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Post by danyjr on Mon Sep 21, 2020 3:37 pm

Bethesda are far more than Fallout mate.

  • Elder Scrolls
  • Fallout
  • Doom
  • Dishonored
  • Deathloop
  • Wolfenstein
  • The Evil Within
  • Prey
  • Rage
  • The Evil Within
  • Quake
  • Starfield

A lot of good games on this list, whether you like it or not. This is a power move from Microsoft.

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Post by Great Leader Sprucenuce on Mon Sep 21, 2020 3:42 pm

Oh so now we're including games in lists we've all criticised conveniently.

That's cool, also you added a game twice and two games which aren't even released yet..
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Post by danyjr on Mon Sep 21, 2020 3:53 pm

They also own Obsidian. New Vegas 2? hmm
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Post by M99 on Mon Sep 21, 2020 3:54 pm

@Freeza wrote:
@Great Leader Sprucenuce wrote:Microsoft have acquired Bethesda.

People are gonna make a big deal out of this but i genuinely don't care lol.

I've never enjoyed a Bethesda RPG so that basically leaves just Doom that i play and enjoy.


Well, they're going to make a big deal out of it because it is a big deal lol



Its a massive deal. They now own so many popular and acclaimed IPs. Sequel to Elder Scrolls will have Red Dead 2 levels of hype, Fallout is still highly popular, Wolfenstein 3 and Doom 3 will also be coming on the back of acclaimed predecessors. Then you have talented studios like Arkane who can make a Dishonored 3 or more new IPs like Deathloop.

Yo with Obsidian and Bethesda under the same umbrella again maybe we'll see another Obsidian Fallout game. Maybe those New Orleans concept art is gonna come into fruition after all these years after all.
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Post by Great Leader Sprucenuce on Mon Sep 21, 2020 3:55 pm

@danyjr wrote:They also own Obsidian.


Who Xbox? I already said i care way more about the Obsidian purchase than i do about this.

Because they don't have a recent history of making underwhelming games that people are sweeping under the rug now because it suits them.
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Post by danyjr on Mon Sep 21, 2020 3:57 pm

@Great Leader Sprucenuce wrote:Oh so now we're including games in lists we've all criticised conveniently.

That's cool, also you added a game twice and two games which aren't even released yet..
Don't remember many criticising Doom, Dishonored, Wolfenstein and Prey. I played and loved all of them. Personally didn't enjoy the new Fallout/Elder Scrolls games but they sold like hot cakes and will continue to do so.
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Post by Great Leader Sprucenuce on Mon Sep 21, 2020 4:02 pm

Doom is the only one which has released since Fallout 4 to quality acclaim and the only one which deserves to be left out of this conversation.

You may choose to forget all the criticism Bethesda has come under in the last 5 years but i won't.
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Post by Great Leader Sprucenuce on Mon Sep 21, 2020 4:04 pm

It's funny as hell really, the same people who have been shitting on Bethesda over lasy 5 years are the same people losing their mind over this deal acting like they've been putting out bangers in the same time frame.

I suppose it's too much to ask the internet to have some self respect.
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Post by M99 on Mon Sep 21, 2020 4:07 pm

Wolfenstein 2 and Dishonored 2 have similar ratings to Doom Eternal. Like maybe a two point difference in average.
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Post by rincon on Mon Sep 21, 2020 4:27 pm

Sucks that Fallout, Dishonored, and TES aren't going to be on PS5. Definitely a huge move, don't see why deny it.
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Post by Myesyats on Mon Sep 21, 2020 5:01 pm

Dishonored is the only bethesda game I enjoyed really, they can go suck a dick honestly don't care

Skyrim/other TES/Fallout was decent but overhyped massively. Bethesda is great at making forgettable games.
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Post by M99 on Mon Sep 21, 2020 5:30 pm

Aye, GOTY winners, highly reviewed, one of the best selling games, multiple remasters which still sell boatloads = forgettable Laughing

Personally not liking is one thing, saying they were forgettable is laughable.
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Post by Great Leader Sprucenuce on Mon Sep 21, 2020 5:31 pm

@rincon wrote:Sucks that Fallout, Dishonored, and TES aren't going to be on PS5. Definitely a huge move, don't see why deny it.


Because they've been consistently criticized for the last 5 years, yes they are exceptions. I enjoyed Doom Eternal very much but people are now going crazy while they've been criticising that same company.

Everyone is a bunch of hypocrites or have the memories of gold fish. You pick.
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Post by Freeza on Mon Sep 21, 2020 5:41 pm

@M99 wrote:Aye, GOTY winners, highly reviewed, one of the best selling games, multiple remasters which still sell boatloads = forgettable Laughing

Personally not liking is one thing, saying they were forgettable is laughable.


I've never even played any of these games, and the fact I know all these properties is really incredibly valuable. It's so hard to get recognisable IP and they bought a lot of it here, properties who have a lot of hardcore fans.
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Post by RealGunner on Mon Sep 21, 2020 6:09 pm

@rincon wrote:Sucks that Fallout, Dishonored, and TES aren't going to be on PS5. Definitely a huge move, don't see why deny it.


Fallout and ES6 will definitely be on PS5. Timed exclusive at worst.

Most likely Bethesda will be making some new IPs for them or some of the smaller games like Dishonoured or Doom or Wolfenstein will be exclusive.

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Post by RealGunner on Mon Sep 21, 2020 6:09 pm

Lol people begging sony to buy Konami or Rockstar Laughing
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Post by Pedram on Mon Sep 21, 2020 6:53 pm

Damn Microsoft really swinging that trillion dollar dick at Sony.
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Post by M99 on Mon Sep 21, 2020 7:19 pm

@Great Leader Sprucenuce wrote:
@rincon wrote:Sucks that Fallout, Dishonored, and TES aren't going to be on PS5. Definitely a huge move, don't see why deny it.


Because they've been consistently criticized for the last 5 years, yes they are exceptions. I enjoyed Doom Eternal very much but people are now going crazy while they've been criticising that same company.

Everyone is a bunch of hypocrites or have the memories of gold fish. You pick.


The criticism has been for Fallout 76 which was an utter disaster and the shameless milking of Skyrim instead of a new Elder Scrolls game this gen. FO76 was a failed experiment and they'll stay away from online after that. There is nothing to suggest they have become subpar and games like Elder Scrolls VI and Starfield will be shit. They are gonna be available Day 1 on Gamepass and potentially could be exclusives which is huge.

Besides games they published like Dishonored 2, Doom, Doom Eternal, Wolfenstein 2 faced the opposite of criticism, they are all well liked in the gaming community. Wolfenstein Youngblood is a recent flop but no one was really bothered that much by it because it was a spin off like Old Blood and another failed experiment, this time in co-op. All in all they are still a big gaming company with talented devs and popular IPs.
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Post by danyjr on Mon Sep 21, 2020 8:07 pm

Youngblood wasn't bad. People were expecting it to be like New Order/New Colossus whereas it was a spin-off non-AAA title with the price to match (€25 at launch time on Steam). Most negativity came from the incel community not wanting to play as women.
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Post by Babun on Mon Sep 21, 2020 9:52 pm

As a PC gamer, I'm going to enjoy those game pass "exclusives" Laughing
Mole is right though, Bethesda has been struggling as of late to produce grand games like before. Fallout 76 was a huge flop. I hope Microsoft is going to clean up the mess over there so they can produce great games again.
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Post by M99 on Mon Sep 21, 2020 10:53 pm

Xbox potentially could be THE console for RPGs.

Avowed, Starfield, Elder Scrolls VI, new Fable, Outer Worlds 2, new Fallout...

But RG is right. Bethesda won't wanna miss out on the millions of PS5 gamers and will probably make timed exclusives.
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Post by Babun on Tue Sep 22, 2020 11:23 am

Scalpers failed to buy off all of the XSXs, in that sense 1:0 for Microsoft.
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Post by Harmonica on Tue Sep 22, 2020 12:09 pm

@Babun wrote:As a PC gamer, I'm going to enjoy those game pass "exclusives" Laughing
Mole is right though, Bethesda has been struggling as of late to produce grand games like before. Fallout 76 was a huge flop. I hope Microsoft is going to clean up the mess over there so they can produce great games again.
Yeah I did chuckle to the news. Smile For gamers this is a good thing, Sony also stating more exclusives to PC's, we're back on track on developing revolutionary games again, rather than scripted cut scene movies.

And Bethesda hasn't produced single proper game since FO4, so hopefully this will put them back track.
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Post by danyjr on Tue Sep 22, 2020 12:14 pm

@Harmonica wrote:
@Babun wrote:As a PC gamer, I'm going to enjoy those game pass "exclusives" Laughing
Mole is right though, Bethesda has been struggling as of late to produce grand games like before. Fallout 76 was a huge flop. I hope Microsoft is going to clean up the mess over there so they can produce great games again.
Yeah I did chuckle to the news. Smile For gamers this is a good thing, Sony also stating more exclusives to PC's, we're back on track on developing revolutionary games again, rather than scripted cut scene movies.

And Bethesda hasn't produced single proper game since FO4, so hopefully this will put them back track.
Honestly if Sony bring their exclusives to PC (I don't care if I have to wait a year or two even), I will 100% not purchase a plebstation this time round. There is nothing it can do better than my 2 years old PC.
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Post by Harmonica on Tue Sep 22, 2020 12:31 pm

@danyjr wrote:
@Harmonica wrote:
@Babun wrote:As a PC gamer, I'm going to enjoy those game pass "exclusives" Laughing
Mole is right though, Bethesda has been struggling as of late to produce grand games like before. Fallout 76 was a huge flop. I hope Microsoft is going to clean up the mess over there so they can produce great games again.
Yeah I did chuckle to the news. Smile For gamers this is a good thing, Sony also stating more exclusives to PC's, we're back on track on developing revolutionary games again, rather than scripted cut scene movies.

And Bethesda hasn't produced single proper game since FO4, so hopefully this will put them back track.
Honestly if Sony bring their exclusives to PC (I don't care if I have to wait a year or two even), I will 100% not purchase a plebstation this time round. There is nothing it can do better than my 2 years old PC.
What are Sony exclusives? Since the first PS, only game I've always wanted to play is Gran Tourismo, that's it. I don't care about the RDR or GTA delays either, they're still superior versions on PC.
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Post by danyjr on Tue Sep 22, 2020 1:16 pm

Admittedly there are a few, but not as many as it used to be.

There are Japanese games which personally I'm not interested in, like Yakuza, Persona or Bloodborne.

Then there is the likes of Spider-Man, Tsushima and God of War which I am mildly interested in.

Naughty Dog games are the only ones that I consider must-plays. I can live without the rest.
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