Manchester United agree fee with Arsenal for Robin van Persie ( confirmed )

MindGames7 wrote:

chemicalboy99 wrote:Anyways congrats today...I'm sure one of these desperation signings might close the gap slightly......might.

Our big name signings might be crap but it's ok because we're good at scouting good young players and turning them into stars, and that gives United more of a soul than City. I'd hate to be a fan of a team where all the players were bought in.

Our young players >>>>> your young players.

cyberman wrote:This is a sign of things to come
City crippled by the FFP rules can only buy English to fill the new quota rules while utd use non billionaire techniques to improve the squad

chemicalboy99 wrote:More of a soul?? I almost puked in my mouth.

AIG sponsored the 50th anniversary of the Munich disaster.

Soul less maybe.

There isn't anything as soulless as that.

Eh? Last time I checked your young players were playing for West Ham and Juventus.

MindGames7 wrote:

vivabarca38 wrote:INB4UnitedHateandArsenalfanssaytheywerebetteroffwithouthim

Arsenal will be better off without him. Wenger has spent the cash very wisely indeed. Song is a huge loss though.

MindGames7 wrote:Wayne Rooney said in september last year that we're trying to copy Barcelona's playing style.

Not by signing an extra striker, we're not...

Something fishy's going on here. I have a funny feeling that Berbatov might not be the striker leaving us this summer, and I'm not talking about Chicharito.

I predict Rooney OUT this summer.

Spoiler:

Swagg wrote:

MindGames7 wrote:Wayne Rooney said in september last year that we're trying to copy Barcelona's playing style.

Not by signing an extra striker, we're not...

Something fishy's going on here. I have a funny feeling that Berbatov might not be the striker leaving us this summer, and I'm not talking about Chicharito.

I predict Rooney OUT this summer.

LOL.. Why can't Rooney and RvP play together?

Spoiler:

MindGames7 wrote:Wayne Rooney said in september last year that we're trying to copy Barcelona's playing style.

Not by signing an extra striker, we're not...

Something fishy's going on here. I have a funny feeling that Berbatov might not be the striker leaving us this summer, and I'm not talking about Chicharito.

I predict Rooney OUT this summer.

cyberman wrote:

Dnmac4 wrote:It's true that City won on goal difference but even the most level headed of posters have to know that when your putting a team together with pretty much 11 new starters from 2-3 years ago it takes time to learn how to win and play together.

It took Jordan time to learn how to win the same goes for Lebron and Real didn't just snatch the league from Barca when they brought in all the new blood they did.

It takes time and now that City won it they will be much more dangerous. IT doesn't really matter how much they won it by, just that they got over the hump and won it.

City still has a better team but United have SAF and he is the wild card.

But please United fans you don't need to belittle City's EPL championship you should be above that they won fair and square and head to head they slaughtered you so it's OK to say good job see you next year you were the better team.

RVP is a great signing, I don't care if it's 24 mill or 15 mill either price for a top 10 striker in the world is a steal IMO. Congrats and it should be celebrated.

De gea
Jones
Smalling
Cleverly
Young
Welbeck

Our side had more players fitting in than city FFs, lack of experience isn't an excuse for practically being dead in the title race with 6 games to go

I can't wait for next year... Time to put certain people back in their place

MindGames7 wrote:Wayne Rooney said in september last year that we're trying to copy Barcelona's playing style.

Not by signing an extra striker, we're not...

Something fishy's going on here. I have a funny feeling that Berbatov might not be the striker leaving us this summer, and I'm not talking about Chicharito.

I predict Rooney OUT this summer.

MindGames7 wrote:

Swagg wrote:

MindGames7 wrote:Wayne Rooney said in september last year that we're trying to copy Barcelona's playing style.

Not by signing an extra striker, we're not...

Something fishy's going on here. I have a funny feeling that Berbatov might not be the striker leaving us this summer, and I'm not talking about Chicharito.

I predict Rooney OUT this summer.

LOL.. Why can't Rooney and RvP play together?

Spoiler:

Two big egos, two number 10s, two wasteful players, and Danny Welbeck is, or at least certainly will be, better than either of them. We play 4-5-1 in the big games and there's no way that both Rooney and van Persie would be happy in that situation.

Rooney just hasn't been the same since that year he announced he wanted to leave. And yeah Madrid or PSG, I think Rooney would prefer Barcelona but he wouldn't get into their team.

Dnmac4 wrote:What are you talking about? Rooney was excellent in the EPL last year I believe he had more goals in the EPL last year then any other year ever.

In fact he had 27 goals in 34 EPL games and was second in the league behind RVP in scoring. I think he ended the year with 34 goals in 41 appearances.

And he always drops back to play defense and help out in midfield. How can you say he hasn't been the same since he wanted to leave he was great last year.

_LMG_10_ wrote:The real question is, is Rooney really going to play behind RVP? How is this going to work?

cyberman wrote:Rooney has played in the hole for 2 seasons straight now

Dnmac4 wrote:

cyberman wrote:

Dnmac4 wrote:

cyberman wrote:Adding the best player from germany and the EPL to a squad that reached 3 finals in 4 years isn't a sign of competing with European best?

Am I missing something here? Its not as if the EPL has a recent history of deep runs in the cl FFs...
People need to remember who we are...

Uh first of all they did not add the best player from Germany or the EPL so I don't know where your getting that from. Kagawa and RVP were not the best players in either league last year or any year for that matter. RVP had a great year but just because you have one great year doesn't mean your the best player in the league.

And anyways it supports what I'm saying, he can't keep signing Chicharito, Bebe, Phil Jones, Smalling, Owen, Ashley Young, Valencia, De Gea (Although I think he is world class).

There all good players but not close to world class. They do what SAF asks them to do in his system very well but at the end of the day they just aren't keeping up with the players City, Madrid, Barca, Bayern etc have been signing and producing over the past few years.

That's why you see them getting knocked out of the CL last year in the group stage of one of the easiest groups I've ever seen and lose the league to City.

The signings these teams are making and the lack of world class players they have brought in caught up with them and it's the reason why they can't let Giggs or Scholes go because they need there class in the side because it has not been replaced.

SAF gets the max out of his players but you can't keep expecting him to lose players like Ronaldo, Tevez, Giggs, Scholes, Ferdinand(There not what they used to be), Vidic (Injured), Van Der Sar and even Evra isn't what he used to be etc etc and replace them with players that quite frankly are not the same caliber and keep wining the league and make these massive runs in the CL when there competition in Europe and especially in the EPL (City) are buying who ever they want.

That is why I like the RVP signing because he's bringing real world class quality to his side for 22 mill which is peanuts these days.

Sometimes it seems United fans don't realize what a luxury they have in having the decided tactical advantage almost every game with SAF in charge but every now and then he could use a World class player outside of Rooney and Vidic to dig him out of a hole or win a game just through there brilliance and not the system. Kind of like Yaya and Kun did for City last year to win the league.

Rvp was the best player in England from start to finish last year, it's a fact that cannot be argued. Kagawa was arguably in Germany, it's ok to argue with it but when you argue that we're snot signing world class players them you're using hindsight which is ridiculous,
If we were around when we signed vidic, would you have said he was a world class player when we signed him from Russia at 24 and our only competition for him was from fiorentina? We signed vds from fulham and tevez from west ham. ..not exactly top of rhe range clubs are they? Or are you looking back with perfect 20 / 20 vision?
Valencia was our best player last year, a player that guard oils called the best winger in Europe, why wouldn't we want another like him?
We lost the league last year in the last min v the most expensive squad in football history, a team that failed to get more points than us. Exactly how big do you think the gap was? Is the memory playing tricks?
You cannot take last years european campaign as the norm when we've had 7 odd years of cl consistent success before that. I mean how short sighted can you be?

LOL Short sighted? Last years team most accurately reflects this years team not the teams that made the finals of the CL 2 and 3 seasons ago as Giggs and Scholes have gotten older and there production has gone down and you have not replaced the world class players you lost that were on your team over those runs (Ronaldo and Tevez plus Berba just doesn't play for what ever reason not saying he's world class)

At one point Ferdinand, Scholes, Giggs, were all world class and Evra was pretty close but as of right now which we are talking about as the past means shit they are not anywhere near what they used to be plus they have not been replaced by world class players.

Yes Vidic was a great buy but give me a break on the Tevez from West Ham thing. IF you were a premface living in a cave then I could see how you might not have known how good Tevez was but anyone who watched any sort of football outside of the EPL knew it was just a matter of time until Tevez was on a major team. He was a beast in South America.

And last year is what you judged since it is obvious that Ashley Young, Phil Jones, Smalling, Bebe, Chicharito, Owen, Valencia (Who replaced Ronaldo FFS) etc etc are not world class and they never will be. So if you want to sit around and pretend that they are going to turn into Vidic and Tevez be my guest but it makes you look even more delusional.

I mean wake the F*** up. You can't replace Ronaldo and Tevez with Chicharito and Owen. After a while it catches up with you and last year is when the shit finally hit the fan for United. If you need a reminder watch either the game vs City or Bilbao and you can see that bringing in world class players was needed as they were totally out of there depth in both games.

Also, Kagawa cannot be argued as a world class player or the best player in Germany last year. Sorry, I don't care how in the bag you are for United but that statement makes you lose all credibility.

And BTW, I applauded the move for RVP so I don't know why your acting like with him coming in I'm saying your not signing world class players. I said over the past couple years you have not been which is fully accurate and that has down graded your team.

And if you want to pretend that last year was a fluke, go right ahead and that since the margin was close with City that your just as good as they are then fine think what you like. It's wrong but go ahead and think it.

SAF has a knack of getting maximum points out of EPL games and City was still learning how to win and gel as a team. So if you think that you have improved and City wont get better then be my guest but you're in for a big surprise.

And that is the reason I said RVP was a great signing because it is obvious to any reasonable football fan that there team last year was no longer able to win the league at a canter and be automatically in the final 4 of the CL.

Even when they reached the finals of the CL there was a massive gap between them and Barca and now with Madrid and Bayern getting better I Think there is a reasonable gap between them and United too and again that is why I applaud the RVP signing.

_LMG_10_ wrote:The real question is, is Rooney really going to play behind RVP? How is this going to work?

cyberman wrote:Apparently for 22m, big rumour going around tonight

Nani................rvp.............Valencia

...........Rooney ........kagawa........

...................carrick...........

With cleverly subbing for kagawa and welbeck for rvp

What a front 6, it's like we're cheating