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Post by sportsczy Thu May 24, 2012 6:11 pm

I don't think so. Germany is inexperienced, especially on defense, and Spain is aging + needs to find a replacement for Villa. Netherlands has defensive question marks. Defense is going to be new too in terms of Puyol being out and Ramos moving central. That means a new RB as well. Pique is not exactly playing well either.

Sure, these 3 teams (Spain, Germany, Netherlands) are favored because of their performance in WC 2010 and the quality of their players in "glamor" positions. But in the end, defense and goalkeeping win tournaments imo. I only give Spain a definite edge because they know how to win a tournament with this group of players. That's important.

I don't think it would be a shock if Italy or France won the tournament. I could even see Croatia and Portugal sneaking in there.

There's a lot of potential for surprises imo.

Thoughts?
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Post by Ganso Thu May 24, 2012 6:14 pm

there isnt A favorite but without a doubt the favorites are Spain and Germany
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Post by Adit Thu May 24, 2012 6:15 pm

Yes

Spain easily are the biggest favorites, Germany a close second.
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Post by S32TABLANCA Thu May 24, 2012 6:19 pm

-Arbeloa-Martinez-Ramos-Alba-

Not much chemistry, but thats a very good defence individually.
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Post by Great Leader Sprucenuce Thu May 24, 2012 6:20 pm

I 100% believe that neither Spain or Germany will win it.....

Spains frontline is unproven, as is thier defence and Germany are inexperienced and iam certain will fold under the pressure of it all at some point.

It's an open tournament where anyone can win it but i dont feel Germany or Spain will.

Dont be suprised if we see another Greece.
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Post by Le Samourai Thu May 24, 2012 6:24 pm

Pique will not be dropped.

Only France has a better CF than Fernando Torres Llorente
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Post by Bellabong Thu May 24, 2012 6:26 pm

Bayern and Dortmund were amongst the best teams defensively last season whose records were *ruined* by one insanely high scoring match. ( Dortmund - Stuttgart, Bayern - Dortmund)

They both happen to be the suppliers of the German defense >.> (Apart from Höwedes who was in German's 3rd best team.)
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Post by Lex Thu May 24, 2012 6:26 pm

The usual suspects. Spain, Germany, etc.

Then you have those who are expected to fail but end up doing pretty good ie. Holland, Portugal, England
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Post by Great Leader Sprucenuce Thu May 24, 2012 6:30 pm

You think England will do well then Lex? i dont even think we will get out of the group stage tbh Laughing
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Post by sportsczy Thu May 24, 2012 6:31 pm

"Fail' to me is very relative in this tournament. I think coming out of pool play is a good result. After that, it's whoever has the right mojo imo. I don't think a lot separates the teams.
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Post by S Thu May 24, 2012 6:31 pm

After seeing Bayern choking in the final.I'm starting to think this new Germany could become another Spain pre 2008.

All talent but no mental toughness except some of them.This is so unlike Germany.

And Loew is too much onto planning for the future.Basically getting every young talent who has a decent season into the NT.
I read an article based on this by whitney a few weeks ago and i absolutely agree with him.
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Post by sportsczy Thu May 24, 2012 6:53 pm

The more i look into it, the more i see Sweden as a surprise team.
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Post by EarlyPrototype Thu May 24, 2012 6:57 pm

For the Euro's you always have teams expected to win or make it to the final, but it is pretty unpredictable. Spain and Germany are expected to both make it to the final if they don't come across each other earlier. I am expecting shocks though. For example I think Portugal will upset Holland in the group stages.
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Post by Lex Thu May 24, 2012 6:58 pm

Great Leader Sprucenuce wrote:You think England will do well then Lex? i dont even think we will get out of the group stage tbh Laughing
Call it insane, but i have a gut feeling this average squad, complete with that lovable buffoon of a manager Hodgson, will fluke their way to the quarters or even semis
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Post by EarlyPrototype Thu May 24, 2012 7:01 pm

Mole you have the best sig ever. :bow:
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Post by Great Leader Sprucenuce Thu May 24, 2012 7:02 pm

EarlyPrototype wrote:Mole you have the best sig ever. :bow:

Dont i always eco smile

Also Lex good point lol its just crazy enough to pan out like that.....
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Post by BarcaLearning Fri May 25, 2012 12:05 am

Everyone is agreeing Spain and Germany.... what about dark horse? France look decent atm under Blanc?

And Pique + Ramos in CB.... lol somehow I dont think that will work out, maybe Pique + Martinez....
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Post by leemhuis Fri May 25, 2012 2:06 am

Spain could be eliminated in the group. Ireland with their manager could stop them and Italy might come first. I don't think Spain can beat Italy. They only won on penalties once against Italy in a big competition. We are better than Italy, Spain or Germany. We were, as usual, unlucky against Spain in 2010.
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Post by Kick Fri May 25, 2012 2:36 am

Torres will win the Euro's for spain just like he did in 08.
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Post by BarrileteCosmico Fri May 25, 2012 2:37 am

Yeah, Spain + Germany are big favorites. Everyone else is not.
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Post by Lord Awesome Fri May 25, 2012 3:31 am

Great Leader Sprucenuce wrote:I 100% believe that neither Spain or Germany will win it.....
Hell yes, Mole.

I also believe all the favorites will not win.

T'will be the Portugeezers and the Frenchies to take it, IMO.
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Post by kiranr Fri May 25, 2012 3:35 am

Lord Hispano wrote:
Great Leader Sprucenuce wrote:I 100% believe that neither Spain or Germany will win it.....
Hell yes, Mole.

I also believe all the favorites will not win.

T'will be the Portugeezers and the Frenchies to take it, IMO.

Those teams just don't have the extra bit of quality in every position you need to win the tournament Hispano. It has to be one of the powerhouses to win it.

Maybe France can pull it off but i don't know about their midfield.
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Post by Lord Awesome Fri May 25, 2012 3:38 am

Oh you'll see. Smile Remember that it's Blanc and not Domenech as the manager for France.

Portugal. They have the best player in the world.
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Post by kiranr Fri May 25, 2012 3:41 am

Lord Hispano wrote:Oh you'll see. Smile Remember that it's Blanc and not Domenech as the manager for France.

Portugal. They have the best player in the world.

Don't think Messi plays for Portugal. Razz

A good manager can definitely help. Let us see. I have my doubts, but wouldn't mind being surprised.
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Post by McLewis Fri May 25, 2012 4:24 am

Obviously it's Spain and Germany, but I also expect the Dutch to have their say before falling by the wayside like they did in 08.

As for surprise packages, now that's a more interesting discussion imo. I can see Poland making a nuisance of themselves as well as the Swedes and possibly Croatians. I see the Czechs, Greeks, and Ukrainians falling at the first hurdle.
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