Re: Manchester United agree fee with Arsenal for Robin van Persie ( confirmed )

by Firenze Tue 14 Aug 2012 - 3:58

Welcome, Robin. :bow:

by Amar Tue 14 Aug 2012 - 3:58

The Sun

He's going nowhere, especially not to Utd

by McAgger Tue 14 Aug 2012 - 3:58

jibers wrote:
Messiah "Aggerswagger" wrote:Vidic soon to be 31 he only has 1-2 more years left max...let's hope it's in the treatment room and not on the field.

Next we will sign Kompany

No need to sign anyone, Johny Evans shall be ready for post Vidic takeover. Manchester United agree fee with Arsenal for Robin van Persie ( confirmed ) - Page 3 123n7r

Manchester United agree fee with Arsenal for Robin van Persie ( confirmed ) - Page 3 123n7r

by Raptorgunner Tue 14 Aug 2012 - 3:59

I am sure United have money to burn close to 70m on RVP. :bow:

by Raptorgunner Tue 14 Aug 2012 - 4:02

United will never see half of player RVP was last year, the entire Arsenal team fed him the ball and he missed 30 clear cut chances. Very Happy

by jibers Tue 14 Aug 2012 - 4:05

Messiah "Aggerswagger" wrote:
jibers wrote:
Messiah "Aggerswagger" wrote:Vidic soon to be 31 he only has 1-2 more years left max...let's hope it's in the treatment room and not on the field.

Next we will sign Kompany

No need to sign anyone, Johny Evans shall be ready for post Vidic takeover.

tbf after the city games he was our best CB by a mile. He is our second best cb after Vida. With time he will be good

by The Sanchez Tue 14 Aug 2012 - 4:07

Mods and Admins. Please ban me if this happens... :coffee:

in this summer transfer market... It won't happen... :facepalm:

by RealGunner Tue 14 Aug 2012 - 4:09

by Raptorgunner Tue 14 Aug 2012 - 4:18

RealGunner wrote:22m

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by jibers Tue 14 Aug 2012 - 4:23

RealGunner wrote:22m

Straight into the owners pockets :bow:

DAT MISING

by Guest Tue 14 Aug 2012 - 4:31

pointless

by Raptorgunner Tue 14 Aug 2012 - 4:53

jibers wrote:
RealGunner wrote:22m

Straight into the owners pockets

DAT MISING

Beats losing 70m. :bow:

by Dutti Tue 14 Aug 2012 - 5:22

This isn't happening.

If it does....... :facepalm:

by The Sanchez Tue 14 Aug 2012 - 6:25

Dutti wrote:This isn't happening.

If it does.......

As I said, if this happens then I do wish an admin or moderator to ban me if he get sold to Man U this season...

by SchinnerC Tue 14 Aug 2012 - 11:34

I would like to kick SAF in the balls if this goes through. As a wake up call. Sign a MC FFS!!! Enough of this bullshit already. Why the hell would we need another striker??!!

by Great Leader Sprucenuce Tue 14 Aug 2012 - 12:10

cyberman wrote:Carrick had an exceptional year last year lol, how is he not good enough?

Ofcourse he's good enough, but he needs someone along side him, he can't do it all by himself.

Especially with Kagawa and Rooney in front of him Laughing

I expect to see the team i posted with Carrick and Scholes/Cleverly in the middle Rooney off RVP, Kagawa on the left but drifting inside a lot and Evra providing the width on the left.

With Nani or Young on the right if Valencia does play RB, if not then Rafeal at RB and Valencia or Nani on the right.

Seems a bit of unnecessary signing to me considering Fletcher and Scholes have still not been replaced as well as Evra and Neville not being replaced.

But what ever.

by MindGames7 Tue 14 Aug 2012 - 13:00

van Persie is just going to be a star name to sell shirts. He will (or at least should) end up being the fifth choice striker behind 1. Welbeck, 2. Kagawa, 3. Rooney, 4. Berbatov/Chicharito.

Mark my words, he'll be more of a flop than Berbatov.

And if he is picked ahead of the aformentioned players, then we'll have a worse season this year than we did last year.

You heard it here first.

by McLewis Tue 14 Aug 2012 - 13:05

Lost count of how many times I've seen Valencia referred to as a RB in this thread. Since when did this conversion happen? How did we go to talking about him as one of the top 10 best right-sided midfielders in the world to him replacing Rafael as a RB. Not every player has that in his locker, but with Valencia, I can believe it. Just find it odd that the shift in position has been so swift.

As for RVP.....waste of money honestly. Not his fault really, just not what they need right now.

by Amar Tue 14 Aug 2012 - 13:27

MindGames7 wrote:van Persie is just going to be a star name to sell shirts. He will (or at least should) end up being the fifth choice striker behind 1. Welbeck, 2. Kagawa, 3. Rooney, 4. Berbatov/Chicharito.

Mark my words, he'll be more of a flop than Berbatov.

And if he is picked ahead of the aformentioned players, then we'll have a worse season this year than we did last year.

You heard it here first.

I stopped reading when you classified Kagawa as a striker.

by MindGames7 Tue 14 Aug 2012 - 13:46

Amar wrote:I stopped reading when you classified Kagawa as a striker.

Well you were wrong to do that.

Kagawa is just 43% successful in his defensive actions, that's lower than Rooney, Ibrahimovic, van Persie, Ronaldo and David Villa to name a few.

45% of his shots are on target compared to van Persie's 51%, Rooney's 43%, Ibrahimovic's 46%, Ronaldo's 40% and David Villa's 48%.

84% of his short passes are successful compared to van Persie's 81%, Rooney's 82%, Ibra's 78%, Ronaldo's 82%, Villa's 85%.

No matter where you play him, he will always be a forward in my mind, because his attacking contribution is why he's in the team and his defensive contribution is poor. In fact, he's more of a forward than any of the players I've mentioned, not because of where he plays, but because of how he plays.

by S Tue 14 Aug 2012 - 14:00

I agree as well.I'd classify Kagawa as more of a forward than an Attacking midfielder.I believe Giovinco is in the same mold as Kagawa and Giovinco himself ,classifies himself as a forward.

by McLewis Tue 14 Aug 2012 - 14:39

MindGames7 wrote:
Amar wrote:I stopped reading when you classified Kagawa as a striker.

Well you were wrong to do that.

Kagawa is just 43% successful in his defensive actions, that's lower than Rooney, Ibrahimovic, van Persie, Ronaldo and David Villa to name a few.

45% of his shots are on target compared to van Persie's 51%, Rooney's 43%, Ibrahimovic's 46%, Ronaldo's 40% and David Villa's 48%.

84% of his short passes are successful compared to van Persie's 81%, Rooney's 82%, Ibra's 78%, Ronaldo's 82%, Villa's 85%.

No matter where you play him, he will always be a forward in my mind, because his attacking contribution is why he's in the team and his defensive contribution is poor. In fact, he's more of a forward than any of the players I've mentioned, not because of where he plays, but because of how he plays.

Classifies him more as an attacking midfielder than a centre-forward if you're going by the stats you posted. There are plenty who are classified in that same mold who are just as bad defensively, but just as good in the attack, and are still considered midfielders so there is plenty of wiggle room in between that and being a forward. If Kagawa's composure in front of goal gets consistent, then I can be pushed to call him a centre-forward, but he'll never be a true striker.