The problems of Real Madrid's midfield

We need a DM like Busquets

Mr Nick09 wrote:We need a DM like Busquets

You need structure before throwing any names around. usquets would make little difference if he is always facing 3 players by himself

i would argue that the right players can also improve the structure you want to have. As in if you play kroos as mediocentro you are not exactly helping yourself...

Mr Nick09 wrote:i would argue that the right players can also improve the structure you want to have. As in if you play kroos as mediocentro you are not exactly helping yourself...

Kroos did fine when he had Isco and Hames either side defending as well. I agree a better #6 would help but there is a far bigger problem. Busquets struggled a lot the season before when the Barcelona defensive structure suffered and people said he was in a rut.

Kroos and Modric double pivote dealt with most problems before Bale got back.

there are like 2-3 problems as far as shape for us
1-CR not playing his wing and being subpar in defending work
2-isco/james not being CMs but playing deep
3-Kroos not knowing how to defend and being a lousy transition defender

kroos-modric did fine for a few months and then crumbled, obviously we are talking about the top 5% in football here, and slight adjustment make a diff to me.

Mr Nick09 wrote:We need a DM like Busquets

We could do with 2 Busquetses.

Mr Nick09 wrote:there are like 2-3 problems as far as shape for us
1-CR not playing his wing and being subpar in defending work
2-isco/james not being CMs but playing deep
3-Kroos not knowing how to defend and being a lousy transition defender

kroos-modric did fine for a few months and then crumbled, obviously we are talking about the top 5% in football here, and slight adjustment make a diff to me.

They crumbled because of the shape around them. When Carlo played the 442 when Bale was injured, Isco and Hames went back there to defend and the lines where compressed so they defended better, so much so that even Messi was completely shut out.

I agree Kroos can't defend and lacks the capacity to, but getting Busquets or Weigl in there or even getting prime Kean and Viera together won't do much if they are constantly facing 4 to 5 players by themselves.

If Madrid had kept Di Maria and sold Ronaldo instead and had a real holder/tempo controller ala Busquets or maybe a Mascherano or Matuidi or something they'd be set.


That would be pretty epic, IMO. I still think regardless of how they set up their midfield right now they will win most games but still have major issues as long as Ronaldo is still around. I really think his knees are shot and since he is no longer as dynamic it makes the whole team weaker because he's so selfish.

modric-kroos can handle themselves, if zidane can get the team to defend as a unit, and keep the shape, watch kroos dominate offensively and defensively .

What midfield?

Mr Nick09 wrote:We need a DM like Busquets

Please, he's far too young for Madrid. Madrid will never have the patience to stand by a developing player. He will struggle to adapt for a season and then be forever relegated to the bench as a new, shinier toy comes along.

BarrileteCosmico wrote:

Mr Nick09 wrote:We need a DM like Busquets

Please, he's far too young for Madrid. Madrid will never have the patience to stand by a developing player. He will struggle to adapt for a season and then be forever relegated to the bench as a new, shinier toy comes along.

Barcelona have a system, BVB have s system, at Madrid he would be a sitting duck like Illaramendi.

jibers wrote:

BarrileteCosmico wrote:

Mr Nick09 wrote:We need a DM like Busquets

Please, he's far too young for Madrid. Madrid will never have the patience to stand by a developing player. He will struggle to adapt for a season and then be forever relegated to the bench as a new, shinier toy comes along.

Barcelona have a system, BVB have s system, at Madrid he would be a sitting duck like Illaramendi.

THIS

Madrid's midfield this season has to be one of the biggest jokes I've ever seen.

Spoiler:

FFS

No player will be able to fix that midfield. It's up to the coach to implement a proper system.

i actually want a dm in the line up- namely casemiro, who's job it will be to kick scratch bite fight for every ball. but i wouldn't mind another (not a 50 million signing), to compete with him, and a better system with everyone contributing to the defensive effort. busquets on this team? we don't hold the ball as much, and not everyone marks, he'll be tormented all day

Casciavit wrote:Madrid's midfield this season has to be one of the biggest jokes I've ever seen.

Spoiler:

FFS

No player will be able to fix that midfield. It's up to the coach to implement a proper system.

Wtf is James doing in that last gif

Toulalan is the best fix for RM's midfield. He's got the right amount of brain and the brawn. Kroos is a much better attacker than defender. It's obvious. Everytime RM try to shut down the opposition at the midfield they always get run through because they don't field someone who can crunch the ball away from the opposition at midfield. I'm thinking Ramos or Pepe can do it but Ramos is kinda shaky when he tries to dribble forward. Zidane should try Pepe at DM if RM fail to obtain a DM.

titosantill wrote:

jibers wrote:

BarrileteCosmico wrote: Please, he's far too young for Madrid. Madrid will never have the patience to stand by a developing player. He will struggle to adapt for a season and then be forever relegated to the bench as a new, shinier toy comes along.

Barcelona have a system, BVB have s system, at Madrid he would be a sitting duck like Illaramendi.

THIS

I strongly refute that argument because Illarramendi got his chances and he crumbled like a deck of card