Re: Summer Transfer Rumour Thread

[BarcaLearning]

Ffs and I thought Lewand was confirmed going to Bayern as well...thats why I dont like those making threads and post saying like it is confirmed done deal....

Ancelotti is another one I still have my suspisions about... Has his work at PGS been really that good? His time overall at Chelsea? His time at Milan overall? Obviously a very experience manager though....

[donttreadonred]

Plus goal.com reports that Lewa has now agreed terms with another club, they just don't say who? Any truth to this?

please dont be madrid

I thought it was supposed to be Bayern as well...

[urbaNRoots]

Paris Saint Germain coach Carlo Ancelotti has reportedly told La Parisien that his intention is to leave the Ligue 1 club this summer.

The Italian coach has been a key part of PSG’s success since his arrival in 2011 and is set to capture the Ligue 1 title but reports of a summer exit have loomed over the former AC Milan and Chelsea boss since January with claims he is the man chosen to replace Jose Mourinho at Real Madrid.

Although nothing concrete has been made on the claim, reports last week stated that Ancelotti was now 90% certain to replace Mourinho, who himself looks likely to switch clubs with a return to Chelsea hot in the press.

And French newspaper La Parisien have added more on the reports, releasing an exclusive claiming Ancelotti has told PSG officials that he intends to leave when the season ends.

“Carlo Ancelotti has made a decision. According to board members, the Italian coach decided to leave PSG end of the season. The decision was made on Wednesday with President Nasser al-Khelaifi,” said French newspaper.

“Ancelotti is close to a deal with Real Madrid, but also has offers from Manchester City and Arsenal.”

According to the report PSG are looking at the possibility of replacing Ancelotti with Arsene Wenger and are set to approach the North London club in the next two weeks.

http://www.le10sport.com/football/ligue1/psg/wenger-priorite-des-dirigeants-du-psg-103047

[Arquitecto]

carlo is probably worse tactician that karanka

Then your view of tactics is severely warped, I must be mistaken. Disapprove his tactics in any of these 3 teams and I'll accept your claim.

As of now, its quite a baffling statement.

well, obviously that was a joke, to dignify how little i rate him. Let's see, i look at managers based off their most recent experiences, and when i look at Carlo's team building skills at PSG, i am disappointed. I saw a man who took almost 18 months to figure out an actual tactical guideline for his team. he had no clear direction which way he wanted to go. he swapped formations more time than mou said he wanted to return in england. if it wasnt for Ibra he would have never won the league (not yet i know).

look Arq, i respect the man but he has shown little to justify the praise you give to him (at least in the perspectives of becoming RM manager). He is another coach that will ride on CR without trying to put together a potent tangible footballing unit. The best thing he did at PSG was to give the players confidence and making them believe they can be great, we dont need that. his work as far as getting the team to perform as a whole week in and week out, his ability to develop a brand of footy, have fell a bit short if you ask me.

But then again, he is being chosen because he has a big name, he can supposedly control the locker room like mastermind mourinho. but if we look at the football PSG have been playing in 18 months, he should never be even talked about. But then again, it's Perez, and he is never going to help us win another CL with the decisions and choices he makes.

No wonder you won Objective Poster of the Year. Which means to say it is why it been rather gradual in understand what you look for and appreciate in a manager (pertains for Madrid I notice), very similar for your midfield search for Real. Understandable.

I agree that Carlo's constant tactical scrapping and re-deploying his been thoroughly annoying especially when there wasn't the need to scrap the incremental identity being formed. I think his first season was harsh as the redevelopment from Koumbare's tactics and its adaptation was a point of inertia from the team. It didn't help when Montpellier had the best form of the season during that time and were on quite the momentum. Where he did fail is, not sticking to the 4-3-2-1 which worked wonders in the beginning of his first months.

I have to disagree on PSG. Thing is this squad is laden with key points of imbalance. Centrebacks such as Silva and Sakho are top class. Yet the problem are the very weak fullbacks, to which provides a dillema considering the wide players do not track back and there isn't a true DM (Matudi too vertical). Initially his plan was to keep narrow in compensating for the defensive and midfield frailties, yet that was shot to shit given the talented Ligue 1 managers exploited it through mass width. Width was finally addressed by formations such as 4-4-1-1 and the occasional 5-3-2 in a modified form. Since then, the team HAS formed a semblance of identity. Which is why their defence numerically is excellent, chemistry is apparent within the switch of wide players from the central and the recent freedom that was allowed to Matudi, Lucas and Jallet (to exploit open space) in the 2nd half. It may not be fun to watch, yet I find it quite effective, Barca was just a incepted example of the direction Paris is going in.

Ibra? Same conception was made for Allegri's Milan as without Ibra Milan were less decisive, yet faster, more fluid and far more dynamic. We acquired an excellent record without him. PSG without Ibra lack his cutting edge vision and playmaking yet look similar to Year One Milan in troubling the French defences more (especially) wide, with more movement and a sense of dynamism which is the mark acquired after the absence of a player you build your team around. Same as Mourinho who has built the team around Cristiano. Reliant on CR maybe yet if the side wasn't built around CR, utilizing an effective combination of CR-Benz or Higgy-Benz with CR in a outside left for example, we would have seen a far more dynamic Madrid. PSG don't have Benz' brilliance or Higgy's instinctual prowess yet combinations in the absence of Ibra such as Lavezzi with Gamiero, Lucas with Pastore supported by Lavezzi or Menez etc have shown to me what is a better PSG without Ibra, despite the latter player launching them into near title.

I don't see him building a side around CR as Ancelotti has never built a side around someone like him unless it is Kaka/Seedorf/Costa or Ibra since they possess playmaking and more complete characteristics. Which is why he did not build the side around anyone at Chelsea. Mark my words you will see him utilize Benzema far more effectively and build it around him (if he stays) rather than CR as Benz is an Ancelotti type player.

PSG from the Money Clubs are running the most intelligent and efficient project to which has garnered my respect. Why? Ancelotti has been given time to re-work and stimulate an identity to the club to which has slowly been incremented, as dreary as the journey has been. I understand his annoying perfectionism is highly unnecessary, yet he did the EXACT same thing in Milan, until results and identity was eventually formed through where we looked good, played well and won titles. Different systems, yet his method hasn't seemed to change. Same thing happened at Chelsea in importing his system, sadly being forced to play Torres (who he did not want) had to completely re-work his tactical plan to suit the sulking figure to which cost him the PL and CL respectively, and it truly did. Why? He was essentially ordered to build the side around Torres to which was destined to be a disaster given how Torres became at Chelsea instantly.

I can see why you don't think he is the right man for Madrid. What I see is someone who will need more time then needed to built a philosophy within Real to which will be less pleasing to watch, yet eventually results will incur along with a playing style to which will garner the respect of Madrilenos, used to the champagne football they seek.

This won't convince you, yet its a question of future judgement and evaluation. Don't expect quick results with Carlo if he comes to Madrid. Yet what remains is that he is tactically far ahead of Mourinho, he just falls short in other areas. Tactics were never the question. It was his consistency of applying them.

[Kaladin]

Arq that post was Fapulous, yet again

[sportsczy]

Carlo is great when his team is in cup play and everyone is automatically concentrated since it's either a single game or double game elimination (most times lol). His flaws are as follows:
- He's not a great motivator. In league, where it's a marathon, his team tends to be inconsistent at times. If Ibra wasn't on PSG and hadn't saved the club in numerous games, PSG don't win ligue 1 imo. That's on Carlo to keep everyone focused.
- He plays too many different tactics and gets stubborn when one does't work. For example, he keeps trying the 4222 and it fails almost every time. The reason being that Lucas and Lavezzi are wingers. They aren't comfortable playing more centrally. Again, that's on him for being mule-headed. PSG almost looks disorganized at times because they haven't perfected a style as a result of all the changes in tactics. I think there should be a basic style and then variations...
- He's too conservative. With PSG, they should just attack some of the team full out because of their talent advantage. You don't try to out-think lesser opponents... you want to overwhelm them. That's not part of his DNA. He tries to be supertactical regardless of the competition.

Other than that, i don't really have a lot to complain about. I love his class and his handling of the media. I prefer attacking football that is built from the midfield... so i don't like this counter attacking style. I blame EPL for influencing him lol.

For Madrid, i think he's a safe hire if it happens. He won't do anything fantastic but he won't fail either. Just not very exciting... i would prefer someone who had more imagination. I would like Madrid to always look to build a dynasty. Well... no dynasty with Carlo lol.

Just my opinion.

[sportsczy]

I also want to personally thank Carlo for accepting to manage PSG and helping to put PSG, and Ligue 1 by association, back into European relevance. You can love him or hate him... but you cannot deny that French football is much better for having had CA as a manager for a couple of years.

[Blue]

PSG from the Money Clubs are running the most intelligent and efficient project to which has garnered my respect. Why? Ancelotti has been given time to re-work and stimulate an identity to the club to which has slowly been incremented, as dreary as the journey has been. I understand his annoying perfectionism is highly unnecessary, yet he did the EXACT same thing in Milan, until results and identity was eventually formed through where we looked good, played well and won titles. Different systems, yet his method hasn't seemed to change. Same thing happened at Chelsea in importing his system, sadly being forced to play Torres (who he did not want) had to completely re-work his tactical plan to suit the sulking figure to which cost him the PL and CL respectively, and it truly did. Why? He was essentially ordered to build the side around Torres to which was destined to be a disaster given how Torres became at Chelsea instantly.

Lets the set the record straight Carlo wanted to buy Torres and it was his decision only to purchase him.

Ray Wilkins has been quoted twice saying that. In fact Carlo wanted to buy Torres a transfer window earlier.

But hey believing Roman was obsessed with buying Torres and ordering Carlo to play him is much more easier and sensational story to believe.

“I know for a fact that Carlo wanted Fernando Torres and David Luiz so Mr Abramovich went out and got them.

Read more: http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/sport/football/4750100/Ray-Wilkins-Chelsea-boss-dilemma-due-to-Roman-Abramovich.html#ixzz2RZWElNQ2

[sportsczy]

A lot of things change in 12 months Blue. Torres' production in the transfer window where CA wanted him was very good. The following year, it had fallen off 50% at Liverpool. Your reasoning is flawed. I mean, just look at Kaka... i'm sure a lot of people wanted him in 2009 and far fewer in 2010.

The fact that Chelsea went ahead with paying that much for Torres when he had declined already so much showed incompetence, plain and simple.

[Blue]

A lot of things change in 12 months Blue. Torres' production in the transfer window where CA wanted him was very good. The following year, it had fallen off 50% at Liverpool. Your reasoning is flawed. I mean, just look at Kaka... i'm sure a lot of people wanted him in 2009 and far fewer in 2010.

The fact that Chelsea went ahead with paying that much for Torres when he had declined already so much showed incompetence, plain and simple.

Ray Wilkins is saying that he wanted to buy Torres in the infamous 2011 january window, but also is saying he wanted him signed earlier in the 2010 summer transfer window.

I could argue that Torres was much more attractive signing in the january window then in the summer, remember Torres was stinking it up in the world cup and ended it on a injury.

I still very much respect Carlo and lets be honest not many could have predicted Torres going from one of the best striker to a traffic cone on the pitch.

Carlo is a great manager and that year we won the double was the best Chelsea season in my lifetime. We scored shitload of goals and absolutely annihilated almost every team.

As you pointed out that his biggest weakness is consistency in the league campaign. It is still surprising how we allowed Man U back in title contention that season.

[Mr Nick09]

Not only does he not play good football to watch, but he absolutely and stubbornly parks and counters against about everyone, even the last in the table. There is 0 bravado in the kind of football he coaches, no attacking intent to go and to make his opponent tap out. For a club like Madrid it's a quality that is extremely understated because we are always going to face teams that will look to counter what we do, and as we can see with mourinho, we struggled a lot in europe where talent is level and you need a little bit more attacking harmony in your team. Which is something that doesnt exist with current PSG still, at least not at a very high level.

And the fact that we are already hearing how he plans to bring little Verratti in Madrid tells me half the story of what's going to happen. For the third time in a row, he will try to implement his super narrow christmas tree formation, with a 3 man midfield including Verratti. last 2 times it failed, and we will see how it goes, but my bet is that it will fail again just the same. and he will go back to a more traditional formation while the team still wont understand what he is trying to do. It's unfair to play guess work, but that's how it went at PSG, and at Chelsea if i recall but im no expert on that.

[Forza]

All I read is "wah, wah, wah".

Carlo is still one of Europe's elite coaches and one of the most successful coaches of all time.

I suppose the 2 times his tactics failed include PSG's current title-winning season and Chelsea's EPL title & FA cup? Or were you referring to his 2 Champions Leagues and Serie A title in Milan?

Bravado? Tap-out? Carlo's game is chess, not boxing.

Such ingratitude.

[Tomwin Lannister]

All I read is "wah, wah, wah".

Carlo is still one of Europe's elite coaches and one of the most successful coaches of all time.

I suppose the 2 times his tactics failed include PSG's current title-winning season and Chelsea's EPL title & FA cup? Or were you referring to his 2 Champions Leagues and Serie A title in Milan?

Bravado? Tap-out? Carlo's game is chess, not boxing.

Such ingratitude.

He's actually underrated here. I never thought I would see such a successful coach be 'underrated' on a football forum.

[Mr Nick09]

All I read is "wah, wah, wah".

Carlo is still one of Europe's elite coaches and one of the most successful coaches of all time.

I suppose the 2 times his tactics failed include PSG's current title-winning season and Chelsea's EPL title & FA cup? Or were you referring to his 2 Champions Leagues and Serie A title in Milan?

Bravado? Tap-out? Carlo's game is chess, not boxing.

Such ingratitude.

and when mourinho signed for madrid they said he was the ultimate best, unbeatable, best coach in football, CL guarantees and all the bullshit. now we see a pathetic man who in 3 years didnt develop anything potent, yet mainly relies on CR like any run of the mill manager would.

you dont watch PSG so it's better for you not to talk about it. but to just look at the resume when you are trying to hire a coach is to me a huge mistake. You have to understand what goes on the pitch and whether that profile works for your team. I havent seen Carlo's PSG play chess this season, maybe you have. he gets his defensive line very deep, and counter with fast runners like Menez, lucas and lavezzi while heavily relying on Ibra to get the job done.

that's what people like you dont get, i would beg Pelle to take us back if i could, and he doesnt have half the resume of carlo, yet he is a much better fit than the fat italian. The management of clubs like Bayern get it, or even at Barca or Juve, they just get it. the rest? they are too dumb, the chelsea, real, city of this world, they go after the big guy because he has a big resume and they end up paying millions for not that much.

[sportsczy]

CA doesn't do a bad job... he often does a good job tbh. You can't hate him for bad results because he mostly gets good results. The issue is that his teams' play is uninspiring.... very little imagination. You don't dream about a team coached by CA. Most people want sexy football and CA doesn't play sexy football, just like Mou.

[Onyx]

Bayern deny Lewandowski deal:

In response to various reports regarding Robert Lewandowski, FC Bayern issues the following statement: contrary to these reports, FC Bayern has no contract with Robert Lewandowski.

http://www.fcbayern.telekom.de/de/aktuell/news/2013/41906.php?fcb_sid=be2a3fec97a3d92885da0a2f2e993752


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Schurrle's agent:

"I’m hoping for a solution by the weekend", Schurrle’s agent Ingo Haspel told German daily Bild.

"I’m waiting for information from Leverkusen or Chelsea", he continued.

"I can only repeat that Chelsea want Andre. Otherwise, they would not be negotiating with Bayer."

http://www.bild.de/sport/fussball/andre-schuerrle/berater-hofft-auf-loesung-bis-zum-wochenende-30137380.bild.html

[sportsczy]

Having no contract is obvious since they haven't triggered a release clause or agreed to a fee with Dortmund... he can't sign a contract beforehand.

[Forza]

CA doesn't do a bad job... he often does a good job tbh. You can't hate him for bad results because he mostly gets good results. The issue is that his teams' play is uninspiring.... very little imagination. You don't dream about a team coached by CA. Most people want sexy football and CA doesn't play sexy football, just like Mou.

What happened to "Mourinho is the saviour of Madrid, the special one will lead us to La Decima"? How quickly the tide has turned. When Madrid got Mourinho, everyone knew it wouldn't be pretty, but he had got results in the past and if he could repeat his previous success at Madrid he would be hailed as a hero. The point is, don't tell me that you wouldn't trade a season of Carlo's gritty counter-attack and tactical manoeuvring for a title.

Not only that, but I think Carlo's style is being made out to be ugly when it's not. It's not tika-taka, I'll give you that, but I definitely found it enjoyable to watch at Milan -- and even more enjoyable was the success that came with it.

[sportsczy]

dude... i have disliked Mou since forever. Everyone knows that here. I don't dislike CA. I think he's good. But i don't like his style of football. To me, footy is a form of entertainment and should be entertaining. That's why i watch Arsenal under Wenger, Liverpool under Rogers, Napoli, Fiorentina, Lille, Malaga, etc.

Unfortunately for me, my two favorite teams, OM and Madrid, play purely result-driven tactics that are often difficult to watch. There's no artistry. But what can you do lol.

I'm not dissing Carlo. IN fact, i thanked him on this thread a couple pages back. But if i had to choose a style, it would not be his.

[Onyx]

I think any coach would be able to win La Liga with Real Madrid. It's not hard to win with the squad and resources available.

The main one we want is the CL.

[Great Leader Sprucenuce]

The problem with Carlo is his league record.

He struggles with the marathon that is a league campaign because of the reasons Sports mentioned.

You cannot argue with his CL record though.

[DeviAngel]

Nani to Juve reports say that now lol

[Mr Nick09]

Santos President:"We are listening to offers to transfer Neymar this summer"

Cadena Ser indicating that everything is set up with barca

http://www.mundodeportivo.com/20130426/fc-barcelona/odilio-rodrigues-snatos-neymar-no-renueva_54372875656.html

[Great Leader Sprucenuce]

This Neymar to Barca thing is getting boring tbh, everyone knows its happening but we still have to wait months on end before it actually does

[Tomwin Lannister]

Neymar to be boo'd off the pitch after 15 games when he doesn't feed Messi.

[Kaladin]

Neymar to not live up to expectations which prompts Barca to sell or loan him to another club, NUFC manage to get him on loan. NUFC manage to make top 3 and win the FA cup

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