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Post by McLewis Fri Dec 18, 2015 12:59 pm

Yeah he's an attractive option. Sure, he's absolute batshit crazy, but he'll get these players battle-ready and light a fire under their asses, something Rudi just can't seem to do right now. Tactically, I'm a little worried about his penchant for 3-man defenses. I don't think we have the players for that.

Lippi has done next to nothing since leaving Guangzhou Evegrande last year. Not sure that's really a bad thing as he's probably fresh (considering his age I suppose), but I was never a fan of him tactically or as a man manager. He represents the old school way of doing things and I don't think that gells with this relatively young Roma team. Despite him winning everything there is to win in the game, I just don't think he's a good fit for this team, but could get behind him for the remainder of the season as at the very least, he'd bring some stability.

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Post by Winter is Coming Fri Dec 18, 2015 1:04 pm

That's one thing with Bielsa he'll keep the players on their toes. In the CL he's at least met with Madrid a few times (his time at Bilbao), maybe a little beneficial for the encounter in coming months.

Lippi to me will be like having another LVG Laughing He's still living mainly on his Juventus success.
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Post by Robespierre Fri Dec 18, 2015 1:09 pm

I don't know even if Lippi would be a good choice for the Romanista environment because of his huge Juventinità
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Post by Kaladin Fri Dec 18, 2015 1:10 pm

Please take Lippi, don't want him anywhere near Milan
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Post by breva Fri Dec 18, 2015 2:58 pm

I am perplexed at some of the comments about Lippi.  The 2010 WC team was an anomaly.  Lippi made a fundamental error, he used the players from 2006 who were no longer able to sustain Lippi's style of play.

Lippi's approach is very modern.  His teams are required to press constantly especially after losing the ball.  When the ball is lost in the opposing teams half, the goal is to regain it in the opposing team's half.  While he will often change to a defensive shell when his team is in the lead, he changes back to hard pressing attacking when the opposing team is convinced that the Lippi team is satisfied with the lead and they are often caught with a high line.  Lippi will change formation and tactics several times in game.

He was doing the instant ball recovery thing with Juventus before Barcelona adopted that tactic.

It is true that you need particularly fit players and attackers that will defend for Lippi's system to work and I am not sure that Roma is equipped personnel-wise for that type of play.
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Post by McLewis Sat Dec 19, 2015 2:11 am

Rumblings that Spaletti appears to be ready to take over immediately on the 22nd. Rudi appears to be out regardless of the result against Genoa.
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Post by sportsczy Sat Dec 19, 2015 2:51 am

Rudi doesn't change... and it has been his downfall. Stubborn to a fault. Like Luis Enrique who also failed at lesser clubs, he needs elite talent to make his system effective since he can impose his will with top talent. But when you're dealing with teams who have talent deficiencies, the stubbornness gets exposed.

He's a good coach. I hope he lucks out and gets a job at a good club. Wouldn't mind him at Marseille tbh, although i think he ends up at Lyon.
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Post by McLewis Sat Dec 19, 2015 9:34 am

Well I don't think most coaches change their philosophy. Not something I expected Rudi to do. I think what I and many fans expected of him was to react, adapt and evolve when the going got tough. To find solutions for the problems with his squad. This shouldn't require him to change his philosophy, but this means he needs to be able to think critically and out of the box. His lack of a plan B made sure that didn't happen.

Current news I'm reading now says former defender Christian Panucci might be brought in to act as caretaker boss until we can get Antonio Conte. Typical Roman media. Going in 42029347 directions at once.
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Post by Robespierre Sat Dec 19, 2015 1:26 pm

According Di Marzio , Roma has contacted Jose Mourinho .
But he refused.
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Post by McLewis Sun Dec 20, 2015 4:18 am

His Inter ties clearly at play there. Most Romanisti would never accept him anyway because of his attitude and those Inter ties, same way they'd never accept Conte, Lippi or Capello because of their Juve ties.

Capello himself has ruled out a return, which is welcome news.
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Post by McLewis Thu Dec 24, 2015 12:07 am

So we are sticking with Rudi for now...you can't get anymore indecisive than that. Either support him or tell him to kick rocks ffs.

Guess the plan is to keep him and hold out for a big name in the summer....y'know, because Roma always attract the biggest names in coaching.....

Awful.
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Post by Kaladin Sun Jan 10, 2016 10:54 pm

[Di Marzio]AS Roma manager Rudi Garcia is at high risk of getting sacked, one between Spalletti, Bielsa and Sampaoli
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Post by Katy Perry Sun Jan 10, 2016 11:04 pm

I've read they're interested in Mazzarri too.

De Sanctis
Manolas Rudiger Castan
Florenzi Radja DDR Pjanic Digne
Gervinho Dzeko

hmm
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Post by Robespierre Sun Jan 10, 2016 11:13 pm

^ Pedullà said it about Mazzarri.
Anyway he is close to be sack . there are confirms too
tbh the SpeZial One deserves it, the 2nd time against Milan was really embarassing
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Post by McLewis Sun Jan 10, 2016 11:45 pm

I have absolutely no preference on a replacement at this point. I just want the rot to stop.

I just hope Pallotta's anger is real this time. We were here before and they ended up backing Rudi again.

Reports say we'll know tomorrow what will happen so I'm not gonna say anything else about it until then.

I just hope this is well and truly the final straw for Pallotta. Anyone of those 4 can come in and steady the ship....taking us forward permanently is an entire different matter.


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Post by M99 Sun Jan 10, 2016 11:46 pm

Hope they get Biesla.
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Post by McLewis Mon Jan 11, 2016 12:11 am

Wouldn't mind him for following reasons:

- His tactics will be fresh
- He'll kick ass in the locker room
- He's temporary.
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Post by BarrileteCosmico Mon Jan 11, 2016 12:33 am

M99 wrote:Hope they get Biesla.
I might jizz in my pants if this happens

Can't imagine Roma would be willing to meet his salary and control requests, though, especially the later
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Post by McLewis Mon Jan 11, 2016 3:42 pm

From Football Italia and Roma Press:

SportMediaset reports that Pallotta has decided to relieve Garcia of his duties, and will inform directors Walter Sabatini and Frederic Massara of his decision in a conference call this afternoon.

However, the move will not be officially announced today, with CEO Italo Zanzi and Coach Garcia in Zurich for the Ballon d’Or ceremony.

The American President is believed to have rejected the idea of a caretaker Coach, so Luciano Spalletti is in pole position to take over the Olimpico bench.

I think this is appropriate now:

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Post by farfan Mon Jan 11, 2016 3:43 pm

To think that it started with a historic 10 games winning streak . Laughing
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Post by Hapless_Hans Mon Jan 11, 2016 3:46 pm

McLewis wrote:From Football Italia and Roma Press:

SportMediaset reports that Pallotta has decided to relieve Garcia of his duties, and will inform directors Walter Sabatini and Frederic Massara of his decision in a conference call this afternoon.

However, the move will not be officially announced today, with CEO Italo Zanzi and Coach Garcia in Zurich for the Ballon d’Or ceremony.

The American President is believed to have rejected the idea of a caretaker Coach, so Luciano Spalletti is in pole position to take over the Olimpico bench.



1. Why are Roma CEO and coach at the Ballon D'or gala?

2. Obama dictating whether there's a interim coach at Roma or not :facepalm:
Disgusting government overrach Mad Mad
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Post by Cruijf Mon Jan 11, 2016 4:06 pm

ffs hans rofl

Happy Roma's getting Spalletti tbh, means we can't get him Laughing
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Post by McLewis Mon Jan 11, 2016 4:23 pm

Spalletti's the only one the fans want at this point because he's the only coach to win us actual silverware since the 2001 scudetto. Plus he knows how to use players like Florenzi, Totti and Nainggolan effectively. I'm just not sure how he'd use Pjanic though, which is worrying.
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Post by Robespierre Mon Jan 11, 2016 10:15 pm

BREAKING NEWS DI MARZIO -  Roma is negotiating now with Spalletti.
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Post by BarrileteCosmico Mon Jan 11, 2016 10:23 pm

Ffs I got all excited over Bielsa rumors

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Post by Kaladin Mon Jan 11, 2016 10:40 pm

I don't think Spalletti is that bad of an appointment as some might think, when he was at Roma he made the best out of a very bad team, i mean, they had players like Antunes, Cicinho, Cassetti, Brighi, Tavano, Okaka, Sartor, Kharja, etc and still went toe to toe with Madrid, Lyon and Chelsea. All while playing some great football.

However, I don't think he would be able to turn the season around
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