial push. The shield were their primary focus unfortunately.

by RealGunner Sat May 21, 2016 7:18 pm

Onyx wrote:I remember how everyone touted him as a future World champion back in the day. Never really felt he was anything more than a midcarder, however they certainly could have used him in a much better way. In this day and age he's easily a main eventer with how low the standards are. He could have done the cowardly World champion role instead of Rollins last year. Then again so could have Ziggler, Barrett, Sandow or any of the other guys they haven't used properly. He could have won the MITB instead of Sheamus.

If you look at the main event scene, it's more about booking as opposed to talent. The shield have been booked strong in recent years, which is why they're at the top. It's not really about their talent. Midcarders like Barrett, Rhodes, Sandow, Miz, New Day etc are just as good as the shield guys, but the WWE gave up on them after their initial push. The shield were their primary focus unfortunately.

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by Great Leader Sprucenuce Sat May 21, 2016 7:18 pm

I thought he was a decent mid carder as Cody Rhodes tbf, but WWE has a load of " decent " mid carders right now and that's not really the isue so i don't even care tbh.

by Great Leader Sprucenuce Sat May 21, 2016 7:20 pm

It's a whole bunch of bollocks anyway lol, only one who is potentially better than Rollins from that list is Barrett and even then it's not an absolute certainty.

by RealGunner Sat May 21, 2016 7:22 pm

Tried to like Cody back in the days but guy is so bland with absolutely no charisma lol.

by Great Leader Sprucenuce Sat May 21, 2016 7:24 pm

Which is strange considering his father is probably the most charismatic wrestler to have ever lived hmm

by RealGunner Sat May 21, 2016 7:28 pm

Nope. That still goes with Rock

by Great Leader Sprucenuce Sat May 21, 2016 7:30 pm

One of them anyway hmm

by Onyx Sat May 21, 2016 7:36 pm

I still think the entire shield fall into the midcard category. Like I said, they're just the chosen ones who are booked strongly. But if you look at them individually skillset wise, they aren't that much greater than the midcarders I mentioned.

None of them talent wise have ever reached the levels of Punk and Bryan, 2 recent legit main eventers.

I could easily see Titus doing the exact role Reigns is doing. I could see Miz doing what Rollins done last year, but at a higher level because he's better on the mic/ has a better character. I think to truly be a top guy, nobody else should be able to replicate you as an entertainer.

by Kaladin Sat May 21, 2016 7:39 pm

Bryan is a midcarder level skillset wise, so many forgettable matches, only thing going for him was the yes movement

by Great Leader Sprucenuce Sat May 21, 2016 7:44 pm

No point arguing with someone who thinks Titus O'Neil is as good as Reigns tbh.

It's quite sad how little credit Reigns is giving for the things he's good at, we all accept there's major issues with him but he's not some jobber scrub who has zero going for him.

Not saying MT either, but in general. I don't even like him that much really but you have to blind to see he does a lot of things well.

Just because he can't cut a babyface promo very well at all, doesn't mean he's a complete scrub in every facet and promos are not the be all and end all.

If it was up to me he wouldn't be an unstoppable juggernaut who never loses clean and to me that would make the main event scene more interesting as it would create a fresher main event scene but that's hardly his fault.

by RealGunner Sat May 21, 2016 7:46 pm

You can even tell Reigns is turning things around. Last RAW he delivered one of his best promos of his career and fans are definitely 70-30 split rather than 100-0 back few months ago

WWE just need to turn him into a tweener. They need to play the fans and break kayfabe by actually making Reigns as disliked as he is and use that to his own advantage to build his character

by Great Leader Sprucenuce Sat May 21, 2016 7:52 pm

Yeah the longer this feud goes on, this less boos he's getting lol.

At the same time AJ still gets cheered too, so it's a win win for WWE.

The best way to get Reigns over with the crowd is to put him in fresh storylines with fresh opponents, i'm convinced part of the reason he got booed so hard was the angle with HHH.

Now i like HHH but that Reigns feud never worked, he wasn't getting booed nowhere this hard before the HHH feud. If you don't believe me go back and look at any Raw before where he was involved in the title picture.

He wasn't liked but he wasn't the most hated man in the arena either Laughing

by RealGunner Sat May 21, 2016 7:54 pm

Thing is when Rollins return, boos will only increase for reigns. Rollins will probably get one of the biggest pop in recent years

by Onyx Sat May 21, 2016 7:56 pm

Bryan can't be replicated imo. You can't just put any old small underdog into the main event and expect him to be super over. If that were the case Evan Bourne, Tyson Kidd, Sin Cara, Kalisto etc would all be super over. The fans loved him for who he was, so there was obviously something about him that was main event worthy skillset wise.

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