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Post by Albiceleste Mon 26 Aug 2013, 00:46

di maria is fine with rotation, his WC spot is locked down anyway

he will probably play whenever isco or bale dont

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Post by Mr Nick09 Mon 26 Aug 2013, 01:11

Great Leader Sprucenuce wrote:Whether he is or isn't is not really irrelevant.

At the end of the day Bale coming = Di Maria to the bench.

So he's still getting replaced lol.
Isco is not his replacement lol

whether we sign Bale or not, di Maria is not an automatic starter anymore.
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Post by Onyx Mon 26 Aug 2013, 01:19

Di Maria shouldn't be starting this year anyway due to his poor form last year. Isco's pretty much taken his spot.

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Post by Kuru Mon 26 Aug 2013, 22:31

Looks like Ozil is off to another team after the move he pulled today after being substituted.

I don't know why Carlo is clashing with so many heads at the same time, Casillas, Ozil, forcing Ronaldo to play CF (not that it is a bad thing at all), and possible clashes with Bale arrival. It's good that he's trying to improve the team, but it's probably better if he tried to improve one problem at a time.
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Post by sportsczy Mon 26 Aug 2013, 23:01

CR7 is playing his usual position.  Only thing he doesn't do is drop so low in the midfield anymore.  But other than that, he's doing the same things.  Just a little off right now... it'll come around.

Lopez deserves to start.  He has done nothing to lose his job and Carlo is absolutely right in keeping him in his spot.  My problem last year was never Lopez over Iker.. it was Adan of Iker.  That was bs.  This one, i understand.

Ozil...  the dude needs an attitude adjustment.  Not sure what's going on there.
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Post by urbaNRoots Mon 26 Aug 2013, 23:02

What exactly did Özil do when he was substituted?
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Post by Kaladin Mon 26 Aug 2013, 23:03

What did Ozil do today?
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Post by Mr Nick09 Mon 26 Aug 2013, 23:03

he went straight to the locker room after he got off. he needs to sort himself out tbh.

It might actually be good for Carlo to tackle all the egos right now to put them in line.
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Post by Onyx Mon 26 Aug 2013, 23:05

He chucked his wrist band thing to the ground and looked upset. However he's human and with all the controversy surrounding him he can't be blamed.

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Post by Zealous Mon 26 Aug 2013, 23:09

He was back on the bench 15 minutes later lmao. Maybe he just wanted to take a shower early, but I guess at Madrid non dramatic reasons get thrown out the window.
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Post by Mr Nick09 Mon 26 Aug 2013, 23:09

he cant be blamed for asking indecent money? for threatening to leave? or acting like a petulant child? u must be joking lol
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Post by Mr Nick09 Mon 26 Aug 2013, 23:10

Zealous wrote:He was back on the bench 15 minutes later lmao. Maybe he just wanted to take a shower early, but I guess at Madrid non dramatic reasons get thrown out the window.
ah that's good then, i want those guys to stick together and to work it out. running away solves nothing.
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Post by Zealous Mon 26 Aug 2013, 23:13

Mr Nick09 wrote:
Zealous wrote:He was back on the bench 15 minutes later lmao. Maybe he just wanted to take a shower early, but I guess at Madrid non dramatic reasons get thrown out the window.
ah that's good then, i want those guys to stick together and to work it out. running away solves nothing.
Seriously when Di Maria was being subbed off Ozil was sitting the bench wearing a white polo looking chill lol
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Post by sportsczy Mon 26 Aug 2013, 23:15

I think he went to the locker room to blow off steam without having cameras staring at him... it's not usual at all to take a shower while the game is going on lol. In fact, it's extremely unusual.
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Post by Zealous Mon 26 Aug 2013, 23:17

I don't agree with subbing Ozil off tbh. I mean it's not like the sub improved the team anyway.
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Post by sportsczy Mon 26 Aug 2013, 23:20

He was slacking off on D in the second half Z... Granada were getting back in the game. Carlo took out his worst defensive midfielder and Marcelo because we were becoming vulnerable.

It had nothing to do with him personally. It was just time to get more defensive with a 1-0 lead and 30 mins to go. Di Maria, Modric and Isco are all better defenders and have better work rate than him.
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Post by Onyx Mon 26 Aug 2013, 23:21

Ozil apparently earns €5m a year and going to €7m with an extension doesn't sound too bad.

In terms of leaving, well I'm sure everyone is worried about their place with Bale possibly arriving.

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Post by Helmer Mon 26 Aug 2013, 23:22

I just wish that Özil should have a fruitful season before the world cup. So I hope the manager sorts out the situation and makes him give his best for RM

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Post by alexander mahone Mon 26 Aug 2013, 23:28

It's twice already he's been substituted while actually playing well, in both Betis & Granada games he created the most chances, still not enough for  Ancelotti for not taking him off. Felt like Ancelotti made it really hard for him to win the competition of minutes with other players. Offensively just as good as Isco if not a bit better in both games but Ancelotti kept Isco on instead of Ozil because he's defensively better. Also playing (much) better than Benzema & Ronaldo, but Ancelotti kept both on instead of Ozil because they're supposedly a better scorer. Ozil will never win this competition unless he hit some crazy form soon enough because doing just well will never be enough.

The funny thing is those substitutions weren't even necessary nor we played better (or more balanced as it's intended to) after the substitution.
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Post by sportsczy Mon 26 Aug 2013, 23:33

Carlo doesn't accept midfielders that can't defend adequately. It's really as simple as that. Pastore had massive problems too... never really settled down with Carlo at PSG.

His tactics require that 2 players stay up on the attack and everyone else defend actively. It doesn't matter how well you do on the attack... it's all about balance.

And, no, Ozil was not better than Isco, Di maria or Benzema. CR7... maybe. But CR7 plays hard every second and he'll become a beast soon enough.

If Ozil wants to play like this, he needs to go to a team where he can be a striker tbh.
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Post by Zealous Mon 26 Aug 2013, 23:41

Yohan Modric wrote:Ozil apparently earns €5m a year and going to €7m with an extension doesn't sound too bad.

In terms of leaving, well I'm sure everyone is worried about their place with Bale possibly arriving.
7m after tax boyo. Which means 15m before tax.
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Post by Zealous Mon 26 Aug 2013, 23:43

sportsczy wrote:Carlo doesn't accept midfielders that can't defend adequately.  It's really as simple as that.  Pastore had massive problems too... never really settled down with Carlo at PSG.  

His tactics require that 2 players stay up on the attack and everyone else defend actively.  It doesn't matter how well you do on the attack... it's all about balance.

And, no, Ozil was not better than Isco, Di maria or Benzema.  CR7... maybe.  But CR7 plays hard every second and he'll become a beast soon enough.

If Ozil wants to play like this, he needs to go to a team where he can be a striker tbh.
Don't think Di Maria/Benzema were any better than Ozil at that point in the game. Although Benzema had a different role with different responsibilities.
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Post by AltoZ Tue 27 Aug 2013, 01:57

Twitter says he was angry after being subbed vs Granada. He is unhappy.

Looks like he's gone. Im not sure if England is the right fit. German players always flops when they go to PL.
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Post by VanDeezNuts Tue 27 Aug 2013, 02:05

people keep bringing up that isco is better defensively. i personally dont see it. i dont see either of them making tackles and winning the ball back to be honest.

what i do see is that isco plays from just a tiny bit deeper. im thinking this is where the illusion comes in.

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Post by aleumdance Tue 27 Aug 2013, 03:15

How much does Ozil earn ina year?

cuz 7 million is too much,,,personally

EDIT: so he earns 5 Million whats wrong with it.?..dats a bad boy salary
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Post by aleumdance Tue 27 Aug 2013, 03:17

sportsczy wrote:Carlo doesn't accept midfielders that can't defend adequately.  It's really as simple as that.  Pastore had massive problems too... never really settled down with Carlo at PSG.  

why don't we have more Managers like this?, tired of seeing midfielders who can't even make a proper tackle but call themselves DM's ( Scott Parker)
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