Pep Guardiola's adventures in Manchester City

Actually they have spent just as much if not more than City in the last few yrs

CBarca wrote:It's a while back now but I don't understand why people think Sterling won't enjoy Pep's system? If he buys into Pep (which he probably will, especially considering Pep's work with other young players), then I think he'll be with the perfect manager for him. I understand the criticism here is that Sterling lacks a solid footballing brain and isn't technically gifted, but neither is Pedro, and he had the time of his career with Pep. David Villa was certainly technically gifted but most of his work was off the ball--something Sterling can emulate (the same, of course, goes for Pedro).

If Pep can get what he did out of Pedro, he can surely do the same with Sterling, who is a far, far more talented player. He's still very young and has a lot of growing to do yet, and I think having a manager like Pep around will be perfect for Sterling's development.

Pedro was a goalscorer though unlike Sterling.

So if Sterling's not going to score, he's going to need to round up his overall ability imo. I can see him playing a sort of Douglas Costa esque role however.

Pep knew he was going to City when he left Barcelona. The man had already decided Bayern as his next destination in 2011 when he spoke to their management during our Audi Cup. He seem like the one who prepares himself ahead of time.

With Sterling it'll depend on his attitude/lifestyle more then anything else, the way he's dealt with things at Pool and his late night habits won't sit with Pep too well if he doesn't change those. Pep won't hesitate to bench him like Ibra/Gotze.

It's either going to be him or De Bruyne starting imo. Based off of his past work he's always gone with at least 2 goalscorers in his starting lineup. It's clear City need a DM and CM, which then leaves Silva for the advanced midfielder spot.

----------------Weigl
----------Verratti---Silva
--De Bruyne----------Griezmann
---------------Aguero

Ideal lineup.

lol you guys make it seem like Verratti is going to be easy to get Unless Pep agrees to go to PSG after City then possible.

Pep's a weird one--he's only managed two GOAT squads in the top flight, so "fish in a barrel" and everything, but then again, he's done remarkably well considering how much he tinkers & risks and still gets major results. I think his Man City tenure will be a new, but not completely unfamiliar, challenge.

Yeah Pep does tinker with a squad and have a signature style, but as some people have noted, he also adapts his tactics at least somewhat to the personnel at hand. (Again: the sample size is too small to really be certain. With City we'll finally start to see for sure.) I suspect that KDB will excel, Kompany & Sterling will thrive, and the club will also sign the sort of players that rival fans will gnash their teeth about. (Think he'll poach anyone from previous clubs? Thiago? Busquets? Neuer even?) Like many others, I'll be interested to see what becomes of David Silva.

PL manager list next season - for lulz:
Arsenal - Wenger
Leicester - Klopp
Man Utd - Mou
Chelsea - Rodgers
Liverpool - Harry Redknapp

Chumlum wrote:Pep's a weird one--he's only managed two GOAT squads in the top flight, so "fish in a barrel" and everything, but then again, he's done remarkably well considering how much he tinkers & risks and still gets major results. I think his Man City tenure will be a new, but not completely unfamiliar, challenge.

Yeah Pep does tinker with a squad and have a signature style, but as some people have noted, he also adapts his tactics at least somewhat to the personnel at hand. (Again: the sample size is too small to really be certain. With City we'll finally start to see for sure.) I suspect that KDB will excel, Kompany & Sterling will thrive, and the club will also sign the sort of players that rival fans will gnash their teeth about. (Think he'll poach anyone from previous clubs? Thiago? Busquets? Neuer even?) Like many others, I'll be interested to see what becomes of David Silva.

PL manager list next season - for lulz:
Arsenal - Wenger
Leicester - Klopp
Man Utd - Mou
Chelsea - Rodgers
Liverpool - Harry Redknapp

and where did claudio ranieri go

So Pep is getting criticized for going for the "easy" option? are you kidding me? didnt Mourinho and Ancelotti do the same exact thing their whole career? No one said shit when Carlo choose the stacked rich Bayern instead of going back to Serie A so lets no be hypocritical here.

And while we're at lets not act like City is an elite club. When was the last time they made the CL semis? yea they never did, and let's not talk about the squad of flops and has beens.

Unique wrote:

Chumlum wrote:PL manager list next season - for lulz:
Arsenal - Wenger
Leicester - Klopp
Man Utd - Mou
Chelsea - Rodgers
Liverpool - Harry Redknapp

and where did claudio ranieri go

Real Madrid.

LeSwagg James wrote:

jibers wrote:

LeSwagg James wrote:
Mou proved himself at Porto and Ancelotti with Reggiana and Parma.

Pep hasn't done anything like that tbh. He got the Barca job with the GOAT there, then went to beat up on Bundesliga scrubs in a one team league.

Right, getting Barcelona B promoted is nothing

Ancelotti got handed the best Juve team that reached 3 cl finals in a row and flopped hard with them

That proven manager

Getting promoted to Segunda isn't a big deal mate

Carlo got sacked after finishing second with Juve, could have been worse tbh.

It wasn't Pep who got Barca B promoted to the Segunda anyway.

Verratti is closer to Bayern than to city

Onyx wrote:

CBarca wrote:It's a while back now but I don't understand why people think Sterling won't enjoy Pep's system? If he buys into Pep (which he probably will, especially considering Pep's work with other young players), then I think he'll be with the perfect manager for him. I understand the criticism here is that Sterling lacks a solid footballing brain and isn't technically gifted, but neither is Pedro, and he had the time of his career with Pep. David Villa was certainly technically gifted but most of his work was off the ball--something Sterling can emulate (the same, of course, goes for Pedro).

If Pep can get what he did out of Pedro, he can surely do the same with Sterling, who is a far, far more talented player. He's still very young and has a lot of growing to do yet, and I think having a manager like Pep around will be perfect for Sterling's development.

Pedro was a goalscorer though unlike Sterling.

So if Sterling's not going to score, he's going to need to round up his overall ability imo. I can see him playing a sort of Douglas Costa esque role however.

Pedro was a nobody before Pep. Things can change. Pedro is no longer a goalscorer

Sterling offers ability (or at least potential ability) that Pedro never had beyond goalscoring, and one can usually become a better goalscorer. He needs to work on it, but he's still like, 20. He'll get there. He managed to get goals before too, so it's not like he can't.

Pep signing for the most stacked team in the league, color me surprised

Next is PSG or whoever is dominating Serie A at the time when he leaves the premier league.

Wow.

Totally unexpected. I thought he was going to United and build a team from scratch.

Took the easy way, again.

Don't call me James wrote:Pep signing for the most stacked team in the league, color me surprised

Next is PSG or whoever is dominating Serie A at the time when he leaves the premier league.

He won't go to Serie A. He won't have the budget to buy the players he wants, and he won't get the wages he wants. It's possible only if he fails at City

So he's being criticised for taking the best job available?

How many people would give up the opportunity to be the CEO of a fortune 500 company in favour of being the CEO of some shitty payday loan business?

He's certainly not being criticized . People just shit on him because reasons .

Taking the easy way , is no reasonable argument . In this very thread alone there's everything anyone might need against that , and it just goes on.. It's certainly something not ever used against anyone else other than Guardiola .

In all my life i never saw this kind of elementary school downplay against a coach . I've read and heard the most flawed and ridiculous arguments against coaches , for anything you can possibly imagine , but this ludicrous 'lol but can he do it with his eyes closed' thing literally exceeds me . It's not just here btw , saw it yesterday in CL's official page on FB as well .

It was actually the comment with the most likes even , lmao . Sometimes i really fail to see how some people think. Like , here's a pic which shows you just how great this coach has managed during his time in the CL so far and that , if anything , he would be a total idiot if he actually accepted anything less than what he did already , after all this success and work .

random genius on the internets wrote:Manage a team like Norwich and achieve success mate, it's the players that have won all the trophies at Barca and Bayern

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Literally people are that dense and fail to see through this , it's not even guys in GL trying to bait people . That's what they actually think , i had my doubts yesterday but not anymore. They fully believe the bs they say .

It's sad that some seem to think that all Guardiola had to do at Barcelona and Bayern was turn up, stick eleven players on the pitch and sit back. As if he didn't do any coaching with the players he had to make them better, didn't dedicate hours on the training pitch to teaching his system, and didn't keep his players motivated. All he did was say "all right lads, just pass the ball around a bit and you'll be fine", apparently.

The ignorance is astonishing and for some reason it only applies to Guardiola and no other manager. The teams he's managed were stacked with talent but to get those players performing at such a high level consistently is surely indicative of his skills as a manager.

If it was the players explain why Barca needed to go out and buy Neymar and Suarez while looking like nowhere near the same team post Pep under 3 different managers.

But people are clearly that thick and I'm just about done trying to explain sense to idiots.

Same with players, it's pure banter people think like that.


Nah I don't want a top tier job gimme a shit job so I can prove to unemployed dave from Essex that I have what it takes.

Tomwin Lannister wrote:Same with players, it's pure banter people think like that.


Nah I don't want a top tier job gimme a shit job so I can prove to unemployed dave from Essex that I have what it takes.

The days when people with 43k and 23k posts on internet giving others life lessons

stay safe brahs x

Onyx wrote:It's either going to be him or De Bruyne starting imo. Based off of his past work he's always gone with at least 2 goalscorers in his starting lineup. It's clear City need a DM and CM, which then leaves Silva for the advanced midfielder spot.

----------------Weigl
----------Verratti---Silva
--De Bruyne----------Griezmann
---------------Aguero

Ideal lineup.

De Bruyne and Griezman can't drible. No way he would field that team.

danyjr wrote:The days when people with 43k and 23k posts on internet giving others life lessons

stay safe brahs x

Sadly posting on GL over the course of the last 4 and a half years has definitely had a horrible impact on my life, it's a miracle I don't weigh 600 pounds and live in my mums basement.

How was my statement incorrect? How did I contradict myself?

Posting on a football forum talking trash about posting on a football forum

You are one hell of an ad for pro-abortion

Let's take yet another example of what kind of people use this 'argument' against Guardiola ( other than the merely ignorant ). Could it be these are people with a certain agenda ? Could it also be anyone who uses the same arguments has a certain agenda as well ?

DailyMail , 20 January 2016 , Y.Toure agent Dimitri Seluk on Pep ,

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-3407944/Yaya-Toure-future-plunged-doubt-agent-reveals-Manchester-City-star-listen-offer-summer.html

The Bayern Munich boss, who is favourite to take over from Manuel Pellegrini at the end of the season after revealing he wants to work in the Premier League, sold Toure when the pair were at Barcelona.

Seluk said: 'Pep is a great coach. But he has won the title at Barcelona and Bayern Munich.
'The truth is that my grandfather would win the title with Barcelona and Bayern Munich because they are big clubs with great players.

'I'd like to see Pep take a club that is eighth or ninth and make them champions.'

But he's a great coach , right. Kinda like Chad's "He's a great coach , but still overrated". Surely i believe he believes that , when even his grandfather could do the same apparently.

Surely no personal agenda involved .

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Let's see what else Toure's agent reportedly said , fresh news today . Many sources about it , Sun claim being the main source , make your own conclusions :

http://www.skysports.com/football/news/11679/10152773/yaya-toures-agent-predicts-he-will-leave-manchester-city-in-the-summer

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-3427859/Pep-Guardiola-s-arrival-Manchester-City-mark-Yaya-Toure-s-departure-following-pair-s-fall-Barcelona.html

http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/sport/football/transfernews/6901908/Manchester-City-transfer-news-Yaya-Toure-will-leaving-Etihad-in-the-summerbecause-of-Pep-Guardiola.html

Seluk told SunSport: “I think Yaya will leave the club. But before leaving I hope he will win again the League and all the cups.

“It’s not a question of whether Pep likes him or not. It’s life, you know.

“Pep can call Yaya and speak to him to let him know ‘I’m with you’ or ‘I am not with you’.”

Seluk accused Guardiola of lacking “balls” to stay on at Barcelona when they failed to win La Liga in 2012.

He said: “In my opinion, everyone who has balls must stay in a team not only when they are successful but when things are difficult. (.....)

“Barcelona win because it’s like a big family and their structure is an example for everybody.

“So it’s not a question of persons. Luis Enrique has done the same as Guardiola. It’s not possible to say forever it’s the team of Guardiola.”

Toure has 12 months left on his £240,000 per week contract, meaning he will want up to £12m if City wish to move him on.

And Seluk began the exit negotiations with a clear dig at City technical director Txiki Beguiristain and chief executive Ferran Soriano.

He added: “Yaya opened the door for the people who worked for Barcelona. Yaya went to a place where many changes were necessary. He was not afraid. But now everybody from Barca comes to City.

“Yaya won every trophy in England without Guardiola. Will Guardiola win without Yaya?”

Great Leader Sprucenuce wrote:If it was the players explain why Barca needed to go out and buy Neymar and Suarez while looking like nowhere near the same team post Pep under 3 different managers.

But people are clearly that thick and I'm just about done trying to explain sense to idiots.

Good argument. And there's the "before" argument. Where was Barça before Pep? Titleless and finishing 3rd. He comes around, and with the same core of players that were already there (Iniesta, Xavi, Messi, Pedro, Eto'o, Henry, Toure, Busquets, Sylvinho, Abidal, Valdès...) and some important but not core additions, wins everything.