Manchester United 2015/2016 Premier League Season (+ CC & FA Cup)

We won't win the title without a consistent goal scorer. 2 PL goals and it's nearly December, Wayne Rooney

Another 0-0 to add the collection of 0-0's this season.

The fraud has turned us into the dullest team in the league.

Only one shot on target today, don't be fooled by all those half chances. WH had the better chances and should have won the game.

We looked impotent as usual. Tempo was alright, but dithered through out the game. We looked clueless when we got into box bar that one opportunity that Memphis(well played) delivered to Martial.

Mata- worst player on the pitch, followed closely by Mcnair.

MOTM for Utd- Martial. Such a class talent surrounded by crap.

The league is piss poor this season yet we're throwing it away due to our style of play and dumb decisions made by the manager in the summer. Yh, great decision to get rid of Chicha and Wilson leaving our attacking options threadbare, both weren't shining under him, but both would have served us better up front than frigging Fellaini. smh.

/rant

I have been so far sitting on the fence regarding mata, Still kind of had that feeling there was a quality player somewhere there, but this display today i think breaks it for me.

As much rooney is the problem of this team, i think mata too is not that far away, if we are talking about being shit is concerned.
And with the likes of felliani and young, theres this justification you can give that theres no continuity for them and its hard to come into the team and straight away perform after sitting out for long periods, but with Juan even that is not applicable. The man has started almost all the games this season and yet this is the level he can come up with, i mean its..

We need a clear out next summer transfer window. Startng with Rooney, Fellaini, and  Mata , a lot of these guys should be shown their way out.
As much great the lad is as a person, wish his game was even half as good as that.

Anyway as for the match well, glad Varela got a look in today. He looked 10x  McNair and even Darmian (of late). Hope he will get  a decent look in from hereon. Should be our 2nd choice RB now that valencia is not there.
Martial yes, the only player worth mentioning.

And McNair truly is awful. I will prefer Blackett anyday to this lad actually. At least blackett or any other defender for that matter when they play, they will at least know their position on the pitch to start with. But this kid sadly thinks he is an attacking midfielder or something. His positioning is one of the weakest i have seen. LvG was spot on last game when he criticized him in the post match presser.

Genuinely concerned and scared about the proposition of not able to go through to the next round in CL. How are we going to go to Germany and get a win with this bunch of players. If Herrera is back may be theres a chance, but with mata and the likes well, Europa league i think it is for the latter half of the season.

Picking up on your last paragraph, I agree. We're out of the CL. I have zero confidence in Van Gaal setting up the team to win away from home.

It will be 0-0 or a Woilfsburg win. I hope to F we win, but nah, can't see it.

That performance was refreshingly good. Obviously theres a big dearth in quality in that squad, but inspite of that, really impressed by them kids's ability to withstand pressure and not just fold in after their goal. Negated their initial pressing and we had 6 teenagers/youngsters in the side.
More of it please. Mephis is having a good game, finally. And wish Martial would have put that in the back of the net.

Losing to a championship quality side. That 2nd goal was fcking digraceful defending.

Glory wrote:That performance was refreshingly good. Obviously theres a big dearth in quality in that squad, but inspite of that, really impressed by them kids's ability to withstand pressure and not just fold in after their goal. Negated their initial pressing and we had 6 teenagers/youngsters in the side.
More of it please. Mephis is having a good game, finally. And wish Martial would have put that in the back of the net.

Can't tell if your trolling to be honest, I seriously hope you are!! :O

No I wasnt. ^ Although i cant say the same thing about the 2nd half display which was outright poor. Considering the amount of injuries and the kind of team which started, that 1st half was one of the better performances of late.

There was more intent and slightly more direct football on display. But the presence of mata and to an extent fellaini once again brought back the crap sideways passing philosophy thingy. The likes of depay ( who yesterday for a change was tracking back and was actually helping a struggling CBJ when we were losing possession), lingard, martial and then pereira in the 2nd half and even Varela, these youngsters were at least trying to play directly.
But obviously you can only anticipate so much quality from youngsters and u19 players who rarely get game time at the highest level.
And the thing that impressed me most like i said was how despite of conceding an early goal and facing serious pressing these kids didnt fluster in the 1st half.

But then sadly things took the turn for the worse in the 2nd half. Memphis who was having a really good game suddenly turned shite. May be that niggle he received had an impact. And martial was hit and miss too throughout.
Pereira by the way looked neat after he came on. The kid needs to get more minutes (which surely he will get now btw thanks to the state of our team right now)

Theres a considerable difference when rooney is not in the team, its evident. Likewise mata should also be out.
Young would have made a difference yesterday i really felt. Dont know what he has done wrong lately that other scrubs havent.

Mata is awful. He takes like 5 minutes to get to the ball then just dwells on it. Annoying to watch. Fellaini is just awful. The Rooney of the mf. He's a big for nothing. Never wins the second balls, loses physical battles and has the first touch of a rapist. This squad is worse than anything SAF has since 1992.

Manchester United team vs Stoke:

De Gea,
Young, Jones, Smalling, Blind,
Carrick, Fellaini,
Mata, Herrera, Memphis,
Martial

No Rooney- Yes!

Pleased to see Herrera start.

Why no Schneiderlin though?

Wanna see a good positive performance and win. A scrappy dull 1-0 win won't do it for me, neither a draw or loss(obviously).

LVG has 2 games left (from what I believe) to throw the shackles off these players and go for it. His job is on the line. Dropping Rooney is a positive start, albeit too late..

Cmon United.

Herrera

Save us ffs

We haven't touched the ball. You can tell all the players are nervous...

Depay

Memphis is so poor.

We have been diabolical though, can't string 3 passes together. No fight I this team at all. Game over.

It's also game over for LVG. No way he survives this probable defeat.

Nothing to add.

Copy and paste what's been said the past few months.

Woody, if ur not such a spineless bottler, do what's urgently needed.

9 games in a row now we've failed to score in the 1st half.

But hey, I'm actually going to start celebrating shots on target since I dont think we'll ever score again.

So it's 2-1 to us. GTFI...well played Mata.

where would we be without Martial what a talent

On a serious note, we played well. The game plan is there we just don't have the quality to pull it off RED. Luke Shaw getting injured damaged us massively. He was our only FB that could cross!

Never rated Bastian that highly, he is a guy that does well in a structured team with talent but he is old now and he never plays forward passes, always slows down our play. Blind steps up and breaks 2 lines of the opposition with his passing ffs! It seems like Carrick is the only of our players that can do that

We need a killer in the goal we need to get another winger that beat players one vs one. Imagine that and Martial through the middle. Martial has been a steal. Shades of Kluivert for me, although he is not as good in the aerial.

RED give him time. I enjoyed our game today and vs CHelsea. We created chances, if we had quality we would have scored at least 4 today.

18 months is more than enough. I've yet to see any progression within the team other than pointless possession. Our defence is a  collective joke (thank God for DDG), our attack is even worse. I'll give him credit for not ignoring the MF that SAF neglected and for not being afraid in having faith for playing youth.

2 performances whom some Utd fans have deemed as 'good', let's be real, they were both v struggling teams in the league, and in both games they were both giving us trouble. a 0-0 where we were great for like 20 mins and today where it was down to a fantastic talent in Martial.

But that's neither here nor there, LVG is going nowhere for the foreseeable future- I've got to grudgingly grin and bear it and get behind the team. i'm hoping we can scrape a good run of wins, hopefully todays win can be the catalyst to gain some much needed confidence boost. NewC(a) next, so good chance we can make it 2 for 2.

RED wrote:18 months is more than enough. I've yet to see any progression within the team other than pointless possession. Our defence is a  collective joke (thank God for DDG), our attack is even worse. I'll give him credit for not ignoring the MF that SAF neglected and for not being afraid in having faith for playing youth.

2 performances whom some Utd fans have deemed as 'good', let's be real, they were both v struggling teams in the league, and in both games they were both giving us trouble. a 0-0 where we were great for like 20 mins and today where it was down to a fantastic talent in Martial.

But that's neither here nor there, LVG is going nowhere for the foreseeable future- I've got to grudgingly grin and bear it and get behind the team. i'm hoping we can scrape a good run of wins, hopefully todays win can be the catalyst to gain some much needed confidence boost. NewC(a) next, so good chance we can make it 2 for 2.

Interesting, so when we attacked in the last 2 games those were pointless? Your hate is blinding you. We don't have the players. In this day and age we are not top of the pecking order, we need a good scouting team in place which we never had. There is a lot that our club is lacking because we depended on one person for our scouting. SAF trusted one person, LVG is not a magician ffs.

RED wrote:18 months is more than enough. I've yet to see any progression within the team other than pointless possession. Our defence is a  collective joke (thank God for DDG), our attack is even worse. I'll give him credit for not ignoring the MF that SAF neglected and for not being afraid in having faith for playing youth.

2 performances whom some Utd fans have deemed as 'good', let's be real, they were both v struggling teams in the league, and in both games they were both giving us trouble. a 0-0 where we were great for like 20 mins and today where it was down to a fantastic talent in Martial.

But that's neither here nor there, LVG is going nowhere for the foreseeable future- I've got to grudgingly grin and bear it and get behind the team. i'm hoping we can scrape a good run of wins, hopefully todays win can be the catalyst to gain some much needed confidence boost. NewC(a) next, so good chance we can make it 2 for 2.

chaski match we would have won 3-1 or something on another day. It wasnt just great football for 20 minutes. We were genuinely creating chances that day. Twice we hit the post and Courtois pulled off a worldie to deny Ander and then there was a rooni clear cut chance. Chels were lucky to leave OT with a point. Theres a reason suddenly all the storm that was around lvg until that math subsided to an extent even for temporarily after that match. We were genuinely unlucky.

And the SwanC match, true its against managerless team at home, but its a team that had beaten us thrice on the trot. In each of those matches, we had played good football and were winning only for them to nick it. So its not easy from a psychological pov of the players. And even more so since we are in a bad shape.
We were good in the 2nd half yesterday.

jibers wrote:

RED wrote:18 months is more than enough. I've yet to see any progression within the team other than pointless possession. Our defence is a  collective joke (thank God for DDG), our attack is even worse. I'll give him credit for not ignoring the MF that SAF neglected and for not being afraid in having faith for playing youth.

2 performances whom some Utd fans have deemed as 'good', let's be real, they were both v struggling teams in the league, and in both games they were both giving us trouble. a 0-0 where we were great for like 20 mins and today where it was down to a fantastic talent in Martial.

But that's neither here nor there, LVG is going nowhere for the foreseeable future- I've got to grudgingly grin and bear it and get behind the team. i'm hoping we can scrape a good run of wins, hopefully todays win can be the catalyst to gain some much needed confidence boost. NewC(a) next, so good chance we can make it 2 for 2.

Interesting, so when we attacked in the last 2 games those were pointless? Your hate is blinding you. We don't have the players. In this day and age we are not top of the pecking order, we need a good scouting team in place which we never had. There is a lot that our club is lacking because we depended on one person for our scouting. SAF trusted one person, LVG is not a magician ffs.

Yh we attacked (if you can call it that) but the main objective of the team under LVG is to keep the ball. And let's not beat around the bush, we attacked against 2 teams who are atrocious atm, and then we only managed a handful of opportunities before reverting to type and being fortunate that we didn't get punished from the chances they created themselves.

And we may not have the players, but these aren't Sunderland or Villa level players, yet we find ourselves in their company when it comes to the form guide. My point is, we should be doing much better. look at Leicester ffs. Spent less than a 10th of what we did yet play the football with the gusto, bravado and freedom we can only dream of under LVG.

RED wrote:

jibers wrote:

RED wrote:18 months is more than enough. I've yet to see any progression within the team other than pointless possession. Our defence is a  collective joke (thank God for DDG), our attack is even worse. I'll give him credit for not ignoring the MF that SAF neglected and for not being afraid in having faith for playing youth.

2 performances whom some Utd fans have deemed as 'good', let's be real, they were both v struggling teams in the league, and in both games they were both giving us trouble. a 0-0 where we were great for like 20 mins and today where it was down to a fantastic talent in Martial.

But that's neither here nor there, LVG is going nowhere for the foreseeable future- I've got to grudgingly grin and bear it and get behind the team. i'm hoping we can scrape a good run of wins, hopefully todays win can be the catalyst to gain some much needed confidence boost. NewC(a) next, so good chance we can make it 2 for 2.

Interesting, so when we attacked in the last 2 games those were pointless? Your hate is blinding you. We don't have the players. In this day and age we are not top of the pecking order, we need a good scouting team in place which we never had. There is a lot that our club is lacking because we depended on one person for our scouting. SAF trusted one person, LVG is not a magician ffs.

Yh we attacked (if you can call it that) but the main objective of the team under LVG is to keep the ball. And let's not beat around the bush, we attacked against 2 teams who are atrocious atm, and then we only managed a handful of opportunities before reverting to type and being fortunate that we didn't get punished from the chances they created themselves.

And we may not have the players, but these aren't Sunderland or Villa level players, yet we find ourselves in their company when it comes to the form guide. My point is, we should be doing much better. look at Leicester ffs. Spent less than a 10th of what we did yet play the football with the gusto, bravado and freedom we can only dream of under LVG.

Now you are typig like some typical British football fan that doesn't have a clue. Leicester can play the way they play because they are a small club. There is a reason that big teams generally don't play that way, because they take the initiative. Look at what happened to them once teams tightened up, they have noone that create. Teams park the bus against us. Before we had Beckham who could spot a cricket in a hayfield with his crosses and then we had CR, then we had a super finisher in the form of RVP. We have none of these things.

The position play there, or at least parts of it. And yes, we did attack, we were getting into dangerous areas. Mate I'm not sure what else you want. Bar the finishing touch we created chances. Obviously you have an agenda here and can't see reason so let's leave it at that.

jibers wrote:

RED wrote:

jibers wrote:

Interesting, so when we attacked in the last 2 games those were pointless? Your hate is blinding you. We don't have the players. In this day and age we are not top of the pecking order, we need a good scouting team in place which we never had. There is a lot that our club is lacking because we depended on one person for our scouting. SAF trusted one person, LVG is not a magician ffs.

Yh we attacked (if you can call it that) but the main objective of the team under LVG is to keep the ball. And let's not beat around the bush, we attacked against 2 teams who are atrocious atm, and then we only managed a handful of opportunities before reverting to type and being fortunate that we didn't get punished from the chances they created themselves.

And we may not have the players, but these aren't Sunderland or Villa level players, yet we find ourselves in their company when it comes to the form guide. My point is, we should be doing much better. look at Leicester ffs. Spent less than a 10th of what we did yet play the football with the gusto, bravado and freedom we can only dream of under LVG.

Now you are typig like some typical British football fan that doesn't have a clue. Leicester can play the way they play because they are a small club. There is a reason that big teams generally don't play that way, because they take the initiative. Look at what happened to them once teams tightened up, they have noone that create. Teams park the bus against us. Before we had Beckham who could spot a cricket in a hayfield with his crosses and then we had CR, then we had a super finisher in the form of RVP. We have none of these things.

The position play there, or at least parts of it. And yes, we did attack, we were getting into dangerous areas. Mate I'm not sure what else you want. Bar the finishing touch we created chances. Obviously you have an agenda here and can't see reason so let's leave it at that.

I'm sure fatigue is largely playing a part in why leicester have dropped points in the festive fixtures. they've been blitzing teams with pace from the start of the season(home and away), whether it be simple counter attacking tactics or otherwise, other teams haven't had an answer to it for half a season and counting.

And to touch on your second part of the bolded text, teams park the bus against us not because we pose a threat, it's because in doing so they nullify us completely. we're so easy to play against in this rigid system of ours. Oppo teams sit deep knowing we struggle to break them down, hit us on the counter- BOOM....so simple, yet effective. LVG hasn't got the answer to break down bus parking teams unless it's throwing on Fellaini as plan B and hoping for the best.

And also Real Madrid deploy a similar tactic to Leicester in the big games. They're renowned for being one of the best counter attacking teams in world football. It's not about taking initiative, it's about what works best for you at your disposal. It's obvious our players are not suited to playing possession football and LVG has had 3 transfer windows to rectify it and buy players best suited for it.
It didn't have to be world class marquee signings that we tend to chase to make a statement, just good technical players with speed. Ironically enough we have one in Herrerra but he remains shunned by him up until recently.

We're getting into dangerous areas but look clueless when it finally matters ie creating goal scoring opportunities. It's why we're only ahead of S'land in goal scoring chances in the league and have had about 9 goalless draws in the season so far(piss poor).

I admit the last 2 home matches have been an improvement on the previous matches, but given the state of the oppos, and whether the changes were down to LVG changing things due to the pressure he was in, I'm hesitant in being all giddy. He's a stubborn man so...

Didn't celebrate the winner, didn't care.

I just want LVG to gtfo. Has sucked every fibre of enjoyment I get from watching United.

Pure unadulterated sh*t




Other than calling his mate Rooney a current top player, he's pretty much spot on.

score 3 goals....but can't defend to save our lives now.

just keep poking ball back out instead of clearing the lines