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Post by Harmonica Mon Jul 13, 2015 2:37 pm

Best Year of Football ever played.

Messi 14-15

For Argentina

World Cup runner-up, Golden Ball
Copa America runner-up, MVP

For Barcelona

Spanish Cup champion, best player
Spanish League champion, best player
Champions League champion, best player

Some numbers

Treble winning Barcelona 14-15 (League+UCL) Messi had

most games 51 (45 Neymar)
most goals 53 (32 Neymar)
most assists (wide) 29 (20 Suarez)
most dribbles 267 (131 Neymar)
most chance's created 131 (76 Neymar)
most through balls 48 (11 Iniesta)
most passes 3173 (2820 Busquets)

League + CL Messi had

most games 51 (48 Kroos)
most goals (excl. pen) 48 (45 Cronaldo)
most assists (wide) 29 (23 Fabregas)
most dribbles 267 (232 Hazard)
most chance's created 131 (116 Hazard)
most through balls 48 (23 Silva)

- 74 official games, 66 goals, 39 assists.
- First ever forward to player every league and CL game.
- Only one with 4 official MoM in WC14 (Robben 3) and CA15 ( Vidal 3)

Not only great team achievements, but individually dominating football the whole year in every competition. A unique performance.

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Post by Harmonica Sat Jul 18, 2015 4:57 pm

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Post by ahmad25 Sat Jul 18, 2015 7:10 pm

not sure if messi or obama Very Happy
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Post by Myesyats Sat Jul 18, 2015 7:14 pm

LMAO
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Post by Harmonica Mon Jul 20, 2015 5:31 pm

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Added national team for more complete view.

Messi dribbled 243 players to score 458 goals, or 0,53 players per goal.
Maradona dribbled 50 players to score 195 goals, or 0,26 players per goal.

Shocking difference. Shocked
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Post by Valkyrja Mon Jul 20, 2015 5:33 pm

How many World Cups did Maradona win ?
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Post by Rebaño Sagrado Mon Jul 20, 2015 5:34 pm

Valkyrja wrote:How many World Cups did Maradona win ?
one
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Post by Valkyrja Mon Jul 20, 2015 5:45 pm

Rebaño Sagrado wrote:
Valkyrja wrote:How many World Cups did Maradona win ?
one


How many World Cups has Messi won ?
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Post by jibers Mon Jul 20, 2015 5:49 pm

Valkyrja wrote:
Rebaño Sagrado wrote:
Valkyrja wrote:How many World Cups did Maradona win ?
one


How many World Cups has Messi won ?


one phantom WC.
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Post by Rebaño Sagrado Mon Jul 20, 2015 5:52 pm

Valkyrja wrote:
Rebaño Sagrado wrote:
Valkyrja wrote:How many World Cups did Maradona win ?
one


How many World Cups has Messi won ?
zero
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Post by Harmonica Mon Jul 20, 2015 5:53 pm

Added Ronaldo.

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Messi dribbled 243 players to score 458 goals, or 0,53 players per goal.
Ronaldo dribbled 140 players to score 414 goals, or 0,31 players per goal.
Maradona dribbled 50 players to score 195 goals, or 0,26 players per goal.

Shocking difference.


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Post by Great Leader Sprucenuce Mon Jul 20, 2015 5:53 pm

How many covers of FIFA has Maradona been on though?
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Post by Myesyats Mon Jul 20, 2015 6:08 pm

This is getting tiresome lol. The never ending who is better discussions
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Post by jibers Mon Jul 20, 2015 6:18 pm

linetty wrote:This is getting tiresome lol. The never ending who is better discussions


I agree, the question should be why does Messi continually flop for Argentina?
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Post by Curtinho Mon Jul 20, 2015 6:33 pm

What's a pre-assisted goal?
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Post by ahmad25 Mon Jul 20, 2015 6:37 pm

Messi played good. he had one bad game and it was against Chile

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Post by Harmonica Mon Jul 20, 2015 6:45 pm

ahmad25 wrote:Messi played good. he had one bad game and it was against Chile

messi in copa 2015
He was selected MVP, there's nothing more a player can do, than to be the best player of tournament. Game against Chile wasn't bad, he created the best chance of the game and scored the most important penalty in SO.
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Post by ahmad25 Mon Jul 20, 2015 6:46 pm

His highlights of 5 games would be the season highlight for any other player including CR Cool
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Post by ahmad25 Mon Jul 20, 2015 6:51 pm

Harmonica wrote:
ahmad25 wrote:Messi played good. he had one bad game and it was against Chile

messi in copa 2015
He was selected MVP, there's nothing more a player can do, than to be the best player of tournament. Game against Chile wasn't bad, he created the best chance of the game and scored the most important penalty in SO.
Against Chile he was walking and made me angry sometimes. I mean even his fanboys became upset. But probably he was very tired.long season and again he had to play games every 3 day
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Post by jibers Mon Jul 20, 2015 6:57 pm

ahmad25 wrote:Messi played good. he had one bad game and it was against Chile

messi in copa 2015




So flopped in WC final and Copa final. He is the ultimate NT choker. Dat GOAT.
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Post by Gil Mon Jul 20, 2015 7:03 pm

Amazing how Higuain got so much criticism for his WC final miss while Messi's has been swept under the rug. El Pibe de Oro wouldn't have bottled it.
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Post by Myesyats Mon Jul 20, 2015 7:06 pm

jibers wrote:
linetty wrote:This is getting tiresome lol. The never ending who is better discussions


I agree, the question should be why does Messi continually flop for Argentina?

Messi didn't flop at CA. He set up an open net for Higgy in the 90th min at 0-0 and perfectly executed his penal in the penalty shoot out. I feel like there's being asked too much of Messi.
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Post by jibers Mon Jul 20, 2015 7:11 pm

linetty wrote:
jibers wrote:
linetty wrote:This is getting tiresome lol. The never ending who is better discussions


I agree, the question should be why does Messi continually flop for Argentina?

Messi didn't flop at CA. He set up an open net for Higgy in the 90th min at 0-0 and perfectly executed his penal in the penalty shoot out. I feel like there's being asked too much of Messi.


Scoring a one on one goal against Neuer like he does week in week in week out at Barcelona is not too much too ask. I agree though that he is no Maradona so people can't expect him to carry the NT when he doesn't have the ball all the time.
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Post by Harmonica Mon Jul 20, 2015 7:12 pm

Gil wrote:Amazing how Higuain got so much criticism for his WC final miss while Messi's has been swept under the rug. El Pibe de Oro wouldn't have bottled it.
Three of Higuain's big chance's in finals stemmed from Messi, in WC-final distributed the ball for Lavezzi, pressured German players to mistake, and dribbled 2 players from midfield in CA-final.

Higuain is one of the biggest chokers of our time. In span of one year:

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Failed 1on1 against Dnpro which would have put Napoli in road to CL from EL, and penalty against Lazio which would put Napoli to CL from Serie-A.

And that's the exact reason why Real Madrid got rid of him, he's not confident enough to play at that level.
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Post by ahmad25 Mon Jul 20, 2015 7:15 pm

jibers wrote:
ahmad25 wrote:Messi played good. he had one bad game and it was against Chile

messi in copa 2015




So flopped in WC final and Copa final. He is the ultimate NT choker. Dat GOAT.
ok flopping in 1 game is called ultimate NT choker in your book. he still created best chance of the game while choking. Keep in mind that flopping Messi is still top 10 player in the world :coffee:
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Post by Harmonica Mon Jul 20, 2015 7:17 pm

ahmad25 wrote:
Harmonica wrote:
ahmad25 wrote:Messi played good. he had one bad game and it was against Chile

messi in copa 2015
He was selected MVP, there's nothing more a player can do, than to be the best player of tournament. Game against Chile wasn't bad, he created the best chance of the game and scored the most important penalty in SO.
Against Chile he was walking and made me angry sometimes. I mean even his fanboys became upset. But probably he was very tired.long season and again he had to play games every 3 day
Walking has nothing to do with quality, Messi was Argentina's best player by clear margin in the final. http://www.whoscored.com/Matches/971932/LiveStatistics/International-Copa-America-2015-Chile-Argentina
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