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Post by marottalad Thu 11 Apr 2013, 02:12

looking onto poistives after that performance last night which i don't even want to think about ever again according to lol.com we want him for around 24 million. who here thinks he can play with llorente/vucinic or some 1 like matri next season? he is a beast of a player there's no doubting that! but can he play with another tall like llorente and can we actually even afford him?
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Post by marottalad Thu 11 Apr 2013, 02:19

and also if we need to sell vidal or pogba to get some 1 like suarez in we should do it. but only if their on the suarez/aguero level i wouldn't sell any of our stars to bring in martinez or jovetic
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Post by The Franchise Thu 11 Apr 2013, 02:38

You probably wont want to pay for him, he wont be cheap.

Also, hes good but limited. For example, if he started against Bayern, I dont think he would of made much difference. He needs service, without it he will struggle.
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Post by Luca Thu 11 Apr 2013, 02:47

We need a little genius next to Llorente/Vucinic and co.

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Post by marottalad Thu 11 Apr 2013, 02:52

let's just effing give liverpool vidal+ cash for suarez unless u guys wanna see scrubs like matri and giovinco leading the line against teams like barca next season? it would be nice if the board gave us a handout for once agnelli you are a multi billionare pleeeeease just give the fans a gift. i have the upmost respect for you and youre family but but if u just made this 1 star purchase as a once off our team would be leaps and bounds better.
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Post by VanDeezNuts Thu 11 Apr 2013, 04:25

you are offering up vidal? has he played poorly?

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Post by DeviAngel Thu 11 Apr 2013, 04:28

just get sanchez or Jovetic ... ffs

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Post by marottalad Thu 11 Apr 2013, 05:39

vanDEEZ wrote:you are offering up vidal? has he played poorly?

it's got nothing to do with vidal as a player it's more the fact that we need that creative striker which is pointing out the bleeding obvious of course. vidal is replaceable with players like marone,asamoah or pogba all capable of playing in his position obviously marrone and asamoah wouldn't be as good as vidal but they wouldn't be bad, we need suarez or aguero type of player that badly we need to make sacrifices. pogba in my opinion could easily replace vidal
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Post by Dario Altafini Thu 11 Apr 2013, 07:21

There is no way at all, that Juve should sell Vidal, best player they have! If you wanna sell a player who you think can raise a decent amount of money in my opinion it would be better to sell Marchisio then Vidal because Vidal is a much better player than Marchisio. Personally i wouldn't sell either, but if i had to choose a player to sell for good money it would be Marchisio because in my eyes he showed again he isn't at the level of a world class player, where as Vidal is.

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Post by lucianomoggi Thu 11 Apr 2013, 08:19

MARCHISIO aswell is a problem same as the strikers, if he would perform like he knows sometimes than he is OK, but his inconsistency is costing JUVENTUS...

MARCHISIO is a problem to JUVENTUS as well as the strikers...

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Post by Targus Thu 11 Apr 2013, 15:52

The Franchise wrote:You probably wont want to pay for him, he wont be cheap.

Also, hes good but limited. For example, if he started against Bayern, I dont think he would of made much difference. He needs service, without it he will struggle.

agree to that

Luca wrote:We need a little genius next to Llorente/Vucinic and co.

thanks for the perfection luca, :bow: we need a typical italian, with strength in his feet, and creativity and vision in his mind
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Post by Targus Thu 11 Apr 2013, 16:01

marottalad wrote:let's just effing give liverpool vidal+ cash for suarez unless u guys wanna see scrubs like matri and giovinco leading the line against teams like barca next season? it would be nice if the board gave us a handout for once agnelli you are a multi billionare pleeeeease just give the fans a gift. i have the upmost respect for you and youre family but but if u just made this 1 star purchase as a once off our team would be leaps and bounds better.

no way man, vidal is our big warrior, the only one who was worthy to play for bayern in the first leg, he won already every tackle, every battle with bayern players, he was the only one who was in every part of the field ready to help his team mates, the only one to attack and defend, beyond the loss, i felt bad for vidal because he gave his spirit, everything he had for juve. (as all players should)
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Post by Targus Thu 11 Apr 2013, 16:02

lucianomoggi wrote:MARCHISIO aswell is a problem same as the strikers, if he would perform like he knows sometimes than he is OK, but his inconsistency is costing JUVENTUS...

MARCHISIO is a problem to JUVENTUS as well as the strikers...

yeah it is, sometimes he plays like he is the most complete player in the world, sometimes he disappears, conte needs to change these tactics because they are not worthy in europe
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Post by Il Fenomeno Vero Fri 12 Apr 2013, 14:16

If Fernando Llorente is not considered a top striker there is no way that Jackson Martinez is one. You will have to go back to the 08/09 season where Llorente has failed to score 20+ goals in all competitions. Martinez already 26 has just burst onto the scene and for 24+ million you would be getting a player you is not much younger, not as experienced and tbh not a great deal better than Llorente. in fact the only strikers that would really make that difference up front and suit our style of play would be Suarez, Aguero, Balotelli, Ibra Or Benzema. Of those the Suarez and Aguero are the only really feasible options (Ibra is a mercenary and should never come within a country mile of Juventus).

Also the suggestion of selling Vidal is ridiculous, you challenge for European titles by adding quality to your team not by letting you best players leave. Do you see the likes of Bayern, Barca, Real Madrid or United unnecessarily weakening their side? Of course not.

The fact that Vidal is considered one of the truly world class B2B midfielders atm is enough to suggest he should remain at Juve


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lucianomoggi wrote:MARCHISIO aswell is a problem same as the strikers, if he would perform like he knows sometimes than he is OK, but his inconsistency is costing JUVENTUS...

MARCHISIO is a problem to JUVENTUS as well as the strikers...

yeah it is, sometimes he plays like he is the most complete player in the world, sometimes he disappears, conte needs to change these tactics because they are not worthy in europe
When Marchisio looks like he's fading out of games is because he's being tactically vigilant. Often doing much more of the off the ball defensive work that goes unnoticed unless you watch from the stadium.

The fact that this year we haven't being playing at as high a level as last season due to European obligations means that means that we haven't controlled games at such a high tempo in the back part of this season, and as such have required a greater need for defensive balance which Marchisio has provided. This, as well as our unpredictability in attack being lacking somewhat, has affected his game and he hasn't had as prolific a season as the previous.
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