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Post by Onyx Sat Jun 22, 2013 3:26 pm

AS saying the transfer is official. 30m Euros, 5 year contract.

Agreement was reached yesterday.


http://futbol.as.com/futbol/2013/06/21/primera/1371810775_946750.html

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Post by FalcaoPunch Sat Jun 22, 2013 3:41 pm

Goood goood goood
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Post by halamadrid2 Sat Jun 22, 2013 4:48 pm

but its not though is it

have patience brah. He might not sign for us. These papers just spout nonsense all the time and pretend its definite. EC said the same but about City a couple of days ago

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Post by LeVersacci Sat Jun 22, 2013 4:50 pm

Yeah won't celebrate until it's official.
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Post by LeSwagg James Sat Jun 22, 2013 7:00 pm

What will happen to Ozil? Would they play together?
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Post by Valkyrja Sat Jun 22, 2013 7:20 pm

Seriously I don't want him to come. He will get his career destroyed, with Bale coming, Ozil being better and Ronaldo in front of him.
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Post by Onyx Sat Jun 22, 2013 7:23 pm

----------Ronaldo---CF
-----Isco-----------------Ozil


--------------CF
---Ronaldo---Ozil---Isco

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Post by Valkyrja Sat Jun 22, 2013 7:26 pm

Isco can't play on the right, he is mainly a LW, Ozil is better than him, and on the left wing it's impossible, as Ronaldo doesn't want to play ST. If Modric leaves(hopefully), he will have much more game time.

Casillas, Jesus
Carjaval, Arbeloa
Ramos, Varane, Pepe, Albiol
Marcelo, Nacho
Khedira, Kondogbia
Gundogan, Xabi
Ozil, Isco
Bale, Callejon
Ronaldo, Jese
Benzema, :(higuain, Morata/other striker

I still hope that Pipita won't leave.
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Post by Onyx Sat Jun 22, 2013 7:34 pm

Isco was occasionally playing on the right for Spain and cutting in. Isco would be coming in from the right and linking up with others.

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Post by guest7 Sat Jun 22, 2013 7:41 pm

Great signing, finally we have proper competition for Özil. Özil has had 2 inconsistent seasons, and if he has one this year again, I could easily see Isco replacing him. Otherwise I can see Özil going to the wing and Isco in the middle, similair to how we used Kaka and Özil together.

I think we've been in need of a AM like Isco, Kaka was supposed to fill that role but he failed. Let's see how Isco does becouse I'm confident he will succeed if he comes. Nothing is granted yet so we can't assume and plan he will come, but just by the looks of it, it seems like a done deal though.
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Post by halamadrid2 Sat Jun 22, 2013 7:43 pm

If Ronaldo signs a new contract and we do great as a team next season we wont buy bale so spurs can keep their overpriced one tricky ponytail or sell him to united
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Post by Doc Sat Jun 22, 2013 8:22 pm

Is he even signed?
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Post by LeVersacci Sat Jun 22, 2013 8:32 pm

Nah
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Post by MadridiCanada Sun Jun 23, 2013 8:52 am

Finally we bought a Brain for our brainless and uncreative team.
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Post by Error Sun Jun 23, 2013 12:42 pm

Yohan Modric wrote:----------Ronaldo---CF
-----Isco-----------------Ozil



--------------CF
---Ronaldo---Ozil---Isco
I like the 1st formation and could see Ancelotti doing something like that (4-2-2-2). Other CF would be obviously Benzema since Higgy is leaving.

I think something like this would look actually pretty exciting:

Ronaldo/Jese-----Benzema/Morata

Isco/Di Maria--------Özil/Callejon Modric


We could easily shift to 4-2-3-1 in case CR or Benzema gets injured. Backups for Isco and Özil wouldn't be ideal though, specially Callejon, and wouldn't mind to find a proper backup.

edit: I forgot we also have Modric so he would be obviously better choice than Callejon or Di Maria to AM position.
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Post by Onyx Sun Jun 23, 2013 3:09 pm

Modric is a CM so it'd be:

-------------Ronaldo---CF
--------Isco----------------Ozil
-----------Modric/CM---DM

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Post by FalcaoPunch Sun Jun 23, 2013 4:06 pm

Stop saying Ozil is better. Because this season, he wasn't, not even close.
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Post by SuperMAG Sun Jun 23, 2013 4:22 pm

lol he was.

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Post by FalcaoPunch Sun Jun 23, 2013 4:46 pm

SuperMAG wrote:lol he was.
You're right.
In terms of assist from corners, Ozil was WAYYYYYY better.
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Post by SuperMAG Sun Jun 23, 2013 5:04 pm

perhaps you should actually count all the stats correctly before deciding, perhaps people like me will get better understanding of why he was better Smile

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Post by VanDeezNuts Sun Jun 23, 2013 5:25 pm

it will probably be announced tomorrow. either that or theyre waiting for the window to actually be officially open- who would have guessed that?

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Post by FalcaoPunch Sun Jun 23, 2013 7:27 pm

Stats are great and all but they can only convey so much especially for certain players. I'm terrible in looking them up. And there's no doubt Ozil has better stats than Isco. I'd be surprised if it was the other way around.

Now this is a break down (courtesy of Sports)
 The official ones are on realmadrid.com. Here it is: 

Benzema http://www.realmadrid.com/cs/Satellite/en/1193041476158/1202775163178/jugador/Jugador/Benzema.htm

La Liga - 11 assists
CL - 5
CDR - 3
Total = 19 (should ignore the BS ones that get him to 22 lol)

Ozil http://www.realmadrid.com/cs/Satellite/en/1193041476158/1330012508587/jugador/Jugador/Ozil.htm

La Liga - 10 assists
CL - 4
CDR - 3
Total = 17


Ozil wasn't up to snuff this season compared to his previous two.
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Post by Cyborg Sun Jun 23, 2013 10:38 pm

yea, stats only tell so much, not the whole story.

it doesnt show how many chances he creates were players missed as well as other aspects.

but why do supports of madrid always doubt players so much. players who have proven themselves so often. Yes madrid always wants the best but we have to understand that these are athletes, humans not robots.

As soon as someone has an off game, we supports are quick to shout 'get rid of him' or 'we wasted our money on him'. We need to stop this nasty trait.
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Post by Le Samourai Sun Jun 23, 2013 11:22 pm

He's somewhat different from Ozil - already better in front of goal and running at defenses but doesn't have the range or defense splitting ability. They can compliment each other if they both see the ball enough. Ozil should be the attacking initiator - he is the attacking initiator at Malaga - he won't respond well to being deprived of that.

I don't see him setting up on the right and I don't see him coming if that's clear that it's his role.
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Post by FalcaoPunch Sun Jun 23, 2013 11:24 pm

I don't think anyone has hinted at selling Ozil, I know I haven't.

But the truth is that overall the team had a poor season. Certain players had below par performances throughout the season.
Ozil is the only player that plays CAM. Who's his competition? Kaka? rofl

Modric can play in Ozil, but he prefers to be CM. which means if Ozil's form dips we are stuck. Isco may or may not start but I think he'd be a great addition
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