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Post by Mr Nick09 Thu Sep 20, 2012 10:52 pm

an interesting one hmm

spare me the whole one is a CM, the other is a AM bs, best talent, brighter future, etc...?
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Post by Le Samourai Thu Sep 20, 2012 11:06 pm

The player he reminds me the most of is Iniesta.

There's something just intrinsically amazing about his touch and dribbling that you really can't quantify.In terms of pure attacking talent those 2 aspects of Isco's game really just stand out , they put him in a very select level in terms of "talent".

All other aspects of his game still need to be developed.

Thiago meanwhile is a rounder player with more consistent ground passing and some who can assert discernible influence over games in any environment.He's much more mature at this stage of his career.

Now I really don't feel comfortable saying one is more "talented" than the other because different people value different things, all I can say is that in terms of explosiveness and the ability to create space for himself and others Isco is more impressive and in terms of movement ,passing and controlling games Thiago has an advantage.

How they develop matters more than talent for both...I think isco certainly has more room for improvement.
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Post by DuringTheWar Thu Sep 20, 2012 11:17 pm

I liked isco ever since i seen him play for spains u19s a long time ago, he was a little wizard with the ball. But i havent thought hes looked at all as comfortable since then when playing for senior teams. Hes a box of tricks, but like le sam said thiago is more well rounded currently, and i think he will probably continue to be a more well rounded and influential player in the future
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Post by free_cat Fri Sep 21, 2012 1:22 pm

They are both awesome young players. It's hard to say which one is better at this point of their career. We will have to wait and see.
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Post by Great Leader Sprucenuce Fri Sep 21, 2012 3:15 pm

Nick who is better.... Xavi or Iniesta ? because this is basically what your asking.

Isco and Thiago will probably be this generation's Xaviesta.

Spain's midfield will piss all over everyone for decades to come Laughing
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Post by RealGunner Fri Sep 21, 2012 3:32 pm

Should have bid for Isco along Cazorla. Now he will be worth 25m
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Post by DuringTheWar Fri Sep 21, 2012 3:48 pm

They're both good, but i gotta say i dont think either of them are going to get close to xavi or iniesta. Spain will continue to be a goat team but i dont think they are gonna keep their current level
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Post by Mr Nick09 Fri Sep 21, 2012 4:06 pm

RealGunner wrote:Should have bid for Isco along Cazorla. Now he will be worth 25m

I think his release clause is still 20m, unless he signed a new contract.

@Mole, both Iniesta and Xavi are CMs, and although they play completely different roles, you can theoretically compare them.

But i understand what you mean. i was just as to which player you think has more room for improvement and a brighter future. Which would be more influential for Spain for example.
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Post by Ganso Fri Sep 21, 2012 4:11 pm

Xavi and Thiago arent similar imo,Thiago is much more of a Iniesta if you ask me
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Post by halamadrid2 Fri Sep 21, 2012 4:22 pm

Isco is much better

plus they have slightly different roles, Thiago is defensively inept so don't think he can take over from Xavi when he retires, as for Isco upwards and onwards for the kid just phenominal
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Post by Valkyrja Fri Sep 21, 2012 6:00 pm

Thiago isn't a general like Xavi, he's more like Iniesta, he's no way a CM with great awareness, defensive skills and composure like Xavi. His best assets are his dribbling(best in Barca after Messi and Iniesta) and close control.
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Post by Great Leader Sprucenuce Fri Sep 21, 2012 6:37 pm

Defensively inept( he's been used in Busquets role before and excelled ffs), doesn't have great awareness or composure, best assets his dribbling....

When will these myths end?

While it's true when Thiago first came through he might have been direct and constantly dribble when he should have passed, look for the hollywood through ball rather than keep it simple.

It really isn't the case any more, he his calm and composed and dictates games better than anyone at Barca apart from Xavi.

Do people actually watch him or just pay attention to myths?

He has been deployed in the midfield general role for a long time now and bossing at it.

Because he can dribble which he doesn't use as much any more he's understand the role a lot more doesn't mean he's like Iniesta.

He is nothing like Iniesta, all his best work is done from a deep position dominating and linking play because he has dribbling in his locker don't mean he can't do this.

If Thiago is nothing like Xavi and most like Iniesta you guys better tell Pep and Tito because they both have earmarked him as Xavi's successor and both deploy him in Xavi's role.....

But i guess because he has the ability to dribble he can never be a CM.

Poor Thiago Sad

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Post by halamadrid2 Fri Sep 21, 2012 7:37 pm

lol Thiago IS defensively inept mate

Guy is like a Spanish Song ffs, you see him by the opposition box all the time despite the whole team running back to retrieve a ball, he isn't that good at dribbling either... it will be hard for him to start playing for Barca regularly because they will become even more vulnerable then than they are right now
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Post by gondov Fri Sep 21, 2012 9:47 pm

Thiago isn't that strong defensively yet, but he is much more better than Isco on this aspect anyway. And as he gains more experience and improves in his decision, he'll improve just like xavi has also done.

Thiago can easly replace xavi. Its not like if xavi leaves, thiago will replace him in a midfield containing sergi rorbeto and JDS or something.

He'll join , iniesta, cesc and especially busquets, who have bags of experience. Therefore his faults will be covered as he gradually makes the position his. Xavi has like 2 or 3 more years and so thiago will have spend like 5 years learning from the master.

As for Isco, he didnt impress me that much at the Olympics and the U21s. Compared to thiago he is more like the star of the team at Malaga and has more influence in the team.

Personally, I'd take thiago over him because he is capable of controlling the game more than Isco. Isco can have bursts of magic but can be shut out of a game, just like Hazard. Thiago is someone who I think can assert himself on a game and raise everyone in his team. Basically I'm trying to say is its harder to shut thiago out if a game than Isco.


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Post by Mr Nick09 Fri Sep 21, 2012 10:54 pm

Thiago is not spending 2 or 3 more years in Xavi' shadow, just my opinion, talent like that will ask out to grow on his own. But that's another debate...
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Post by Ganso Fri Sep 21, 2012 10:59 pm

Its not just Xavi,there is also Cesc...he wont be able to be an actual starter until he is on his mid 20s
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Post by Valkyrja Fri Sep 21, 2012 11:10 pm

He is better than Cex
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Post by Swanhends Fri Sep 21, 2012 11:37 pm

Doesn't Thiago have to play more than once every lunar cycle for this to be a fair comparison? :I'munoriginal:
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Post by Mr Nick09 Fri Sep 21, 2012 11:44 pm

He just returned from injuries but he had a fair share of games last season no?
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Post by Onyx Sat Sep 22, 2012 12:20 am

Thiago is more of an Iniesta type player, although he can play Xavi's role. I'm sure Thiago wants the Iniesta role, which has more freedom. Someone like Banega would suit Xavi's role better.

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Post by free_cat Mon Sep 24, 2012 8:54 am

Thiago is not defensively inept. He is actually much better than Xavi or Iniesta defending.
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