Real Madrid vs FC Barcelona | La Liga Matchday 26 | Sat March 2nd

I don't like Roura very much

Hmmm. Great. So basically now i just hope we do not loose this league. And I am dead serious about this!

we would have to lose 5 more games before can we lose La Liga which is very unlikely.
poor game by everyone once again this team needs a drastic change, or defence is horrible.

Our last 4 games : L W L L.

Donuts wrote:we would have to lose 5 more games before can we lose La Liga which is very unlikely.
poor game by everyone once again this team needs a drastic change, or defence is horrible.

well the way we are playing right now, i see many teams grinding results against us.

gondov wrote:


Prediction: Barca 1 - Real 2

Our play has become so predictable and so are the results.

I saw the Milan and the 2 madrid losses coming from a mile away. Ofc , it not that hard, with such a defence.

The only positive for me in this match was cesc not playing.

This is embarrassing

It's like we are Real Madrid from the past 4 years minus we don't have a world class manager at the moment and they did

Felt bad for Messi. Guy is sick and asked to play. Wasn't even visible the 2nd half

It would be embarrassing if we had a manager.

Clearly Roura wasn't up to the task and we should have gotten a manager till the end of the season or till Tito got back.

Hindsight is 20/20.

At this point I'm not surprised anymore. Not even the obvious penalty denial surprised me

Just gotta say a big well done to Barcelona board. Out of 6 goals conceded in the three recent classicos, 3 of them have been from corners.

And you sign Song...I mean you can laugh all you want at Madrid churning out €40 million on Flopdrić, but seriously...

Tito deserves credit for his record start in Laliga, otherwise we would be in BIG trouble at this stage of the season.

Roura should be fired asap.what a horrible coach

The key point for me today is the apprehension that we showed. A few months back teams including Real Madrid were so afraid of us dominating with the ball that they didn't even want to come out and play. Now the roles have reversed and we are really worried about their counter-attacks. Hence we played crazily conservative today with key players not even trying anything much and doing general time pass. To me it looked more like an intentional strategy rather than the players having a very poor game.

Now if such a strategy had worked to get a victory or at least a draw I wouldn't be too unhappy. The biggest problem for us right now is our defense which shall I say is our worst in twenty years. It's so hopeless that it seems like we could concede a goal from just about any counter attack or set piece. With such a defense a team can't even play conservative. So what the hell do we do now? I think I have run out of answers.

At the moment the way I see we have more chances of throwing away the league title than turning around the Milan tie. I am actually glad we don't have to play any more Classicos this season. Now all we need to do is the minimum needed to save the league title and then make good use of the summer, something we haven't done in many years.

Lastly Valdes, messing with the referee is worse than messing with your boss in office. There can only be one winner in such fights. Yes Iniesta also argued with him but he took the yellow card and then kept quiet. You on the other hand abused him and/or put your hands on him. So what happened after that. You saw a red card. What can happen now. He can lodge a major official complaint against you. What can happen then. You can get say a three match suspension. What happens after that. We play Pinto in several matches which means we risk losing the league title even more. Do you realize now what you have done? This match was already over and although we had deserved the penalty nothing could be done about it now. Still the gap remained 13 points and all you have done is almost ensured we throw off a few more points.

messixaviesta wrote: The biggest problem for us right now is our defense which shall I say is our worst in twenty years. It's so hopeless that it seems like we could concede a goal from just about any counter attack or set piece. With such a defense a team can't even play conservative. So what the hell do we do now? I think I have run out of answers.

I've been saying this for a while now. Barca's defense for the past 2 seasons has been absolutely horrible.

However, it's not only the defense that's a problem, Barca's offense has been equally at fault as well. Take Messi out of that line up and you are left with an average offense (in terms of goals).

-Pedro was never a player he was made out to be by some here. Just an average player who has been punching above his weight.

-Villa is simply not suited to Barca's system.

- Iniesta and Xavi are only a "5 goals per season" type of players.

messixaviesta wrote: The biggest problem for us right now is our defense which shall I say is our worst in twenty years. It's so hopeless that it seems like we could concede a goal from just about any counter attack or set piece. With such a defense a team can't even play conservative. So what the hell do we do now? I think I have run out of answers.

I don't think that is true. IMO to play conservative you don't need a teem full of baresi's, ofc it would help but it's not the be-all and end-all. I mean, remember the 5-0 win over Real Madrid and then 4 months later with the same team, they could play catenaccio to perfection?

harhar11 wrote:

messixaviesta wrote: The biggest problem for us right now is our defense which shall I say is our worst in twenty years. It's so hopeless that it seems like we could concede a goal from just about any counter attack or set piece. With such a defense a team can't even play conservative. So what the hell do we do now? I think I have run out of answers.

I don't think that is true. IMO to play conservative you don't need a teem full of baresi's, ofc it would help but it's not the be-all and end-all. I mean, remember the 5-0 win over Real Madrid and then 4 months later with the same team, they could play catenaccio to perfection?

You do realize that these past 2 games, Madrid had way more shots on target than Barca, right?

Right now Barca are playing anti-football.

Brady2Moss wrote:

harhar11 wrote:

messixaviesta wrote: The biggest problem for us right now is our defense which shall I say is our worst in twenty years. It's so hopeless that it seems like we could concede a goal from just about any counter attack or set piece. With such a defense a team can't even play conservative. So what the hell do we do now? I think I have run out of answers.

I don't think that is true. IMO to play conservative you don't need a teem full of baresi's, ofc it would help but it's not the be-all and end-all. I mean, remember the 5-0 win over Real Madrid and then 4 months later with the same team, they could play catenaccio to perfection?

You do realize that these past 2 games, Madrid had way more shots on target than Barca with less possession, right?

Right now Barca are playing anti-football.

And why do you think that is???

Might it be because Barca defends with 2-3 defender at most while Real Madrid defends with 10 players, meaning that its pretty damn obvious that its easier to create chances for Madrid? Do you think that might have to do something with it? no? yes?

Samething happend against Milan and even Ambrosini said that the way Milan played might have been ugly to watch..

I seem a lot more optimistic than the rest here. Frankly I thought we played a lot better than 3 days ago and we could've walked with a draw if Masche could mark Benz or if Pique could cover Ramos in a set piece. I saw a lot more effort, pressing, movement, and overall a much more balanced team. Granted, we lost against Real's B team, which sucks, but I thought it was a step in the right direction.

I don't think we stand to lose the league. Mou built a team and a system designed to beat Barca, and when we lost the tactical edge he had the clear advantage. Unless we get a motivational drain from this I don't think it will translate to the rest of La Liga.

The Franchise wrote:Kizz (or anyone minus BC who's opinion is very clear) what do you think about Pedro?

harhar11 wrote:

Brady2Moss wrote:

harhar11 wrote:

I don't think that is true. IMO to play conservative you don't need a teem full of baresi's, ofc it would help but it's not the be-all and end-all. I mean, remember the 5-0 win over Real Madrid and then 4 months later with the same team, they could play catenaccio to perfection?

You do realize that these past 2 games, Madrid had way more shots on target than Barca with less possession, right?

Right now Barca are playing anti-football.

And why do you think that is???

Might it be because Barca defends with 2-3 defender at most while Real Madrid defends with 10 players? Do you think that might have to do something with it? no? yes?

Samething happend against Milan and even Ambrosini said that the way Milan played might have been ugly to watch..

No.

Barca defends with more players than that..it's just there are bad at defending.

Barca simply hoggs the ball with no real intention of attacking, just sideways and backward passing. Meanwhile, everytime Madrid receives the ball, they always rise up in numbers to attack. That's the reason they have more shots on target than Barca.

PS. Don't compare Madrid way of playing with Milan. It's way different. Milan just hoofed the ball towards El Sharaway, whilst Madrid actually cut through Barca's defense with quick and decisive passes.

Brady2Moss wrote:Don't compare Madrid way of playing with Milan. It's way different. Milan just hoofed the ball towards El Sharaway, whilst Madrid actually cut through Barca's defense with quick and decisive passes.

First of all Milan's first team costs 1/10 of Madrid's so called "B team". Second, there was no hoofball, Milan were simply playing a much more defensive approach which the stats confirm as they didn't let Barcelona a single chance in San Siro.

harhar11 wrote:I don't think that is true. IMO to play conservative you don't need a teem full of baresi's, ofc it would help but it's not the be-all and end-all. I mean, remember the 5-0 win over Real Madrid and then 4 months later with the same team, they could play catenaccio to perfection?

Nice point but please note that while we played conservative we still didn't park the bus. I don't think that is an option we would even consider. So essentially what I am saying is playing conservative with this defense is unlikely to work but you sure can park the bus with them which is something you can probably do with various other ordinary defenses as well.

danyjr wrote:

Brady2Moss wrote:Don't compare Madrid way of playing with Milan. It's way different. Milan just hoofed the ball towards El Sharaway, whilst Madrid actually cut through Barca's defense with quick and decisive passes.

First of all Milan's first team costs 1/10 of Madrid's so called "B team". Second, there was no hoofball, Milan were simply playing a much more defensive approach which the stats confirm as they didn't let Barcelona a single chance in San Siro.

We must have watched a different game, then.

Brady2Moss wrote:

harhar11 wrote:

Brady2Moss wrote:

You do realize that these past 2 games, Madrid had way more shots on target than Barca with less possession, right?

Right now Barca are playing anti-football.

And why do you think that is???

Might it be because Barca defends with 2-3 defender at most while Real Madrid defends with 10 players? Do you think that might have to do something with it? no? yes?

Samething happend against Milan and even Ambrosini said that the way Milan played might have been ugly to watch..

No.

Barca defends with more players than that..it's just there are bad at defending.

Barca simply hoggs the ball with no real intention of attacking, just sideways and backward passing. Meanwhile, everytime Madrid receives the ball, they always rise up in numbers to attack. That's the reason they have more shots on target than Barca.

PS. Don't compare Madrid way of playing with Milan. It's way different. Milan just hoofed the ball towards El Sharaway, whilst Madrid actually cut through Barca's defense with quick and decisive passes.

You are right, we don't defend with 2-3 players, we defend with 1. I'm sorry, I was wrong it wont happened again.

Just look at the one time Real Madrid defended with just 1 player, Messi scored . Now imagine if it would be like that all the time..

And lol at Milan hoofing the ball towards El Sharaway. As if El Sharaway would have any chance against Pique or Puyol..

I dont really see what has the coach anything to do with our recent losses tbh. Its the players who play the game. Same goes with Mou, now people tend to praise him when Real beat Barca 1-3, was it mou who scored those goals?

tactics and substition etc. I thought that Pedro was awful today and yet he waited until 80+ to subb him and give Tello only 10 min to play, when Tello >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Pedro+ Alexis this season..

BarrileteCosmico wrote:I seem a lot more optimistic than the rest here. Frankly I thought we played a lot better than 3 days ago and we could've walked with a draw if Masche could mark Benz or if Pique could cover Ramos in a set piece. I saw a lot more effort, pressing, movement, and overall a much more balanced team. Granted, we lost against Real's B team, which sucks, but I thought it was a step in the right direction.

I don't think we stand to lose the league. Mou built a team and a system designed to beat Barca, and when we lost the tactical edge he had the clear advantage. Unless we get a motivational drain from this I don't think it will translate to the rest of La Liga.

I agree, especially with the 2nd paragraph. Mourinho's team and tactics is custom built specifically to beat barca. If we're in horrible form, that's only going to add to their chances of winning. They've struggled against many other, arguably smaller sides. However when they play barca, it's a different story. Passion can definitely play a role after suffering for many years.

We need that passion back. Maybe a couple losses can help.

It was all Cesc's fault!

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