Re: The Official Arsenal Summer Transfers/Rumours Thread

by MJ Sat 11 Aug - 0:55:52

srigooner wrote:
MJGunner wrote:Fabregas refuses to disrespect Arsenal by tapping up Song in Barcelona press conference.

"I'd rather not talk about possible trades, out of respect to Arsenal, a club that I love."

http://gossip.ladyarse.com/2012/08/fabregas-refuses-to-tap-up-song-in-barcelona-press-conference/

This is how a question from the media about another club's players is answered.

Good to see that despite sharing DNA with those lying thieving diving retards, there is some class still left in him from his days with us.

He learned football at Barcelona, learned to be a man at Arsenal Thumbs up

by SamuelJayC Sat 11 Aug - 0:58:40

For those wondering, Alex Song IS contracted until 2015

http://t.co/OqtHpzEl

by MJ Sat 11 Aug - 1:00:56

Samuelj29060 wrote:For those wondering, Alex Song IS contracted until 2015

http://t.co/OqtHpzEl

lol, no point at all in selling him then unless Wenger truly believes the team will be significantly better because of it. At this point, a week before the season starts I'd say yeah f-cking right.

by Sri Sat 11 Aug - 1:07:47

MJGunner wrote:
srigooner wrote:
MJGunner wrote:Fabregas refuses to disrespect Arsenal by tapping up Song in Barcelona press conference.

"I'd rather not talk about possible trades, out of respect to Arsenal, a club that I love."

http://gossip.ladyarse.com/2012/08/fabregas-refuses-to-tap-up-song-in-barcelona-press-conference/

This is how a question from the media about another club's players is answered.

Good to see that despite sharing DNA with those lying thieving diving retards, there is some class still left in him from his days with us.

He learned football at Barcelona, learned to be a man at Arsenal

I admire your ability with words MJ Smile

by MJ Sat 11 Aug - 2:13:23

srigooner wrote:
I admire your ability with words MJ

Sri, always seeing the best in people who don't play for Barcelona :bow:

Does this guy look like an unsettled rebel who's agreed to terms with Barca?
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by SUPERCARTTS Sat 11 Aug - 4:56:57

Thought I'd quickly right this little piece on Etienne Capoue, ater having the privileged of watching the eventful Ligue 1 season opener between reigning champions Montpellier, and Toulouse.

The main focus for me was of course rumoured arsenal target, Etienne Capoue. However, I also got to see The impressive ball playing cb, Yanga M'Biwa. Firstly, what I instantly liked about Capoue was his aggression; the ability to assert himself early on. To stamp his authority amidst a strong Montpellier side. With in minutes, it was evident why Capoue has been linked with Arsenal and Barcelona in recent times. He's an imposing figure who stands at at least 6'2; he sits several yards infront of the back 4 and instantly, his first intention is to go forward.

Of course, going forward every time will occasionally result in possession being squandered. It was as if Capoue was aware of the prying eyes and tried a bit too hard at times. His sometimes over elaborate inventive play resulted in giving possession back to Montpellier. Most importantly though, instead of throwing his arms up, he immediately went back to win the ball. I feel that the likes of Arteta and Cazorla will minimise the possibility of losing the baller as the aforementioned pride their play on give and go football; to pass the baller, move in to space, and instant demand it back. While watching Toulouse, it was as if Capoue wanted to be both the DM and playmaker. Encouraging to say the least, but unnecessary if playing for a well drilled attacking team like Arsenal.

Also, Capoue looks technically. 'Daisy cutting' passes were also on the menu today. 'give and go around the corner' was also evident. Strong in the tackle and considering that, bizarrely, there were 3 reds and 1 yellow, Capoue wasn't on the receiving end of any bookings. Nearer the end when of the match he began to tire; a couple of weak passes were easily cut out by Montpellier but all in all, Capoue showed a lot of maturity, responsibility, intent and technical awareness. Only on a few occasion when Montpellier were reduced to 10 men did we see Capoue advance further for obvious reason of course. But more importantly, there's no denying that the kid is definitely cut out for the defensive midfied position. Still young with a lot of potential but from what I saw, I'd keep very close tabs on him and consider making a move if Song departs Arsenal for Barcelona.

The question however, is, 'is Capoue better than Coquelin' even at this stage?

Experience: Capoue
Passing: Coquelin
Tackling: both
Pace: Coquelin
Height: Capoue

I'd sign Capoue as a replacement.

by urbaNRoots Sat 11 Aug - 15:08:05

SUPERCARTTS +1 :bow:

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Ali Al-Habsi ‏@AliAlhabsi
سعيد ان فريقنا ويغان اعاروا اللاعب الياباني ريو لمدة موسم ، لاعب الارسنال وكان معار ايضاً من بولتون.. جميل يكون معاي لاعب اسيوي بالفريق

Al-Habsi saying that Ryo has joined Wigan on loan.

by SamuelJayC Sat 11 Aug - 15:10:57

Ryo to Wigan. Moses to Chelsea.

Ryo will get games. Very Happy

by lenear1030 Sat 11 Aug - 15:26:10

is it just me, or do chelsea have way too many signings. especially attacking players....

by SUPERCARTTS Sat 11 Aug - 15:56:04

Well they've lost Anelka, Drogba, Kalou, Malouda and Lukaku. And one must also factor in injuries as well as going for a double. So I'd say their squad is adequately sized

by MJ Sat 11 Aug - 19:41:16

FTBpro, which is an amateur footie site, admittedly is saying Welbeck + cash for RVP.

hmm

Would any of you take a deal like that?

by Jay29 Sat 11 Aug - 19:44:52

That's not a bad deal, actually. A lot better than just selling van Persie to United. hmm

No way that's going to happen, though.

by Mudcat Sat 11 Aug - 20:03:10

MJGunner wrote:FTBpro, which is an amateur footie site, admittedly is saying Welbeck + cash for RVP.

Would any of you take a deal like that?

Oddly enough, just this morning (and for no particular reason) I was pondering getting Chicharito coming back Arsenal's way. But then people are always conjuring up these swap deals and they rarely come about.

by abirking Sat 11 Aug - 20:11:45

Welbeck is part of manu future, highly unlikely they will sell him. Getting RVP may not strengthen Manu more. Remember they took berbatov who was one of the better strikers in the league, and he had a mixed career there. Although what would they do with 5 strikers if they buy RVP.
Rooney, hernandez, welbeck, berbatov and RVP.

by MJ Sat 11 Aug - 20:20:19

I know they'd love to force Berbatov down our throats but for this to work I think we should demand Chicarito or Welbeck plus cash. They have too many strikers anyway even though I know they'd love to drop Berbatov. Wenger has never sold a player to SAF. I hope he doesn't start now. And if he does, do it with a side of Chicarito or Welbeck please.

by Jay29 Sat 11 Aug - 23:20:47

I wouldn't take Hernandez. He lacks the technical ability to play up front on his own and wouldn't fit into our system at all. Even if he's not quite as successful in front of goal, Welbeck would be a much better fit.

But as I've said before, no chance of anything like this happening. United aren't going to give us one of their most promising talents in exchange for an ageing, injury-prone striker.

by Raptorgunner Sun 12 Aug - 0:22:49

Football Agent ‏@agent_153

#RVP is officially a #MUFC player. Successful talks were finalised late this evening and the medical date is confirmed!

by Jay29 Sun 12 Aug - 0:33:34

It's from a Twitter ITK, so it must be true.

Incidentally, Mo Farah said: "I'm a big Arsenal fan. I hope van Persie stays."

Can't say no to a double winner, Robin.

by urbaNRoots Sun 12 Aug - 0:45:29

https://twitter.com/Mo_Farah/status/220621126332723202

Mo FarahVerified
‏@Mo_Farah
We will always love u @Persie_Official Would love to c u stay at Arsenal but thats just me being an Arsenal fan!! Will respect your decision

Legend :bow:

by Raptorgunner Sun 12 Aug - 0:51:25

GoonerJay29 wrote:It's from a Twitter ITK, so it must be true.

Incidentally, Mo Farah said: "I'm a big Arsenal fan. I hope van Persie stays."

Can't say no to a double winner, Robin.

by Raptorgunner Sun 12 Aug - 0:52:23

urbaNRoots wrote:https://twitter.com/Mo_Farah/status/220621126332723202

Mo FarahVerified
‏@Mo_Farah
We will always love u @Persie_Official Would love to c u stay at Arsenal but thats just me being an Arsenal fan!! Will respect your decision

Legend

by DuringTheWar Sun 12 Aug - 1:06:02

GoonerJay29 wrote:
But as I've said before, no chance of anything like this happening. United aren't going to give us one of their most promising talents in exchange for an ageing, injury-prone striker.

unbelievable. You think utd would be getting ripped off trading an average young player for a world class player in his prime? only team getting ripped off if that deal happened would be arsenal

cant believe some of the bleep i've read about van persie, some people even think it would be worse to lose song :facepalm:

its ok to hate him i guess but it doesnt change the fact he is a bona fide world class player

did any of you actually go to the emirates last season? in terms of quality the arsenal team was a bleeping one man show at times i actually felt sorry for the guy in some games. I dont even blame him for wanting to leave that mess tbh, i just hope cazorla convinces him to stay but i doubt it will be enough

by RealGunner Sun 12 Aug - 1:21:32

It was a mess last year mate, This year it's much much better in terms of Dependency.

however, i Don't want welbeck. I don't rate him. I rather have Berbatov than him.

But in the end, Selling RVP to man utd, city, chelsea. It's not worth it. Rather keep him for another year.

by MJ Sun 12 Aug - 1:26:42

Diego Armando Maradona wrote:unbelievable. You think utd would be getting ripped off trading an average young player for a world class player in his prime? only team getting ripped off if that deal happened would be arsenal

cant believe some of the bleep i've read about van persie, some people even think it would be worse to lose song its ok to hate him i guess but it doesnt change the fact he is a bona fide world class player

did any of you actually go to the emirates last season? in terms of quality the arsenal team was a bleeping one man show at times i actually felt sorry for the guy in some games. I dont even blame him for wanting to leave that mess tbh, i just hope cazorla convinces him to stay but i doubt it will be enough

I believe you're overreacting quite a bit. Since you went to the Emirates, you're more qualified to judge the team as a whole? And because he played a year of world class football and carried the team, he should disregard the years of injuries and periods of time where Arsene Wenger was carrying his career along by retaining faith in him? Likewise with the fans, they supported him while he was Diaby 2.0 and now that we're finally getting on our feet he can ditch us and possibly leave us in shambles? 7 years of faith > 1 year of world class play.

by VendettaRed07 Sun 12 Aug - 1:32:13

I think Cash+Chicharito would be a good deal, I think he is better than Welbeck. They scored the same amount of goals even though Chicharito saw a lot less playing time.

Even though honestly keeping him even for just one season is probably still ideal. I'd only do that deal if I had to.

by Jay29 Sun 12 Aug - 1:44:15

Diego Armando Maradona wrote:
GoonerJay29 wrote:
But as I've said before, no chance of anything like this happening. United aren't going to give us one of their most promising talents in exchange for an ageing, injury-prone striker.

unbelievable. You think utd would be getting ripped off trading an average young player for a world class player in his prime? only team getting ripped off if that deal happened would be arsenal

I don't know how you've come to this conclusion. I haven't denounced van Persie's qualities in any way, neither have I suggested United would be ripping themselves off by trading Welbeck for van Persie.

What I'm actually saying is that from United's prospective it wouldn't be a sensible or logical move. Welbeck is far from average and can only get better. He's not injury prone, and he's a product of their own academy. Potentially, he could be a mainstay in United's team for many years. So why would they give a player like that to a rival team? They'd be much better off just buying van Persie outright.

I also fail to see how Arsenal would be ripped off. We'd be rid of a want-away player and would gain a promising young striker along with the two other quality strikers we've signed this summer. That'd be making the best out of a bad situation, would it not?

I think Cash+Chicharito would be a good deal, I think he is better than Welbeck. They scored the same amount of goals even though Chicharito saw a lot less playing time.

Different players. Hernandez is a pure goalscorer and will score more goals, but Welbeck brings a lot more to the table; better physical attributes, better technique and first touch, higher work ethic and all round better hold-up play.

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