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Post by Pedram Thu 30 Jun 2016 - 11:41

She's going to pick Tim Kaine to appeal to the center and some independents.

Wrong move imo, she already has centrist voters locked up because she's a centrist herself, what she needs is increased supports from the left and Bernie supporters.

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Post by VendettaRed07 Thu 30 Jun 2016 - 17:26

Blue Barrett wrote:
VendettaRed07 wrote:Warren is going to be Veep. And Joe Kennedy will replace her in her senate seat

and the political dynasty will continue with President Kennedy in 2024. smoking

No, Joe Kennedy won't Laughing Not when Charlie Baker will select a Republican to replace her. And even if that wasn't the case, I'm sorry, but there's no way Hillary goes against her donors and selects Warren for veep.

http://www.politico.com/story/2016/06/elizabeth-warren-wall-street-vice-president-224489
Massachusetts law is different, there'll be a special election 120 days after she leaves to fill out the term.

And I don't buy it. Hillary will do what she wants. She wouldn't have hugged Warren this close if she didn't plan on picking her. She's the only one who has been a vocal attack dog on Trump, who actually seems to want the job. Tim Kaine has been silent this entire campaign and doesn't add anything to the ticket. Plus his views on abortion and other things really are not going to help her going forward.

Also, she'll likely take the same route that Bill took in 92 picking a VP. Instead of picking someone to differentiate himself from, he doubled down on a strength and picked another young, southern centrist democrat. If Hillary wins the white women demographic this election is over before it started
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Post by Blue Barrett Thu 30 Jun 2016 - 20:11

VendettaRed07 wrote:
Blue Barrett wrote:
VendettaRed07 wrote:Warren is going to be Veep. And Joe Kennedy will replace her in her senate seat

and the political dynasty will continue with President Kennedy in 2024. smoking

No, Joe Kennedy won't Laughing Not when Charlie Baker will select a Republican to replace her. And even if that wasn't the case, I'm sorry, but there's no way Hillary goes against her donors and selects Warren for veep.

http://www.politico.com/story/2016/06/elizabeth-warren-wall-street-vice-president-224489
Massachusetts law is different, there'll be a special election 120 days after she leaves to fill out the term.

And I don't buy it. Hillary will do what she wants. She wouldn't have hugged Warren this close if she didn't plan on picking her. She's the only one who has been a vocal attack dog on Trump, who actually seems to want the job. Tim Kaine has been silent this entire campaign and doesn't add anything to the ticket. Plus his views on abortion and other things really are not going to help her going forward.

Also, she'll likely take the same route that Bill took in 92 picking a VP. Instead of picking someone to differentiate himself from, he doubled down on a strength and picked another young, southern centrist democrat. If Hillary wins the white women demographic this election is over before it started

Certainly don't think she should go with Kaine but wait....you DON'T think Hillary will be controlled by her donors? Laughing Something that has been the story of most of her solo political career? Laughing They may not demand a lot but she does whatever they do demand. Don't kid yourself Laughing Who's going to sponsor her 2020 re-election bid if she decides to burn them now? Lol wake up.

Besides she's still raising money NOW. Can't have them close their purses in July out of anger. Her whole campaign will crumble. I'd be shocked if she picked Warren. But we'll see.
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Post by Blue Barrett Thu 30 Jun 2016 - 20:29

Chris Christie is being vetted for VP. This guy wants to put Christie on the ticket rofl OH GOD rofl
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Post by VendettaRed07 Thu 30 Jun 2016 - 20:31

Hillary is no different than Obama/Bill. Obama took donations from wallstreet and passed the largest financial reform bill since the 40s with Dodd Frank. And despite passing it, got more donations his second term. So no, I don't think Hillary will be scarred out of picking Warren because of empty threats from some rando donors.
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Post by Blue Barrett Thu 30 Jun 2016 - 20:40

Dodd Frank isn't even that strict fam Laughing I mean, it was better than nothing but come on Laughing

Oh well, time will tell.
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Post by BarrileteCosmico Thu 30 Jun 2016 - 21:16

It's because DF has not been implemented, in spite of being passed.

Nate Silver calls Hillary winning with an 80% chance
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Post by Blue Barrett Thu 30 Jun 2016 - 21:23

BarrileteCosmico wrote:It's because DF has not been implemented, in spite of being passed.

Nate Silver calls Hillary winning with an 80% chance

I just hope they keep their feet on Trump's neck. No complacency at all. They can't afford complacency.
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Post by Guest Wed 6 Jul 2016 - 0:25

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Democratic nominee. Cool

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Post by BarrileteCosmico Wed 6 Jul 2016 - 3:13

Might want to watch that FBI address again, it was definitely a "good news delivered the worst possible way" statement



Parts of that are definitely making it into attack ads
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Post by Guest Wed 6 Jul 2016 - 7:01

Well he can put it in attack ads all he wants. The truth of the matter is that anybody paying attention to politics already knows she's crooked. Trump telling people what they already know won't change anything.

She is corrupt, and I say that as her biggest supporter on here. I don't really like hillary as much as she is simply the best choice we were given. If Biden ran I would have voted for him.

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Post by Blue Barrett Wed 6 Jul 2016 - 7:23

Everyone knows Hillary will lie like any politician to save her ass Laughing
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Post by Blue Barrett Wed 6 Jul 2016 - 8:50

Sanders using his leverage to pull the DNC more towards the left. Good job, Bernie!

http://www.bloomberg.com/politics/articles/2016-07-02/wall-street-takes-a-hit-in-democratic-party-s-platform-draft
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Post by Blue Barrett Thu 7 Jul 2016 - 14:53

Hillary proposed free college for students from households that earn less than $125k a year. I think that's the final thing. Sanders will endorse her now. He has been able to achieve a lot even without winning the nomination. You have to give him a lot of credit.
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Post by CBarca Sat 9 Jul 2016 - 15:33

Lol. That will never happen.

I mean, free uni here never will, even though I wanted Sanders
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Post by Blue Barrett Sat 9 Jul 2016 - 16:09

Technically, it's more realistic than Sanders' original plan. Sanders wanted tuition for everyone from top to bottom, which when you consider it, doesn't make sense in some cases because someone whose dad earns $500k a year or millions of dollars a year or is even a billionaire doesn't need free tuition.

If I'm not mistaken, there's a cap she's planning to put on tax breaks for the rich that will generate $100bn a year, which would comfortably pay for this. Sanders' original plan would have cost $75bn a year. So Hillary's plan will comfortably cover for any margin of error.

Also, it'll apparently start with households earning $85k annually and increase by $10k every year until 2021.

I think it's a sound plan.
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Post by Guest Mon 11 Jul 2016 - 4:57

The thing is, when school is made free, what happens to the rest of us who have student loans?

All this will do is piss off everybody not in the ~17-ish.

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