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Post by RealGunner Sat Apr 09, 2016 9:21 pm

I genuinely think Suarez has had a better season between him, Neymar and Messi. He is a genuine difference maker and Barca did great when messi was injured or when neymar was out however without Suarez barca look quite toothless and they lack a genuine match winner which he has proved to be this season time and time again.

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Post by Harmonica Sat Apr 09, 2016 9:39 pm

Nah not even close, Messi and Neymar are more important. You are basing your opinion on toughest venue for Barca, where Barca haven't won since Iniesta had hair. MSN are tired and Suarez actually is resting at home lmao. He actually was the worst player for Barca today.
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Post by Pedram Sat Apr 09, 2016 9:46 pm

Suarez is definitely more important than Messi and Neymar, look at how many crucial goals he scored for them last season. Barca probably wouldn't have won the treble if they didn't have Suarez.
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Post by CM Pep Sat Apr 09, 2016 9:59 pm

Suarez importance shows because of the Barca system, of which Messi & Neymar are a part.

Suarez is the missing piece in Barca's tactic, but he needs the rest of the puzzle to actually be the missing piece.

Against elite opponents though, Messi's absence will be just as evident as Suarez's. Messi plays those impossible balls from deep that our other midfielders will definitely not be able to play, in part because they will never draw so many players to them in the first place. Not to mention how Munir will never be able to combine that well on the counter with Suarez or Neymar.

The least important imo is Neymar. He is a much better player than Munir but does not tactically offer much more. He's just (miles) better at the role than Munir.
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Post by Kebab Sat Apr 09, 2016 9:59 pm

At the moment yes, he is in better form than Messi and Neymar who both didnt dribble a player since Villareal game. But if all three is in form messi and neymar are more important.
His importance is opening space for other more important messi and neymar. His movement is intelligent, he can attract players. he is aggressive, be it fighting or cheating he always finds a way to destroy opposite defense
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Post by Art Morte Sat Apr 09, 2016 10:04 pm

Isn't Suarez leading both goals and assists for Barca in La Liga? There's your answer.
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Post by Harmonica Sat Apr 09, 2016 10:08 pm

nazimali12 wrote:At the moment yes, he is in better form than Messi and Neymar who both didnt dribble a player since Villareal game. But if all three is in form messi and neymar are more important.
His importance is opening space for other more important messi and neymar. His movement is intelligent, he can attract players. he is aggressive, be it fighting or cheating he always finds a way to destroy opposite defense
Messi has dribbled 10, Neymar 7 and Suarez 2 players since Villarreal games, excluding WCQ games. Suarez has also been the worst player in last three La Liga games from MSN. He's not in better form, nor is he performing better in any way, even against Atletico he was probably worst of the three.
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Post by FennecFox7 Sat Apr 09, 2016 10:09 pm

Start posting sources or no one will take you seriously buddy
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Post by McAgger Sat Apr 09, 2016 10:11 pm

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Post by Harmonica Sat Apr 09, 2016 10:16 pm

Art Morte wrote:Isn't Suarez leading both goals and assists for Barca in La Liga? There's your answer.
Not really,

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Post by CM Pep Sat Apr 09, 2016 10:19 pm

And how is the MOTM ranked? If I'm not mistaken. Barcaforum takes fan polls right?
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Post by Harmonica Sat Apr 09, 2016 10:21 pm

CM Pep wrote:And how is the MOTM ranked? If I'm not mistaken. Barcaforum takes fan polls right?
Yeah, it's basicly same as what OP is asking, but in no kneejerk form.
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Post by McAgger Sat Apr 09, 2016 10:22 pm

Harmonica wrote:
Art Morte wrote:Isn't Suarez leading both goals and assists for Barca in La Liga? There's your answer.
Not really,


What do you mean not really. Your graphic shows Suarez having both more goals and assists than the other two.
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Post by Harmonica Sat Apr 09, 2016 10:23 pm

Don't call me James wrote:
Harmonica wrote:
Art Morte wrote:Isn't Suarez leading both goals and assists for Barca in La Liga? There's your answer.
Not really,


What do you mean not really. Your graphic shows Suarez having both more goals and assists than the other two.
Not really as "there's your answer", beucase it's completely wrong conclusion.


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Post by CM Pep Sat Apr 09, 2016 10:24 pm

Harmonica wrote:
CM Pep wrote:And how is the MOTM ranked? If I'm not mistaken. Barcaforum takes fan polls right?
Yeah, it's basicly same as what OP is asking, but in no kneejerk form.


I think the only think that proves is that Messi is more the "People's Champ" (whatever that is) than Suarez.

In no way is fan polls the answer to the OP's question.
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Post by Harmonica Sat Apr 09, 2016 10:26 pm

CM Pep wrote:
Harmonica wrote:
CM Pep wrote:And how is the MOTM ranked? If I'm not mistaken. Barcaforum takes fan polls right?
Yeah, it's basicly same as what OP is asking, but in no kneejerk form.


I think the only think that proves is that Messi is more the "People's Champ" (whatever that is) than Suarez.

In no way is fan polls the answer to the OP's question.
OP is asking people's opinions, I gave people's collective and timely opinions of the season.
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Post by FennecFox7 Sat Apr 09, 2016 10:28 pm

Harmonica wrote:
Don't call me James wrote:
Harmonica wrote:
Not really,


What do you mean not really. Your graphic shows Suarez having both more goals and assists than the other two.
Not really as "there's your answer", beucase it's completely wrong conclusion.


What the hell are you smoking. Suarez has more goals and assists and the minutes played are minimal more if any.
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Post by CM Pep Sat Apr 09, 2016 10:29 pm

Harmonica wrote:
CM Pep wrote:
Harmonica wrote: Yeah, it's basicly same as what OP is asking, but in no kneejerk form.


I think the only think that proves is that Messi is more the "People's Champ" (whatever that is) than Suarez.

In no way is fan polls the answer to the OP's question.
OP is asking people's opinions, I gave people's collective and timely opinions of the season.


Ok Laughing

But by posting the question on GL isn't he asking GL opinion?

I request you to figure out the overlap of the number of members who are on Barcaforum & GL both so that we have a better picture.
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Post by Harmonica Sat Apr 09, 2016 10:31 pm

FennecFox7 wrote:
Harmonica wrote:
Don't call me James wrote:


What do you mean not really. Your graphic shows Suarez having both more goals and assists than the other two.
Not really as "there's your answer", beucase it's completely wrong conclusion.


What the hell are you smoking. Suarez has more goals and assists and the minutes played are minimal more if any.
What's your education level, because there's your answer. Most goals and assists ≠ better player.
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Post by Harmonica Sat Apr 09, 2016 10:32 pm

CM Pep wrote:
Harmonica wrote:
CM Pep wrote:


I think the only think that proves is that Messi is more the "People's Champ" (whatever that is) than Suarez.

In no way is fan polls the answer to the OP's question.
OP is asking people's opinions, I gave people's collective and timely opinions of the season.


Ok Laughing

But by posting the question on GL isn't he asking GL opinion?

I request you to figure out the overlap of the number of members who are on Barcaforum & GL both so that we have a better picture.
Not really no, as anyone can register and asnwer to it.
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Post by CM Pep Sat Apr 09, 2016 10:33 pm

Harmonica wrote:
CM Pep wrote:
Harmonica wrote:
OP is asking people's opinions, I gave people's collective and timely opinions of the season.


Ok Laughing

But by posting the question on GL isn't he asking GL opinion?

I request you to figure out the overlap of the number of members who are on Barcaforum & GL both so that we have a better picture.
Not really no, as anyone can register and asnwer to it.


And how many on GL have done so? Your stat is misleading in this argument.
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Post by Harmonica Sat Apr 09, 2016 10:35 pm

CM Pep wrote:
Harmonica wrote:
CM Pep wrote:


Ok Laughing

But by posting the question on GL isn't he asking GL opinion?

I request you to figure out the overlap of the number of members who are on Barcaforum & GL both so that we have a better picture.
Not really no, as anyone can register and asnwer to it.


And how many on GL have done so? Your stat is misleading in this argument.
This is now just a silly conversation. You're supposedly a Barca fan, yet you try your best to argue against Barcaforum's opinion. What you're really trying to say between the lines is, that you're a Suarez fanboy and fake Barcelona fan. We have plenty of those so you'll actually fit in.
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Post by CM Pep Sat Apr 09, 2016 10:39 pm

Harmonica wrote:
CM Pep wrote:
Harmonica wrote:
Not really no, as anyone can register and asnwer to it.


And how many on GL have done so? Your stat is misleading in this argument.
This is now just a silly conversation. You're supposedly a Barca fan, yet you try your best to argue against Barcaforum's opinion. What you're really trying to say between the lines is, that you're a Suarez fanboy and fake Barcelona fan. We have plenty of those so you'll actually fit in.


Laughing Laughing Laughing

And Barcaforum is the be all and end all? And how am I arguing against their opinion? I'm just saying your stat is irrelevant here.

If RealGunner is asking the GL members about Suarez, why pull out Barcaforum stats?
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Post by Guest Sat Apr 09, 2016 10:44 pm

Harmonica wrote:[
What the hell are you smoking. Suarez has more goals and assists and the minutes played are minimal more if any.
What's your education level, because there's your answer. Most goals and assists ≠ better player.[/quote]

What is your education level? The OP asked who is the most important player, not who is the better player...

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