We believe in Jose Mourinho Fan Club

The_Badger wrote:

Arquitescu wrote:When people what Mourinho is outside this footballing persona that he has delicately crafted for himself; they will be shocked to learn the disparity between Jose in the footballing world and outside it.

For people who have seen, met or even experienced his off-footballing persona will know what I mean.

Have you actually met him?

Arquitescu wrote:When people what Mourinho is outside this footballing persona that he has delicately crafted for himself; they will be shocked to learn the disparity between Jose in the footballing world and outside it.

For people who have seen, met or even experienced his off-footballing persona will know what I mean.

Arquitescu wrote:@Badger: No.

BarcaLearning wrote:

Arquitescu wrote:When people what Mourinho is outside this footballing persona that he has delicately crafted for himself; they will be shocked to learn the disparity between Jose in the footballing world and outside it.

For people who have seen, met or even experienced his off-footballing persona will know what I mean.

Even if thats true, he just goes too far in his delicately crafted footballing persona.

Arquitescu wrote:

BarcaLearning wrote:

Arquitescu wrote:When people what Mourinho is outside this footballing persona that he has delicately crafted for himself; they will be shocked to learn the disparity between Jose in the footballing world and outside it.

For people who have seen, met or even experienced his off-footballing persona will know what I mean.

Even if thats true, he just goes too far in his delicately crafted footballing persona.

Which is my prime criticism of him resorting to unethical manoeuvres, unnecessary actions and sometimes frivolous methods to accomplish his tasks to which are without class and dignity. It's shocking how different he is say, when taking a vacation away from the footballing world.

@Badger: well done

huntsman wrote:Hazard is raw material. He has all the qualities to be one of the best players of his generation. His dribbling skills are only second to Messi.

The system that mourinho plays is excellent, but it has its flaws. And just like anything which is near perfection, a single ingredient which might be off by a small margin, an inch or less, triggers a process of malfunctions which eventually affect the efficiency of the system and cause it even to break down.

Mourinho's system has been copied by the best teams in the world. Atletico Madrid for example, they use a similar system. Real Madrid? The same system which Mourinho brought with him to Madrid.

Then why the above teams are doing better than Chelsea and can Chelsea become the undisputed best team?

The answer is yes and no.
Yes because the system that mourinho plays is almost perfect; however the imperfections in it are so damaging that it only takes those few impurities to bring down such a system from being the undisputed best to being an excellent contender but not a winner. However, if such impurities had been cleared, then in my calculations, even the greatest barca team wouldve been second to this Chelsea Team.

No, because what it takes to build the best system in the world is actually a something that Mourinho lacks and will not be able to correct by himself. He has to be lead to the correction because it is difficult for him to see it amidst the storm.
I say it is difficult because its not impossible and i have written about this factor before (8 months or so ago) when i presented the foundation of this fault right here on this forum and predicted this ill demise long time ago. Not sure whether the thread / post had been deleted but it does clearly talk about the faults in Mourinho's system and predicts an evolutionary phase manifesting in his second coming. Mourinho will be back at the top but not with the best system ever until this:

There is one more factor, and this time its technical and i dont think Mourinho knows about it. Its simple, yet so innovative and vital that can lift his system from the boring yet efficient system to one of the most entertaining and most efficient.

Mourinho was very close to achieving this system with Real Madrid however, this was done unintentionally through a system error but was quickly negatied buy another miscalculation.

I look forward to enjoying the evolutionary phase of Mourniho and his second coming and i am curious to see how much time it will take for him to gain this experience.

huntsman wrote:being liked is a sign of mediocrity to the person who's liked. It means the general public can relate to him, hence mediocrity.
I dont want that for Jose.

Dnmac4 wrote:

huntsman wrote:being liked is a sign of mediocrity to the person who's liked. It means the general public can relate to him, hence mediocrity.
I dont want that for Jose.

Oh god when will this endless, meaningless drivel stop?

Michael Jordan was one of the most liked Athletes of all time, Messi is very well liked by the public, I don't know one person who has ever said, "god, I can't stand that Andres Iniesta, I hate him".  Tiger Woods in his prime was the most popular athlete in the world.  The same goes for Michael Phelps, Rodger Federer, Usain Bolt etc etc I could go on and on.

All of these people are the total opposite of Mediocre.

Jose Mourinho's success isn't the reason he is hated like you are trying to convey, he is hated because he is a terrible loser and a terrible winner, in a big fight for no reason he went after a guy with Cancer, He's one of the biggest hypocrites of all time, He's just flat out wrong a lot of the time, he plays some of the worst football with some of the best players on earth, he makes up conspiracy theories and lays blame on people who have no reason being blamed, he's a liar, he's pretentious, he's an asshole, and finally with all of this going on unless he wins he looks like a total fool.

That is why he's hated.

huntsman wrote:

Dnmac4 wrote:

huntsman wrote:being liked is a sign of mediocrity to the person who's liked. It means the general public can relate to him, hence mediocrity.
I dont want that for Jose.

Oh god when will this endless, meaningless drivel stop?

Michael Jordan was one of the most liked Athletes of all time, Messi is very well liked by the public, I don't know one person who has ever said, "god, I can't stand that Andres Iniesta, I hate him".  Tiger Woods in his prime was the most popular athlete in the world.  The same goes for Michael Phelps, Rodger Federer, Usain Bolt etc etc I could go on and on.

All of these people are the total opposite of Mediocre.

Jose Mourinho's success isn't the reason he is hated like you are trying to convey, he is hated because he is a terrible loser and a terrible winner, in a big fight for no reason he went after a guy with Cancer, He's one of the biggest hypocrites of all time, He's just flat out wrong a lot of the time, he plays some of the worst football with some of the best players on earth, he makes up conspiracy theories and lays blame on people who have no reason being blamed, he's a liar, he's pretentious, he's an asshole, and finally with all of this going on unless he wins he looks like a total fool.

That is why he's hated.

This is nothing to do with most liked athletes. I was making a general statement. I dont want to delve deeper into this old subject because it will confuse alot.

chad4401 wrote:huntsman mou wasn't close to achieving bleep all with madrid , chelsea play like shit pass to hazard, madrid play like shit pass to cr and don't forget to target 1 or 2 players as problems incase of failures (mata,benz) see the similarities?