Re: Gerardo 'Tata' Martino

by alexjanosik Tue Sep 03, 2013 5:09 pm

I understand alfred.Perhaps could have been brought on at HT against Levante.We were cruising but as you mentioned it was the first game.
Just want Bartra given games.Dont want it to be a repeat of last season where he was thrown in at the deep end versus Bayern.Besides Pique and Masch are going to burn out pretty quickly if they keep playing every game.

by BarrileteCosmico Tue Sep 03, 2013 5:10 pm

I completely agree with that and your previous points.\

It is a bit worrying to not see him on the bench and hear Martino tell the press he didn't have any CBs in the bench because he can always use Busquets. With Puyol coming back soon I doubt Bartra will get any minutes before the Rayo match (3 from now, after Sevilla and Ajax)

by The Franchise Tue Sep 03, 2013 7:58 pm

I am enjoying the role Busquets plays, I thought maybe it was just co-incidence at first but I am seeing consistently now a more adventurous role.

I want to withhold overall opinion on Tata though, more time is obviously required. But I have very little to complain about.

The one thing I would of liked to see, was more Sergi Roberto. But again like Bartra, all the games have been difficult so its understandable.

by kiranr Wed Sep 04, 2013 6:33 am

I don't think Tata will play Bartra or Sergi in his first season in charge. If he wins La Liga and has a good season in general, then he will become confident to play the youngsters, but not before he has proved himself to the club.

by Donuts Wed Sep 04, 2013 7:08 am

I think he will, he had the balls to play JDS and Sergi even just for 10 minutes but against a Valencia side that looked like they were going to take away two points from us.

the group stages will be a test for him, I think he will rotate the squad more.

by free_cat Wed Sep 04, 2013 8:33 am

It's way too early to judge Tata.

by BarcaLearning Sat Sep 07, 2013 2:04 am

Im happy with Tata grandpa so far Very Happy

Some things are clearly improved and hes done a few brave and right things which is very refreshing and impressive!

Still problems exists, and we are vulnerable, but so far so good....

by Donuts Fri Sep 13, 2013 8:37 pm

Spoiler:

by Winter is Coming Sat Sep 14, 2013 6:00 pm

"I talked to Tata Martino for an hour," Passarella told Ole. "It was a very nice chat and he said to me that in December Barcelona will need defenders.

by Madvillain Sat Sep 14, 2013 10:17 pm

Not related to football, but am I the only one who notices Martino seems to own just one jacket? Everytime he wore a jacket, it was this blue checked thing. I'm glad he is no Bielsa in that regard, but it is still kind of weird.

by danyjr Sat Sep 14, 2013 11:09 pm

Winter is Coming wrote:"I talked to Tata Martino for an hour," Passarella told Ole. "It was a very nice chat and he said to me that in December Barcelona will need defenders.

Passarella is a big fan of Éder Álvarez

http://www.diariopopular.com.ar/notas/167150-se-llevan-alvarez-balanta

Barrilete Cósmico Proud

by BarrileteCosmico Sun Sep 15, 2013 3:56 am

Pasarella is only a fan of the fee he'll get from his transfer.

by BarrileteCosmico Tue Sep 17, 2013 3:50 pm

Martino's father has passed away. He will coach vs Ajax and then return to Rosario.

by free_cat Thu Sep 19, 2013 11:12 am

So far martino's main contribution has been to make us play quite average and to erase most of what distinguis us from others teams. Watching barca is just like watching any random team, even Madrid, with our poorly elaborated game and very usual hoofing.
So far it's getting the results so I can't complain but usually we don't win big if we are not playing awesome.

by free_cat Thu Sep 19, 2013 11:16 am

So far martino's main contribution has been to make us play quite average and to erase most of what distinguis us from others teams. Watching barca is just like watching any random team, even Madrid, with our poorly elaborated game and very usual hoofing.
So far it's getting the results so I can't complain but usually we don't win big if we are not playing awesome.

by Khaled Thu Sep 19, 2013 1:28 pm

free_cat wrote:So far martino's main contribution has been to make us play quite average and to erase most of what distinguis us from others teams. Watching barca is just like watching any random team, even Madrid, with our poorly elaborated game and very usual hoofing.
So far it's getting the results so I can't complain but usually we don't win big if we are not playing awesome.

free_cat wrote:It's way too early to judge Tata.

by danyjr Thu Sep 19, 2013 6:31 pm

free_cat wrote:So far martino's main contribution has been to make us play quite average and to erase most of what distinguis us from others teams. Watching barca is just like watching any random team, even Madrid, with our poorly elaborated game and very usual hoofing.
So far it's getting the results so I can't complain but usually we don't win big if we are not playing awesome.

Him benching Mierdro has been enough for me to give him 10/10 Proud

by Donuts Thu Sep 19, 2013 10:11 pm

danyjr wrote:
free_cat wrote:So far martino's main contribution has been to make us play quite average and to erase most of what distinguis us from others teams. Watching barca is just like watching any random team, even Madrid, with our poorly elaborated game and very usual hoofing.
So far it's getting the results so I can't complain but usually we don't win big if we are not playing awesome.
Him benching Mierdro has been enough for me to give him 10/10

him benching Pedro is the reason Free seems to mad lately at him xD..

by BarrileteCosmico Thu Sep 19, 2013 10:13 pm

In an online poll by Sport 81% of respondents believe that Barca has a different style than before. Interesting.

by Donuts Thu Sep 19, 2013 10:49 pm

one thing is forsure I much prefer Tata over Tito, with no disrespect to Tito.

by free_cat Fri Sep 20, 2013 8:25 am

Donuts wrote:one thing is forsure I much prefer Tata over Tito, with no disrespect to Tito.

It's easy to say that now after last season semi failure, but the comparisons should be made at the end of the season. So far, I can't be very excited because we are moving away from Cruyffism and I liked our stule and until this day it has been the only style that brought us success.

But maybe we improve and we are successful. We will see.

Btw, none of my criticism has anything to do with Tata benching Pedro for a couple of games, I'm fine with that.

by BarrileteCosmico Fri Sep 20, 2013 8:28 am

At this time last season everyone was praising Tito, except for maybe Alex. But everyone else thought he was great, made Barca exciting again and enjoyed his more vertical style.

by The Franchise Fri Sep 20, 2013 10:43 am

Not me.

I felt he did well to that point but I disagreed completely with the notion we played more vertical with him and I am fairly sure I said the big games are yet to come, which are a bigger test of his abilities.

by free_cat Fri Sep 20, 2013 1:09 pm

Yeah, under tito we didn't play more vertical. That myth is long ago busted. Under Tata we definitely do.

by alexjanosik Fri Sep 20, 2013 4:16 pm

free
I cant see this move away from Cruyffism that you speak of.Could you please elaborate?

by free_cat Sat Sep 21, 2013 11:50 am

alexjanosik wrote:free
I cant see this move away from Cruyffism that you speak of.Could you please elaborate?

Well if you watched the ajax game, there was one team that was clearly following Cruyffism and it wasn't us.

We hoofed the ball from the back constantly (I read it was a record 38 times), we barely pressed or pressed awfully (we only recovered 5 balls in their field), we were counter attacking and disjointed with many players being more isolated than usually in attack, we still managed to have the most possession but marginally and vs a very poor team... etc.

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