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Post by Onyx Tue Jun 07, 2011 12:50 pm

So how do you think Spain should lineup for Euro 2012 ?

------------------Casillas
-----Ramos---Pique---Puyol---Capdevila/Arbeloa
-----------------Busquets/Alonso
-------------- Xavi---Iniesta
-----Villa-------------------Silva/Pedro/Navas/Santi
-----------------Llorente/Negredo/Torres


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Post by Wilson37 Tue Jun 07, 2011 12:58 pm

I think both Alonso and Busquets will be playing...
Also want to see Navas in place for Pedro...
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Post by tahaa89 Thu Jun 09, 2011 12:58 pm

I think Spain should play a 4-2-3-1 like so --

--------------------Casilas--------------------
S.Ramos----Puyol------Pique-------Arbeloa
-------------X.Alonso---Xavi-----------------
Silva--------------Iniesta----------------Villa
--------------------Torres--------------------

I just suggested the same think to the Italians. It seems very positive and should work. If Torres still not in-form by then, use Villa upfront and put Pedro or Cazorla on the left.
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Post by Magricos Tue Oct 11, 2011 5:19 am

Valdes is starting tomorrow. Should he be ahead of Reina ?

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Post by Mano911 Thu Dec 08, 2011 5:26 pm

------------------Casillas.......................
-----Ramos---Pique---Puyol---Arbeloa..
-----------------Alonso..........................
-------------- Xavi---Iniesta...................
-----Villa-------------------Silva............
-----------------Torres..........................
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Post by raulmadrid4vr Sun Dec 18, 2011 6:36 pm

-------------------villa---------------------
iniesta---------------------------------silva
------------------xavi----------------------
------------alonso-----busquets------------
arbeloa-------------------------------ramos
-------------pique--------puyol-------------
------------------casillas-------------------
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Post by gervinho's forehead Tue Jan 03, 2012 4:38 pm

Iker in goal without a doubt
defence Ramos Pique Puyol Alba
midfield Alonso Martinez
attacking midfield navas xavi ineasta
foward villa
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Post by DuringTheWar Wed Jan 04, 2012 3:41 pm

busquets ahead of alonso definately
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Post by Valkyrja Wed Feb 15, 2012 9:02 am

----------------Casillas---------------
--Arbeloa--Pique-Ramos--Enrique
-----------Alonso-Bosquets--------
--Silva---------Xavi-----------Iniesta--
--------------Callejon------------
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Post by Arquitecto Wed Feb 15, 2012 9:21 am

4-2-3-1
Iker
Iraola-Pique-Puyi-Enrique
Busi-Alonso
Iniesta-Xavi-Silva
Villa

Extremely tough decision as this isn't based on form or injuries but capability and optimum choice.

For Iker my replacement would be Reina, Ramos for Puyi, Vila for Enrique, Arteta for Alonso, Mata or Fabregas for Silva and Llorente for Villa.


I could go on all day.



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Post by guest7 Wed Feb 15, 2012 9:36 am

Iker
Ramos - Puyol - Pique - Alba
Busquets
Xavi -- Iniesta
Pedro ---- Soldado - Callejon

Callejon and Pedro becouse they both are wingers, we can see this season how Barca without wingers are suffering. You need these 2 guys to spread the width.

I think Soldado is a better goalscorer than Llorente... Really, you don't need more than that at CF for Spain. They have the best creativity in the world.
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Post by Mr Nick09 Wed Feb 15, 2012 12:58 pm

Lol @ you guys putting Callejon there, kid cant create his own shot. If you want a winger, play Iniesta wide on one side and Mata on the other, bench Alonso for Silva or Cesc
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Post by Ganso Wed Feb 15, 2012 1:02 pm

callejon,you kidding me?

what it should be imo:
-------------Iker--------------
Ramos - Puyol - Pique - Alba
----------Busquets------------
-------Xavi -- Iniesta---------
Mata ---- Soldado ----- Silva

what it will be imo:

Iker
Ramos-Pique-Puyi-Alba
-----Busi-Alonso--------
---Iniesta-Xavi-Silva----
--------Soldado----------

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Post by guest7 Wed Feb 15, 2012 1:39 pm

FYI Tiki taka doesn't work without 2 wingers. Both Iniesta and Mata (Mata is a poor winger in fact) can't do that. Look at Barca how they're suffering without wingers. Same goes for Spain. Especially now when they don't have Villa.

Did anyone see his pass to CR vs. Levante? Kid got talent. Let's unleash it! Very Happy
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Post by Ganso Wed Feb 15, 2012 1:43 pm

how is Mata a poor winger? Suspect
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Post by guest7 Wed Feb 15, 2012 1:48 pm

Nes-T33 wrote:how is Mata a poor winger? Suspect

He doesn't have the workrate of a winger. Very Happy Especially when tiki taka requires alot, and I mean alot of workrate. The LB/RB will be exposed.
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Post by S Wed Feb 15, 2012 1:52 pm

Anyone Noticed ?International Section has become more popular than the RB section.

Positive thing that has happened to the forum considering the trolling lately ? hmm

Anyways on Topic.My hypothetical lineup.

Casillas

Ramos-Pique-Puyol-Alba

Alonso-Busquets

Xavi

Silva-LLorente-Iniesta


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Post by Ganso Wed Feb 15, 2012 1:56 pm

Se7en wrote:
Nes-T33 wrote:how is Mata a poor winger? Suspect

He doesn't have the workrate of a winger. Very Happy Especially when tiki taka requires alot, and I mean alot of workrate. The LB/RB will be exposed.
well,mata does have a poor workrate indeed.

honestly though,Spain havent played tiki taka a la barca in a while,they are more direct nowadays for some reason
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Post by guest7 Wed Feb 15, 2012 1:59 pm

Well, in my lineup I suggested a tiki taka plan. Using the holy trio (Busquets, Xavi, Iniesta) and 2 wingers.

Then Soldado to finish it off. Also wanted to point out that both Pedro and Callejon does have a really good workrate. I think that is the biggest reason Mou likes him so much, he really provides cover for his LB. Very Happy
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Post by Mr Nick09 Wed Feb 15, 2012 2:02 pm

What's a tiki taka plan?
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Post by guest7 Wed Feb 15, 2012 2:29 pm

@Mr Nick09 wrote:What's a tiki taka plan?

You can't say that? Excuse my English then, I meant a proper tiki taka tactic (aka pass backline not be direct)
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Post by Adit Wed Feb 15, 2012 5:52 pm

Inesta silva on wings? Dont they need width at all?

Where are the Goal scorers? Even with 3 goalscorers they struggles to put the ball in the back of the net.

Playing such a narrow formation with out any 'great' attacking wingbacks?

Not a fan of that formation.

Silva and Iniesta both will drop deep in to midfield.
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Post by Le Samourai Wed Feb 15, 2012 10:05 pm

.....................Casillas..............
Ramos....Pique.......Puyol.........Enrique.
........................Busquets................
........................................Xabi
.................Xavi...............................
....Silva...................................Iniesta..
.........................Llorente.
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Post by Khaled Wed Feb 15, 2012 10:12 pm

Easy !

Casillas
Ramos Puyol Pique Alba
Xavi Busquets Iniesta
Silva Villa Mata

~ Bench/Reserve [12]: Valdes, Reina, Javi Martinez, Arbeloa, Alonso, Thiago, Cesc, Cazorla, Pedro, Llorente.

CB: Albiol or Botia or Victor Ruiz or Dominiguez ?
CF: Torres or Soldado ?


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Post by fatman123 Thu Feb 16, 2012 10:36 am

-------------Iker--------------
Ramos - Puyol - Pique - Alba
----------Alonso------------
-------Xavi -- Iniesta---------
Mata ---- Soldado ----- Silva

for me anyway
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