Re: Summer Transfer Rumour Thread

by Arquitecto Thu Apr 25, 2013 7:14 pm

AbraKebabra Alacalamb wrote:Carlo would give RM a decent shot at La Decima would he not?

And Mou has been pretty awful in the league, Carlo can't to much worse. Maybe Carlo would ditch the constant counter attacking which should really be a plan B for such a big club. Carlo gets too much grief.

Only in GL he does. Outside he is praised for what he is. Bizarre forum it is sometimes.

by Mr Nick09 Thu Apr 25, 2013 7:15 pm

carlo is probably worse tactician that karanka

by Arquitecto Thu Apr 25, 2013 7:18 pm

Mr Nick09 wrote:carlo is probably worse tactician that karanka

Then your view of tactics is severely warped, I must be mistaken. Disapprove his tactics in any of these 3 teams and I'll accept your claim.

As of now, its quite a baffling statement.

by Onyx Thu Apr 25, 2013 7:18 pm

Yeh, Perez has given a pre-contract to Ancelotti.

However I'd prefer Klopp after what he did yesterday or Heynckes.

by Tomwin Lannister Thu Apr 25, 2013 7:22 pm

Well if Carlo goes to RM, Ibra might be on his way back to Turin after all.

I don't think Ancelotti would be bad for Madrid, surely he has to be one of the best managers around.

by Ganso Thu Apr 25, 2013 7:25 pm

Marca saying that Barca are going hardcore this transfer window after a CB and a striker

by Great Leader Sprucenuce Thu Apr 25, 2013 7:26 pm

Ganso wrote:Marca saying that Barca are going hardcore this transfer window after a CB and a striker

Their vice president said today they wanted 4 or 5 players.

by Tomwin Lannister Thu Apr 25, 2013 7:27 pm

A CB I can understand. It took Barca far too long to understand they need one.

But a striker? Messi ain't moving wide, Barca probably won't change from 4-3-3 and once again you'll have a striker (Probably a big name too) playing second fiddle to Messi and having to do a lot of leg work for him, not to mention get his ass boo'd out of the stadium if he doesn't look to feed Messi.

If I was a capable striker, I would not be looking to Join Barca. Backwards move if you're already playing in a big club.

by Ganso Thu Apr 25, 2013 7:32 pm

Great Leader Sprucenuce wrote:
Ganso wrote:Marca saying that Barca are going hardcore this transfer window after a CB and a striker

Their vice president said today they wanted 4 or 5 players.

what an idiot,now they will have to overpay.

I honestly wouldnt be surprised if Barca made a ridiculous offer of 60M for neymar Laughing

by Great Leader Sprucenuce Thu Apr 25, 2013 7:33 pm

AbraKebabra Alacalamb wrote:A CB I can understand. It took Barca far too long to understand they need one.

But a striker? Messi ain't moving wide, Barca probably won't change from 4-3-3 and once again you'll have a striker (Probably a big name too) playing second fiddle to Messi and having to do a lot of leg work for him, not to mention get his ass boo'd out of the stadium if he doesn't look to feed Messi.

If I was a capable striker, I would not be looking to Join Barca. Backwards move if you're already playing in a big club.

Barca's plan in most big games recently has been this....

Busquets
Xavi Iniesta
-----Messi----- Pedro
Villa

With Alves attacking the space on the right when possible, this does not surprise me in the slightest.

As mentioned before the whole fake 9 stuff has become easy for big teams to defend against.

by RealGunner Thu Apr 25, 2013 7:39 pm

What are the odds they will come in for Koscielny

by Onyx Thu Apr 25, 2013 7:41 pm

Even if Alves attacks that space and Villa/CF plays, I still think a top defensive team could handle them. They just need to be more flexible and less one dimensional when they play.

That and they aren't doing what they did under Pep. Balague said:

“Things missing from the Pep era: positional game, pace, pressure high, defensive line, runs into box, work of wingers, tactical surprise”

by Great Leader Sprucenuce Thu Apr 25, 2013 7:44 pm

Yohan Modric wrote:Even if Alves attacks that space and Villa/CF plays, I still think a top defensive team could handle them. They just need to be more flexible and less one dimensional when they play.

Surely this is showing another dimension and shows flexibility?

by Ganso Thu Apr 25, 2013 7:45 pm

------thankGodheisleaving----
Montoya-Hummels-Pique-Alba
----Xavi-----Busquets-Iniesta
---Pedro-----Messi----Nerman--

(c ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)

by RealGunner Thu Apr 25, 2013 7:46 pm

Pedro is bench player at best

by Mr Nick09 Thu Apr 25, 2013 7:46 pm

Arquitecto wrote:
Mr Nick09 wrote:carlo is probably worse tactician that karanka

Then your view of tactics is severely warped, I must be mistaken. Disapprove his tactics in any of these 3 teams and I'll accept your claim.

As of now, its quite a baffling statement.

well, obviously that was a joke, to dignify how little i rate him. Let's see, i look at managers based off their most recent experiences, and when i look at Carlo's team building skills at PSG, i am disappointed. I saw a man who took almost 18 months to figure out an actual tactical guideline for his team. he had no clear direction which way he wanted to go. he swapped formations more time than mou said he wanted to return in england. if it wasnt for Ibra he would have never won the league (not yet i know).

look Arq, i respect the man but he has shown little to justify the praise you give to him (at least in the perspectives of becoming RM manager). He is another coach that will ride on CR without trying to put together a potent tangible footballing unit. The best thing he did at PSG was to give the players confidence and making them believe they can be great, we dont need that. his work as far as getting the team to perform as a whole week in and week out, his ability to develop a brand of footy, have fell a bit short if you ask me.

But then again, he is being chosen because he has a big name, he can supposedly control the locker room like mastermind mourinho. but if we look at the football PSG have been playing in 18 months, he should never be even talked about. But then again, it's Perez, and he is never going to help us win another CL with the decisions and choices he makes.

by Great Leader Sprucenuce Thu Apr 25, 2013 7:48 pm

Unless Pedro goes back to the Freddie Ljungberg type player he was before.

And stop just hugging the touch line offering f*ck all then they should look to improve on him.

Wouldn't surprise me in the slightest if they used the system i mentioned and bought Neymar and a CF Laughing

by Ganso Thu Apr 25, 2013 7:53 pm

People hate on Pedro too much,he hasnt been THAT bad for Barca,He still scores his important goals here and there and has great workrate.Not to mention his form for Espana(/Arq).I doubt Tito will drop him

by Onyx Thu Apr 25, 2013 7:59 pm

Great Leader Sprucenuce wrote:
Yohan Modric wrote:Even if Alves attacks that space and Villa/CF plays, I still think a top defensive team could handle them. They just need to be more flexible and less one dimensional when they play.

Surely this is showing another dimension and shows flexibility?

It is but they're still going to pass about like they do currently and not get anywhere against solid defenses. By flexibility I mean in style. They're too one dimensional currently against solid defenses.

by Great Leader Sprucenuce Thu Apr 25, 2013 8:01 pm

Ganso wrote:People hate on Pedro too much,he hasnt been THAT bad for Barca,He still scores his important goals here and there

Aye 5 goals all season Laughing

Fact is the awful Alexis " Jesus wept" Sanchez has double the assists of Pedro and one less goal and infinitely less game time.

Now i'm not saying Alexis has been good it just shows how awful Pedro is.

He offers f*ck all besides work rate.

by Tomwin Lannister Thu Apr 25, 2013 8:03 pm

Never been impressed for Pedro outside of the NT. He just isn't very good at any aspect of the game whenever I've watched him.

I would expect him to be a sevilla quality player or something. Not Barcelona.

by Great Leader Sprucenuce Thu Apr 25, 2013 8:09 pm

Tbf he is very good for Spain, but for Barca the last couple of years he has gone from someone who peeled off the wing attacked the space in behind the defence to someone who just hugs the touchline and offers close to zilch offensively.

Barca's forwards, Messi aside are horrendously ineffective.

by barca 2011 Thu Apr 25, 2013 9:21 pm

Ganso wrote:Marca saying that Barca are going hardcore this transfer window after a CB and a striker

Reus + Hummels

And the Dortmund Exodus begins.

Neymar next year however

by barca 2011 Thu Apr 25, 2013 9:24 pm

Plus goal.com reports that Lewa has now agreed terms with another club, they just don't say who? Any truth to this?

by chad4401 Thu Apr 25, 2013 9:28 pm

barca 2011 wrote:Plus goal.com reports that Lewa has now agreed terms with another club, they just don't say who? Any truth to this?

please dont be madrid Sad

by BarcaLearning Thu Apr 25, 2013 9:52 pm

Ffs and I thought Lewand was confirmed going to Bayern as well...thats why I dont like those making threads and post saying like it is confirmed done deal....

Ancelotti is another one I still have my suspisions about... Razz

Has his work at PGS been really that good? His time overall at Chelsea? His time at Milan overall? Obviously a very experience manager though....

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