Re: Is Suarez a Top 10 player?

by DeletedUser#1 Fri Mar 01, 2013 4:06 pm

I think champions of Zimbabwe are a better team than us.

after all, they are not "Mid-Table"

:coffee:

by Great Leader Sprucenuce Fri Mar 01, 2013 4:11 pm

Suarez has wonderful vision and passing.... can it be erratic and inconsistent? sure.

But when you are the player trying to make the difference for a team in the attacking third it always will be and i don't care who you are.

Even the best player in the world Lionel Messi can sometimes be accused of this when trying to make the difference in the attacking third for his team.

You are entitled to take risks and fail to make the difference this is the same for any footballer for any team who is again making the difference for his team.

This doesn't mean he's a headless chicken or anything close to it he's trying very hard to make the difference when quite frankly his team mates are not capable.

I would not be surprised if you see his decisions end up in assists rather than nothing now he has Coutinho and Sturridge around him.

Is Suarez vision and passing WC? probably not but its bloody brilliant anyway.

by Onyx Fri Mar 01, 2013 4:13 pm

Suarez's dribbling is impressive at times, however I think his dribbling style is too haphazard and he is kinda wasteful sometimes.

by worms Fri Mar 01, 2013 4:37 pm

Harry Redknapp wrote:I think champions of Zimbabwe are a better team than us.

after all, they are not "Mid-Table"

Shakhtar with Willian was better than any English team. Probably about level with Man United at the moment.If they played in EPL they would be 1st or 2nd. Probably 2nd as United are the masters at beating rubbish teams.

by McAgger Fri Mar 01, 2013 5:20 pm

worms wrote:
Messiah "Aggerswagger" wrote:
worms wrote:I don't get it.Because I am a Liverpool fan I must overrated our players and in general be deluded about our team and players like the majority of our fanbase? We are a mid table club and we mostly have mid table players with the odd good player in our lineup(Suarez,Gerrard,Lucas,Johnson).

I rate Suarez as a top 40 player,is that not rating him? I am not one of those people who judges players of highlights,I watch lots of our games and I notice the way he often has a poor first touch,poor decision making,zero vision or passing skills for a so called world class player.

You don't think it's funny that a big club in the CL didn't want to buy him?

Xabi is that you again???? "lol:

Anyways playing for a midtable team doesn't make Suarez any less good. If that's the case then why do you have the likes of Willian, Hulk, Montolivo, Fernandino, Rossi, and Jovetic on your list in the previous post. Hypocrite much??

You watch most of our games, well most of us here watch every single game and you must be deluded if you don't think Suarez has world class vision. His touch and passing ain't half bad either.

And how do you know a big club in the CL doesn't want to buy him??? Are you his agent?? Because from reading the reports it seems Bayern and City very much want him on their teams, and Juve were gunning for him all summer.

worms wrote:"Everywhere you find these people who barely watch the games"

If you would have read my post properly you would have seen that I watch most Liveprool games,just out of curiosity how many times have you been to Anfield?

Why is it relevant how many times people attend Anfield?? You claim to live in Liverpool, so good on you that you have the opportunity to see us play whenever you like. Most of us live half a world away and aren't as fortunate as you, so don't insult anyone's intelligence here.

Stopped reading when you said Fernandinho plays for a mid table team.

Should've read to the end, could've actually learned something.

by McAgger Fri Mar 01, 2013 5:22 pm

worms wrote:
Messiah "Aggerswagger" wrote:
worms wrote:The only pass there that required vision was the one at 3.00.The ones at 0.52 and 5.58 are nice passes but these are the best passes of his whole season and I just find myself thinking 'Meh'.

Admit it his vision and passing is poor.I could make a 10 minute video of him failing to see a pass this season and a 20 minute one of him running down blind alleys and into a group of opposition players.

Either do it or don't bring it up. Blind exaggeration is unhealthy.

Either show me videos of Suarezs world class vision and passing or don't bring it up.

First I didn't say I could pull 20 minute videos out of my a$$ showing Suarez's vision, but Nishank posted a video showing his class vision already. The ball is in your court my friend. Pull out the 20 minute video because we're waiting

by worms Fri Mar 01, 2013 7:18 pm

Messiah "Aggerswagger" wrote:
worms wrote:
Messiah "Aggerswagger" wrote:

Either do it or don't bring it up. Blind exaggeration is unhealthy.

Either show me videos of Suarezs world class vision and passing or don't bring it up.

First I didn't say I could pull 20 minute videos out of my a$$ showing Suarez's vision, but Nishank posted a video showing his class vision already. The ball is in your court my friend. Pull out the 20 minute video because we're waiting

No he didn't.

Plus,I said I could make a 20 minute video of him,obviously I am not going to download every Liverpool game this season and spend 30 hours of my time making it. Laughing

But I could if I wanted to,because that evidence exists.Anybody who isn't a deluded Liverpool fan can see he has massive limitations as a football player.

I bet you also think Agger is world class and Reina is a good Goal Keeper don't you? Laughing

by McAgger Fri Mar 01, 2013 7:28 pm

worms wrote:
Messiah "Aggerswagger" wrote:
worms wrote:

Either show me videos of Suarezs world class vision and passing or don't bring it up.

First I didn't say I could pull 20 minute videos out of my a$$ showing Suarez's vision, but Nishank posted a video showing his class vision already. The ball is in your court my friend. Pull out the 20 minute video because we're waiting

No he didn't.

Plus,I said I could make a 20 minute video of him,obviously I am not going to download every Liverpool game this season and spend 30 hours of my time making it. But I could if I wanted to,because that evidence exists.Anybody who isn't a deluded Liverpool fan can see he has massive limitations as a football player.

I bet you also think Agger is world class and Reina is a good Goal Keeper don't you?

Yes Nishank did, scroll at the top of this page.

You can't do it because the evidence doesn't exist.

And yes I think Agger is world class and Reina is a good keeper.

by ExtremistEnigma Fri Mar 01, 2013 7:41 pm

worms wrote:Now to prove that he is nowhere near the top 10 players in the world I will make a list of who is better than him(this might take a while).I won't include defenders as it is too hard to compare.

Ibra, Iniesta, Messi, Ribery, RVP,NeymarPirlo,CR7,Xavi,Busquets,Swinestiger,Muller,Ribery,Robben,Falcao,Marchisso,Montolivo,Ozil,Di Maria,Bale,Alonso,Gotze,Reus,Aguero,Dzeko,Silva,Mata,Cavani,Willian,Fernandinho,Hulk,Jovetic,Isco,Carzola,Martinez,Villa,Lewdoski,Benzema,Higuian,De Rossi.

So there is 38 players who are better than him.Only about 10 of them are debatable.Probably some I am missing as well.

.

Top 10 player

This list is hilarious. :bow:

by ExtremistEnigma Fri Mar 01, 2013 7:47 pm

He gets dispossessed a lot of times, you know why? He tries to nutmeg, dribble or create a chance with every touch of the ball.. doesn't look for an easy pass. He's a player who takes risks.

by worms Fri Mar 01, 2013 7:52 pm

ExtremistEnigma wrote:He gets dispossessed a lot of times, you know why? He tries to nutmeg, dribble or create a chance with every touch of the ball. doesn't look for an easy pass.. He's a player who takes risks.

That is the definition of a headless chicken in football.Thank you for proving my point.

by worms Fri Mar 01, 2013 7:57 pm

Messiah "Aggerswagger" wrote:
worms wrote:
Messiah "Aggerswagger" wrote:

First I didn't say I could pull 20 minute videos out of my a$$ showing Suarez's vision, but Nishank posted a video showing his class vision already. The ball is in your court my friend. Pull out the 20 minute video because we're waiting

No he didn't.

Plus,I said I could make a 20 minute video of him,obviously I am not going to download every Liverpool game this season and spend 30 hours of my time making it. But I could if I wanted to,because that evidence exists.Anybody who isn't a deluded Liverpool fan can see he has massive limitations as a football player.

I bet you also think Agger is world class and Reina is a good Goal Keeper don't you?

Yes Nishank did, scroll at the top of this page.

You can't do it because the evidence doesn't exist.

And yes I think Agger is world class and Reina is a good keeper.

Sorry still can't find a video he posted showing Suarez's "class vision".

The fact you think a error prone CB who can't mark and is physically and aerially weak is world class and that Pepe the clown is a good GK makes me not be surprised by the way you continually overrate our best player.

Let me ask you something,if all our players are so good why have we been a mid table club for the last 3 years?

by ExtremistEnigma Fri Mar 01, 2013 7:58 pm

Headless chicken is a player whose technical/mental attributes aren't as strong as their physical ones. Example of a headless chicken would be Walcott. Pacy player, but his brain doesn't work as fast as his feet.

Also, Ribery has been the second most dispossessed player in Europe this season. Headless chicken by your logic. :bow:

by DeletedUser#1 Fri Mar 01, 2013 9:03 pm

Worms by the way, may I ask why you refer to Barca as "we" in other threads if you are a Liverpool fan ?!

by McAgger Fri Mar 01, 2013 9:07 pm

worms wrote:
Messiah "Aggerswagger" wrote:
worms wrote:

No he didn't.

Plus,I said I could make a 20 minute video of him,obviously I am not going to download every Liverpool game this season and spend 30 hours of my time making it. But I could if I wanted to,because that evidence exists.Anybody who isn't a deluded Liverpool fan can see he has massive limitations as a football player.

I bet you also think Agger is world class and Reina is a good Goal Keeper don't you?

Yes Nishank did, scroll at the top of this page.

You can't do it because the evidence doesn't exist.

And yes I think Agger is world class and Reina is a good keeper.

Sorry still can't find a video he posted showing Suarez's "class vision".

The fact you think a error prone CB who can't mark and is physically and aerially weak is world class and that Pepe the clown is a good GK makes me not be surprised by the way you continually overrate our best player.

Let me ask you something,if all our players are so good why have we been a mid table club for the last 3 years?

If you can't find the video then I recommend actually watching some Pool games.

Again Agger is world class and Reina is a good goalkeeper.

I never said ALL of our players are that good. We've got a good squad with some quality players. We do need more quality. And I also think mentality is a big factor on why we're under performing. Yes!! We are under performing. We've got a good enough team quality wise to contend for 4th every season but our mentality has been shite. I think BR is the right man to change that though Thumbs up

by worms Fri Mar 01, 2013 9:15 pm

Harry Redknapp wrote:Worms by the way, may I ask why you refer to Barca as "we" in other threads if you are a Liverpool fan ?!

I support both teams.Is that ok by you?

by RealGunner Fri Mar 01, 2013 9:18 pm

Harry Redknapp wrote:Worms by the way, may I ask why you refer to Barca as "we" in other threads if you are a Liverpool fan ?!

He is a glory hunter

by McAgger Fri Mar 01, 2013 9:34 pm

Doesn't he also support Atletico?

by worms Fri Mar 01, 2013 9:59 pm

RealGunner wrote:
Harry Redknapp wrote:Worms by the way, may I ask why you refer to Barca as "we" in other threads if you are a Liverpool fan ?!

He is a glory hunter

I was going to respond to your childish insult by calling you a glory hunter back but then I remembered you support Arsenal. Laughing

A club that hasn't won any European trophies.

by worms Fri Mar 01, 2013 10:10 pm

Messiah "Aggerswagger" wrote:Doesn't he also support Atletico?

Don't you support Liverpool,Real Madrid and Fiorentina.

One more than me bro.

by McAgger Fri Mar 01, 2013 10:12 pm

worms wrote:
Messiah "Aggerswagger" wrote:Doesn't he also support Atletico?

Don't you support Liverpool,Real Madrid and Fiorentina.

One more than me bro.

nah only Madrid and Pool. Jovetic is my favorite player and I absolute adore Tuscany.

I wouldn't count you as a Pool supporter. So you support Atleti and Barca, got it Thumbs up

by worms Fri Mar 01, 2013 10:17 pm

Messiah "Aggerswagger" wrote:
worms wrote:
Messiah "Aggerswagger" wrote:Doesn't he also support Atletico?

Don't you support Liverpool,Real Madrid and Fiorentina.

One more than me bro.

nah only Madrid and Pool. Jovetic is my favorite player and I absolute adore Tuscany.

I wouldn't count you as a Pool supporter. So you support Atleti and Barca, got it

Why should I care about about whether or not somebody who has never visited Anfield counts me as a Liverpool supporter? Laughing

by RealGunner Fri Mar 01, 2013 10:22 pm

and how many times have you visited the Camp Nou ?

by McAgger Fri Mar 01, 2013 10:24 pm

worms wrote:
Messiah "Aggerswagger" wrote:
worms wrote:

Don't you support Liverpool,Real Madrid and Fiorentina.

One more than me bro.

nah only Madrid and Pool. Jovetic is my favorite player and I absolute adore Tuscany.

I wouldn't count you as a Pool supporter. So you support Atleti and Barca, got it

Why should I care about about whether or not somebody who has never visited Anfield counts me as a Liverpool supporter?

How is me never visiting Anfield relevant??

If it makes you sleep at night, I can tell you that it is on my bucket list.

by Rebelles.REUS.rex Sat Mar 02, 2013 8:54 am

Messiah "Aggerswagger" wrote:
worms wrote:
Messiah "Aggerswagger" wrote:

First I didn't say I could pull 20 minute videos out of my a$$ showing Suarez's vision, but Nishank posted a video showing his class vision already. The ball is in your court my friend. Pull out the 20 minute video because we're waiting

No he didn't.

Plus,I said I could make a 20 minute video of him,obviously I am not going to download every Liverpool game this season and spend 30 hours of my time making it. But I could if I wanted to,because that evidence exists.Anybody who isn't a deluded Liverpool fan can see he has massive limitations as a football player.

I bet you also think Agger is world class and Reina is a good Goal Keeper don't you?

Yes Nishank did, scroll at the top of this page.

You can't do it because the evidence doesn't exist.

And yes I think Agger is world class and Reina is a good keeper.

LOL

by Kaladin Sat Mar 02, 2013 9:15 am

So i have to visit the San Siro to be a fan? pls go

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