Re: The World Cup of injured stars

by terrance511 Sat Jun 07, 2014 12:56 pm

im calm on this

new stars will step up.

it's wc.

by RealGunner Sat Jun 07, 2014 1:11 pm

terrance511 wrote:im calm on this

new stars will step up.

it's wc.

+1

by BarcaLearning Sat Jun 07, 2014 1:16 pm

Loool this is getting ridiculous, the amount of stars and top players for various reasons we wont get to see, such a shame Sad

Ibra, Alaba etc. I wish they were in bigger nations so that w can always see them in the big tournaments!

Reus is a huge miss Sad

by donttreadonred Sat Jun 07, 2014 1:32 pm

I believe this is the most recent list of players confirmed OUT of the WC due to injury:
Reus
Ribery
Falcao
Thiago
Valdes
Walcott
Gundogan
V.D Vaart
El Shaarawy
Benteke
Rossi
Montolivo
Strootman

Shocked

That's not even including the "doubts" around players like Suarez, Ronaldo, Aguero, etc.

All joking aside, this may well be remembered as the World Cup of injured stars, but I'm not convinced it's a negative for the tournament. When you remove some of the super-stars from the competition, it could create more parity and yield a far more open - and therefore, entertaining - tournament. As terrance511 said, this is an opportunity for new stars to step up. That has the potential to be far more exciting than the same old big star versus big star or traditional power versus traditional power match-up.

by Tomwin Lannister Sat Jun 07, 2014 2:45 pm

Art Morte wrote:Ideally there would be a longer off-season from club football, but we know it's not going to happen. Not all of those who are out are out due to fatigue-related injuries, though.

Tomwin Lannister wrote:Add me to that list

Sprained my brain 4 years ago, never been right since.

Fixed.

The World Cup of injured stars - Page 2 Ill_sm10

by Art Morte Sat Jun 07, 2014 3:01 pm

by Tomwin Lannister Sat Jun 07, 2014 3:01 pm

by RealGunner Sat Jun 07, 2014 3:38 pm

Sneijder having problems in training apparently. Physios treating him as we speak

by BarrileteCosmico Sat Jun 07, 2014 3:53 pm

M99 wrote:
BarrileteCosmico wrote:Ronaldo - might not make the first match/matches
Ribery - out
Messi - got injured 4 times this season
Aguero - still carrying injury, doubtful for the first match
Falcao - out
Suarez - might not make the first couple of matches
Diego Costa - might not make the first couple of matches
Gomez - out
Rossi - deemed too unfit

Walcott
Reus
Strootman
Montolivo
Montes
Oviedo
Navas
Gundogan
Bender
Mandanda
Saborio
El Shaarawy
Jay Rodriguez
Badstuber
Papadopolous
Van Der Vaart
Van Der Wiel
Benteke
Ronaldo (struggling with injuries, missed both friendlies. Likely to miss Germany match)

I think you are stretching the meaning of stars in some of those but good list Thumbs up

by rwo power Sat Jun 07, 2014 3:55 pm

donttreadonred wrote:I believe this is the most recent list of players confirmed OUT of the WC due to injury:

Don't forget Holger Badstuber. Before his injury, he was a starter for Germany.

by BarrileteCosmico Sat Jun 07, 2014 3:56 pm

dostoevsky wrote:If they quite literally miss the World Cup I'm more than happy to include them in the injured list. Unless Ronaldo is facing amputation though he's not missing the World Cup.

eh the world cup is the sports most prestigious title and comes once every 4 years, I'm sure many players will want to play even if they're job completely fit. In any case a player could be in the squad because they expect him to recover later.

by rwo power Sat Jun 07, 2014 3:58 pm

BarrileteCosmico wrote: I think you are stretching the meaning of stars in some of those but good list

Well, let's say then "players who would have made an impact in their NTs and would have made the line-ups better and thus certainly are missed."

by The Franchise Sat Jun 07, 2014 5:32 pm

As already said, just too many games played for these guys and too much fatigue accumulation leading to body parts wearing down which leads to overcompensating in other body parts and anywhere along this line, it leads to injury.

Noone gives a crap obvious, money is only thing that matters and running the players into the ground for the sake of it is just fine.

I read today, Neymar has already played almost 50 games for his NT. He turned 22 in Feb.

Pele played 92 games, total. 14 year NT career.

by M99 Sat Jun 07, 2014 9:16 pm

https://imgur.com/a/zUAMk

by Zealous Sat Jun 07, 2014 9:18 pm

Portugal have declared Ronaldo fit and he is now back in normal training.

Pepe is still recovering though.

by sportsczy Sat Jun 07, 2014 9:39 pm

38 of the 47 appearances for Neymar were friendlies though... really meaningless. He's only played 8 official games for Brazil NT. 42 out of the 92 games for Pele were competition games; 50 of them were friendlies.

So you're truly comparing 42 to 9 at this point. In the 42 games, Pele scored 43 goals. Neymar has scored 6 in his 9 games.

by BarrileteCosmico Sat Jun 07, 2014 9:42 pm

Thats because Brazil have not had to qualify for this WC because they are hosts so in every FIFA date they just played friendlies.

by sportsczy Sat Jun 07, 2014 9:54 pm

Whatever the case, you can't compare friendlies to official comps... It's night and day. You can compare stats friendlies v friendlies if you want since those totals are pretty close now lol.

Edit: The WC winners got an auto-bid for the next one until 2014. This is the first time that a WC champ had to go through qualis. Pele won 3 WCs and Brazil didn't have WCQs for the 3 following WCs. They just didn't play that many games in a year back in those days as a result. It was usually 4-5 games total per calendar year and 8-10 during WC years or something like that. Also, WCs involved far less teams = less games. Just a different era.

by The Franchise Sat Jun 07, 2014 11:05 pm

I am comparing games played, the players run in them, the plays try in them, the players accumulate fatigue in them.

Thats the long and short of it.

by messixaviesta Sat Jun 07, 2014 11:48 pm

The Franchise wrote:As already said, just too many games played for these guys and too much fatigue accumulation leading to body parts wearing down which leads to overcompensating in other body parts and anywhere along this line, it leads to injury.

Noone gives a crap obvious, money is only thing that matters and running the players into the ground for the sake of it is just fine.

I read today, Neymar has already played almost 50 games for his NT. He turned 22 in Feb.

Pele played 92 games, total. 14 year NT career.

Yes dani. It's just so bad and sad.

Is this the world cup that's going to miss greater number of top players through injury than any other world cup in recent memory?

by The Franchise Sat Jun 07, 2014 11:56 pm

I really cant remember, 4 years ago seems like yesterday and a lifetime ago all at once Laughing

Cant remember absentees from other WC's.

by M99 Sun Jun 08, 2014 8:49 am

No World Cup in my memory had so many injuries, From 2010 I remember

Ballack
Westerman (sub)
Adler
Nani
Rooney (not 100 %)
Miccoli (was snubbed by Lippi any way)

2010 had more controversial snubs. Benzema, Ronaldinho, Pato, Marcelo, Nasri, Cassano, Rossi, Balotelli, Zanneti, Cambiasso etc.

by Zealous Sun Jun 08, 2014 1:16 pm

The Franchise wrote:I am comparing games played, the players run in them, the plays try in them, the players accumulate fatigue in them.

Thats the long and short of it.

Not to mention all those air miles travelling to far away lands.

by RealGunner Sun Jun 08, 2014 4:26 pm

Good article on injuries

http://www.soccerissue.com/2014/06/07/a-stage-without-actors/

by rwo power Sun Jun 08, 2014 4:35 pm

On the other hand, players get annoyed when they are not playing every game, so maybe there needs to be some re-thinking with the players themselves.

by RealGunner Sun Jun 08, 2014 9:25 pm

According to early reports, France's Mathieu Debuchy has fractured his tibia & is on crutches thanks to first half injury

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