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Post by Ganso Wed Apr 16, 2014 7:57 pm

@Doc wrote:Prefer the technical prowess of Neymar over Bale's raw power. As for this season, well, Bale (literally) helped his team to a trophy so he is getting a nice start to his RM career. Meanwhile, Neymar fluffed a clear cut chance in stoppage time while having a stinker in a final.

15-love to Bale...
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Post by Doc Wed Apr 16, 2014 8:03 pm

I like how you forgot to red the part when he missed a clear cut chance in a final. I also love that clumsy miss from Bale, which final was that?! To be fair, I forgot about the Super Cup so you're right, it's 15 all.

Both are actually having good seasons individually btw so don't get your panties all jumbled up in a nut...
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Post by Arquitecto Thu Apr 17, 2014 12:44 am

Jokes aside Bale has a long way to go before usurping Neymar in terms of what Neymar has done for Barca this season and Neymar's inert capabilities, in which Bale does not even compare to.

Neymar post 1-month injury has taken an underwhelming dip yet has had a steady stream of performances and for what they lack of spectacular glitz they make for up in consistency.

Bale on the other hand has yet to perform when against the grain let alone a big game. One defensive error from an already known Bartra cannot quell his the mediocrity of his performance and his big game disappearances.
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Post by Lupi Thu Apr 17, 2014 3:01 am

:coffee: I think Neymar is a very talented player the player that i dislike and he has way higher potential than bale. Its difficult for casual observer of the game to make a definitive reason to defend Neymar if he is seemingly failing to reach his potential.I personally believe its a matter of co existing with messi as the main protagonist for Barcelona. Its really difficult task to bring the right balance in the team and i think martino couldn't apply it just yet.
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Post by M99 Thu Apr 17, 2014 5:35 am

Fluffed a chance, that's harsh on Nerman. He had Casillas beaten there, he was unlucky that did not go in.
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Post by Winter is Coming Thu Apr 17, 2014 12:14 pm

Overreaction if he manages to lift the World Cup this summer this convo will be banned for all of eternity :coffee:
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Post by Onyx Sat May 17, 2014 7:16 pm

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Post by Doc Tue May 20, 2014 5:53 pm

@Winter is Coming wrote:Overreaction if he manages to lift the World Cup this summer this convo will be banned for all of eternity :coffee:

Not like Bale has an equal chance to participate in the WC, far less win it. Guy just happened to be born in Wales while Neymar being from the greatest footballing nation on Earth. But yeah, Brasil winning the WC (not like they have a choice, Brasil HAVE to win it) would make this thread (and me) look really, really, really silly.
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Post by Motogp69 Tue May 20, 2014 7:36 pm

Yeah, neither Bale nor Ramsey will ever play in a World Cup.

Neymar was never better than Bale, and I don't see that changing.
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Post by Ganso Tue May 20, 2014 8:35 pm

I don't get how Bale not playing in the WC would make Neymar winning it less of an achievement(because that's what some of you are implying).If Neymar wins it he will automatically be one of South America's greatest players ever.

On those stats, they are one sided, neymar started 19 games(idk how many of those on the RW) while Bale started 24.
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Post by Motogp69 Tue May 20, 2014 9:32 pm

Bale and Neymar both played 31 games this past year:

Bale had 20 goals and 16 assists (played out of position)
Neymar had 15 goals and 11 assists (played in his preferred position)

So why are we arguing?
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Post by Donuts Tue May 20, 2014 11:29 pm

lets stop using the games stat, use minutes played.
not that i'm saying it'll favor Neymar but the amount of games played is hardly a useful stat.
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Post by Winter is Coming Tue May 20, 2014 11:48 pm

@Motogp69 wrote:Bale and Neymar both played 31 games this past year:

Bale had 20 goals and 16 assists (played out of position)
Neymar had 15 goals and 11 assists (played in his preferred position)

So why are we arguing?

Neymar played a lot of games out of position, as well and with an old/aging squad, as well as his first season in Europe ever, so yes why are we having this argument?
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Post by Harmonica Wed May 21, 2014 2:59 am

Neymar has the potential but his first season turned out to be a Robinho. Bale was better.
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Post by jibers Wed May 21, 2014 4:14 am

@Harmonica wrote:Neymar has the potential but his first season turned out to be a Robinho. Bale was better.

If Madrid win La Decima then yes. If they don't, then their seasons would be about equal. They bought these guys to win major titles not mickey mouse cups.
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Post by Donuts Wed May 21, 2014 4:40 am

I thought we all predicted Bale would be better in the beginning, Neymar still needs to settle and get used to a whole new continent.
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Post by M99 Wed May 21, 2014 6:48 am

@Motogp69 wrote:Bale and Neymar both played 31 games this past year:

Bale had 20 goals and 16 assists (played out of position)
Neymar had 15 goals and 11 assists (played in his preferred position)

So why are we arguing?

Not always.
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Post by jibers Wed May 21, 2014 6:57 am

@Motogp69 wrote:Bale and Neymar both played 31 games this past year:

Bale had 20 goals and 16 assists (played out of position)
Neymar had 15 goals and 11 assists (played in his preferred position)

So why are we arguing?

If you didn't watch him all season wtf are you making a *bleep* stupid comment? Bar the game against Madrid in the 1st classico in every big game he was played out of position. Go and watch the games before posting rubbish.
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Post by LeVersacci Wed May 28, 2014 3:42 pm

Bale > Neymar this season

Next season will be fun hmm
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Post by Doc Sat Dec 20, 2014 11:59 pm

So it's like I'm the only one who remembers this thread and furthermore, Bale has scored yet in another final (while being ridiculously useless). On the flip side, Neymar is probably playing better football than Bale but the trophy count is pretty one sided to the Welshman.

So, how goes the opinions? Has it changed or does one finally wield?
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Post by FennecFox7 Sun Dec 21, 2014 3:13 am

Neymar is much better as a footballer but bale has a unique skill set. Very quick and strong, with a powerful shot. as many have said, hes cr lite.

Bale is also in horrendus form. so i wouldn't compare the two just yet all the way
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Post by Ganso Sun Dec 21, 2014 9:30 am

@Doc wrote:So it's like I'm the only one who remembers this thread and furthermore, Bale has scored yet in another final (while being ridiculously useless). On the flip side, Neymar is probably playing better football than Bale but the trophy count is pretty one sided to the Welshman.

So, how goes the opinions? Has it changed or does one finally wield?
tbf 11 men win trophies, not 1 or 2 players. Madrid is the best team in the world atm, while Barca would probably struggle to beat most top sides. Neymar has been scoring in most big games like Bale, so you can't blame him for anything. Or messi for that matter. Barca's team suck atm, simple as that, so it's tough to compare individuals based on trophies.

I would say Bale and Neymar are at the same tier right now. Nerman's advantage is that he is 22 and Bale 25.
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Post by Mr Nick09 Sun Dec 21, 2014 9:40 am

Ganso, that, and it still seems to me like when i watch football games, Neymar has a greater overall impact on the quality of his team in attack, than bale. Both are great finishers, but Neymar is a better player.

Again, that's not a negative onBale, he is great athwart he does, one of the best actually. but some people are better...
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Post by futbol Sun Dec 21, 2014 10:54 am

I don't even think Bale is faster than Nerman judging by Nerman's games for Brazil, certainly not with the ball or in terms of acceleration. At Barca Nerman just doesn't get any opportunities to run into space and build up speed, his starting position is already high up the pitch with defenders on his back, whereas Bale gets countless opportunities to run at defenders, playing for the best counterattacking side in the world. Either you have tight space specialists like Xavi and Iniesta at their peak who are unfazed to play through 20 defenders in a telephon booth or you don't and the entire style is useless and needs modifying and all the forwards struggle. But that's another topic I guess. Regardless of all that, for a 22 year old who plays for a team that doesn't even suit his strengths he's tremendously decisive. No way Bale would do better at Barca if they were swapped. Nerman on a counterattacking team however ... Probably the only good thing Rosell did during his tenure, snatching him away from uncle Flo. Laughing

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Post by Freeza Sun Dec 21, 2014 10:58 am

Would take Neymar instead of Bale 11 out of 10 times if I had the chance...
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Post by chad4401 Sun Dec 21, 2014 1:43 pm

nerman>bale when will some learn scoring=good performances is stupid, what the point of positioning,vision,creativity,link up and technical ability if scoring>all that, grow up already scoring in a final makes you better rofl when your clearly not, whats so unique about out running your opponent and shooting until you score and nothing else, can't even pick out an easy pass majority of time, neymar twice the footballer bale is end of
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