Why are the English terrible at football?

by Clockwork Orange Thu May 30, 2013 6:25 am

I decided to watch the England game with my friend. I could not stomach it and didn't tune in after half time. How can a country, responsible for giving us our treasured sport (its modern iteration) be so bad at it.

Awful at passing, bad at positional play, very awful transitions, it was disgraceful. English football is at least 30 years behind the continent. Ajax disgraced the second best team both at home and away. Your league is finished.

Can someones please give me a plausible explanation? I am dumbfounded. I sat there feeling ashamed for English football.

by Great Leader Sprucenuce Thu May 30, 2013 6:27 am

Coaching is awful, there's more to it than that but our coaches from top to bottom are horrendous.

by izzy Thu May 30, 2013 6:27 am

Your agenda to hate everything English is boring.

Do something else.

by jibers Thu May 30, 2013 6:28 am

by Tomwin Lannister Thu May 30, 2013 6:28 am

Still more world cups than the Netherlands tbf.

by free_cat Thu May 30, 2013 6:28 am

Inventors always fall behind eventually.
Others copy and improve while inventors stick to the origins. It happens in many fields, technology, arts..

by Rebaño Sagrado Thu May 30, 2013 6:29 am

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by Casciavit Thu May 30, 2013 6:33 am

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by jibers Thu May 30, 2013 6:36 am

by Great Leader Sprucenuce Thu May 30, 2013 6:37 am

izzy wrote:Your agenda to hate everything English is boring.

Do something else.

Tbf he's absolutely spot on.

by sportsczy Thu May 30, 2013 6:40 am

wrong manager. There's enough talent to do a lot better in terms of quality of football.

by Juveman17 Thu May 30, 2013 6:40 am

This is my thread :bow:

by Great Leader Sprucenuce Thu May 30, 2013 6:44 am

sportsczy wrote:wrong manager. There's enough talent to do a lot better in terms of quality of football.

Problem is there isn't a quality English coach alive lol.

by Tomwin Lannister Thu May 30, 2013 6:49 am

Pardew says hello Mole Very Happy

by Arquitecto Thu May 30, 2013 6:49 am

Dutch speaking of terrible football when they haven't won a World Cup compared to England and have a 2nd rate league compared to the PL. Laughing

Not the best position to criticize English Football no matter how ugly it is.

by DuringTheWar Thu May 30, 2013 6:49 am

Because some genius revolutionised the English game with the ethos that getting as close to the goal as quickly as possible = most chance of success. This is certainly not how the English invented the game as someone suggested

by Suarez99 Thu May 30, 2013 6:50 am

Wouldnt say the league is "finished". No matter how bad of footballers you produce, and England do, you can buy success for your country through your league. England is the best example of this.

Have not made an International final since '66 yet club success is almost unmatched.

by Great Leader Sprucenuce Thu May 30, 2013 6:51 am

Miguel Delaney ‏@MiguelDelaney 5m
Hodgson asked about formation/system and says he can't see how Dortmund's 4-4-2 is too different from England's 4-4-2.

:facepalm:

says its f*cking all.

Arquitescu wrote:Dutch speaking of terrible football when they haven't won a World Cup compared to England and have a 2nd rate league compared to the PL.

Not the best position to criticize English Football no matter how ugly it is.

No need for this Arq, its a good topic and irrelevant of who the poster is it should be discussed like anything else and he makes some good points.

I don't agree with the league part, but the national team itself is horrid.

by DuringTheWar Thu May 30, 2013 6:54 am

Fabio Capello Proud

aren't those pesky Italian managers just terrible Proud

by Arquitecto Thu May 30, 2013 6:56 am

Great Leader Sprucenuce wrote:Miguel Delaney ‏@MiguelDelaney 5m
Hodgson asked about formation/system and says he can't see how Dortmund's 4-4-2 is too different from England's 4-4-2.

says its f*cking all.

Arquitescu wrote:Dutch speaking of terrible football when they haven't won a World Cup compared to England and have a 2nd rate league compared to the PL.

Not the best position to criticize English Football no matter how ugly it is.

No need for this Arq, its a good topic and irrelevant of who the poster is it should be discussed like anything else and he makes some good points.

I don't agree with the league part, but the national team itself is horrid.

In that respect I apologize yet I'm surprised you haven't seen the malicious intent behind the poster who spends his time on this forum:

-Speaking of Juventus & Italian cheating
-Mediocrity of English Football
-Preaching how the Dutch football way is to go despite it being brainless, outdated and obsolete.

The problem is obvious. Its their youth training that in their nascents stages, focuses on physical traits and height over technique and footballing IQ etc with the stubborn conviction that comes along with it.

Its common knowledge now so I don't buy his obliviousness to it.

by Lex Thu May 30, 2013 7:00 am

England schooled Brazil not so long ago, if I'm not mistaken. Made Nerman look like Gareth Barry :coffee:

by Great Leader Sprucenuce Thu May 30, 2013 7:01 am

Meh everyone does it, i don't really care anymore.

Go into every thread with an open mind, malicious intent or not.

by Lex Thu May 30, 2013 7:01 am

Mole's lifting technique is sub-par

How's that for malicious :coffee:

by Clockwork Orange Thu May 30, 2013 7:03 am

Great Leader Sprucenuce wrote:Coaching is awful, there's more to it than that but our coaches from top to bottom are horrendous.

Why is it so bad Great Leader? As usual your knowledge on such matters comes to the forefront in such debates. You continue to illuminate this forum whos light is slowly but surely fading away.

izzy wrote:Your agenda to hate everything English is boring.

Do something else.

How? Is it because I am saying my hypothesis based on my observation? Why does this get you so much?

jibers wrote:

As usual you add nothing substantial to any debate. You are a mafiosos like your club Manchester United and relish the chance at watching that man Moyes sink your club to nothingness

AbraKebabra Alacalamb wrote:Still more world cups than the Netherlands tbf.

I don't see how this is relevant. Then again I expect little from a Juventino. I am sure you are doping in your room as you typed this post. A dog mirrors its master.

Arquitescu wrote:Dutch speaking of terrible football when they haven't won a World Cup compared to England and have a 2nd rate league compared to the PL.

Not the best position to criticize English Football no matter how ugly it is.

hmmm. Ajax outplayed your champions last season both home and away in the champions league. The Eredivisie suffers because there is no money and all our talent are poached. We haven't won a world cup but our football is what has influenced teams such as your Milan side under Saachi, Barcelona and Bayern Munchen of late. Even Dortmund follow our methods. We left a legacy in both tactics, footballing principles and philosophy. We have had a bigger mark on footballs evolution than any other nation in the sport. I expected much better from you Arquitecto.

I am guessing the name change is a signal of a shift in your once great self. Only a matter of time before the negativity of Calcio ate away at your logic.

Diego Armando Maradona wrote:Because some genius revolutionised the English game with the ethos that getting as close to the goal as quickly as possible = most chance of success. This is certainly not how the English invented the game as someone suggested

Hmmm. The coahces in England are terrible. It is no wonder that the top 4 clubs are never coached by any English managers. The period of 'English Domination' ironically was caused by importing foreign talent due to the explosion of money and tactical revolutions caused by Rafael Benitez, Arsene Wenger and the one who must not be named. I know about Herbert Chapman's influence on this sport and I am sure he is rolling in his grave at the state of football in his country. Luckily, Mr Wenger is still following his methods. I applaud him and I truly hope trophies come soon.

by BarrileteCosmico Thu May 30, 2013 7:03 am

Arquitescu wrote:Dutch speaking of terrible football when they haven't won a World Cup compared to England and have a 2nd rate league compared to the PL.

Not the best position to criticize English Football no matter how ugly it is.

Well, tbf, England shouldn't have a WC and they've only gone past semi finals 2 times in history, compared to the dutch reaching 3 finals and getting to semis 4 times.

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