Re: Champions League 2012-2013 - Draw Live!

by Luca Thu 24 May 2012 - 22:11

animal.crackers wrote:To be honest, after raping Porto 6-1 , we probably thought we could just show up and win against Lisbon.

Doesn't work that way in Europe because these competitions mean a lot to the smaller teams. And now that City are a good team again, everyone steps their game up against us.

Ah, so you got eliminated because the competition is too easy
Now it makes sense

by animal.crackers Thu 24 May 2012 - 22:23

Luca wrote:
animal.crackers wrote:To be honest, after raping Porto 6-1 , we probably thought we could just show up and win against Lisbon.

Doesn't work that way in Europe because these competitions mean a lot to the smaller teams. And now that City are a good team again, everyone steps their game up against us.
Ah, so you got eliminated because the competition is too easy
Now it makes sense

We got eliminated because of SHOCKING errors (and a slip) from our backup players and goalkeeper (who tried to "cheat" on a free kick).

by Lord Hades Thu 24 May 2012 - 22:33

whose fault is thatl ol?

i can justify any loss using that logic .

by animal.crackers Thu 24 May 2012 - 22:36

Lord Hades wrote:whose fault is thatl ol?

i can justify any loss using that logic .

Our fault, of course. I ain't hatin' though.

It was good for our league campaign anyway.

by Lord Hades Thu 24 May 2012 - 22:39

yeahh , my point was to state that el is harder than it looks for top teams ..

by animal.crackers Thu 24 May 2012 - 22:41

Lord Hades wrote:yeahh , my point was to state that el is harder than it looks for top teams ..

We made it hard for ourselves.

by Neutral Thu 24 May 2012 - 22:42

mancini wont do s#$% in europe.

by animal.crackers Thu 24 May 2012 - 22:44

Neutral wrote:mancini wont do s#$% in europe.

yes

by Noonan22 Fri 25 May 2012 - 0:36

I don't know if this has been mentioned,but I was looknig at the Uefa club coefficients,and Atletico Madrid got more points than Chelsea this season.Does anybody have an explanation for this?

So did Barca and Madrid,but I assume that's because of where they finished in La Liga.

http://www.uefa.com/memberassociations/uefarankings/club/index.html

by Jack Daniels Fri 25 May 2012 - 7:05

Noonan22 wrote:I don't know if this has been mentioned,but I was looknig at the Uefa club coefficients,and Atletico Madrid got more points than Chelsea this season.Does anybody have an explanation for this?

So did Barca and Madrid,but I assume that's because of where they finished in La Liga.

http://www.uefa.com/memberassociations/uefarankings/club/index.html

Probably because they won more games.

by aleumdance Sat 26 May 2012 - 1:03

lol. Hope Juve and Arsenal meet in thesame group

just to see British media w@nk about it and call it " battle of the Invincibles"

by Blanco Sat 26 May 2012 - 1:39

Noonan22 wrote:I don't know if this has been mentioned,but I was looknig at the Uefa club coefficients,and Atletico Madrid got more points than Chelsea this season.Does anybody have an explanation for this?

So did Barca and Madrid,but I assume that's because of where they finished in La Liga.

Real Madrid, Barca and Atletico won more games in European competitions this season and hence they are ahead of Chelsea.

IMO, its a perfect way of rating the teams. Can any of the butt hurt fans come up with a better process of rating them? It'll create too much confusion.

by Bellabong Tue 29 May 2012 - 15:07

Introduce ELO.

by S Fri 13 Jul 2012 - 4:56

Phritz any chance of PSG ending up in pot 4 ?

by Blue Barrett Fri 13 Jul 2012 - 5:28

Ah! This thread just reminded me of animal.crackers Laughing

by The Sanchez Fri 13 Jul 2012 - 5:29

Its about time we were ranked 1. It wasn't until Manchester United dropped out of Europa that made us go up to 1. Madrid goes ahead of Arsenal...

by Bellabong Fri 10 Aug 2012 - 1:11

Surag wrote:Phritz any chance of PSG ending up in pot 4 ?

Updated main post for the play-offs.

The chances of Dortmund being a pot 4 team are extremely high (There are 8 clubs in the non-champions route and 3 in the champions route seeded higher than them) whilst the chances for PSG to be a Pot 4 team is plausible, but unlikely as it requires the elimination of BMG, Málaga, Lille, Udinese and Fenerbahçe from the non-champions route.

Well pretty much know after the draw whether PSG are guaranteed Pot 3, or if there's still a chance for Pot 4 depending on results.

All that's required for PSG to be guaranteed Pot 3 is for Braga and Kiev to be drawn against each other, or any of BMG, Málaga, Lille, Udinese and Fenerbahçe to be drawn against eachother.

by rwo power Fri 10 Aug 2012 - 12:15

Uh-oh. FC Basel have drawn CFR Cluj. That won't be easy!

And Borussia Mönchengladbach will take on Dynamo Kiew

Here's the full result of the play-off draw:

Champions Route:

FC Basel - CFR Cluj
Helsingborgs - Celtic Glasgow
BATE Borissow - Hapoel Shmona
AEK Limassol - RSC Anderlecht
Dinamo Zagreb - NK Maribor

League Route:

SC Braga - Udinese Calcio
Spartak Moskau - Fenerbahce
Malaga - Panathinaikos FC
Mönchengladbach - Dynamo Kiew
Lille - FC Kopenhagen

The matches will be played on 21/22 August (1st leg) and 28/29 August (2nd leg).

by Firenze Fri 10 Aug 2012 - 15:04

Udinese should get past Braga, looking forward to seeing them in the competition proper. Even if a lot of people think it's a wasted spot.

by FalcaoPunch Fri 10 Aug 2012 - 18:07

Barca to have the easiest group.

by Bellabong Fri 10 Aug 2012 - 18:12

Wow, the draw ended up in the ''Neutrals" favor.

It didn't determine anything and while the chances are still slim, PSG could still be a Pot 4 team.

by Guest Fri 10 Aug 2012 - 18:16

Tough draw for FC Kobenhavn.

but I am hopeful that they'll beat Lille

by The Messiah Fri 10 Aug 2012 - 18:16

Phritz wrote:I just want a group with City, Real Madrid, Juventus and Dortmund in it xD

Madrid will not get out of the group...

I want it as well.

by Great Leader Sprucenuce Fri 10 Aug 2012 - 18:17

Schweini wrote:Tough draw for FC Kobenhavn.

but I am hopeful that they'll beat Lille

Me too, mainly because it will force them sell Debuchy Very Happy

BTW poor mans Europa League :coffee:

by McAgger Fri 10 Aug 2012 - 18:20

The Messiah wrote:
Phritz wrote:I just want a group with City, Real Madrid, Juventus and Dortmund in it xD

Madrid will not get out of the group...

I want it as well.

I want this as well, only instead of Dortmund I'm hoping for PSG from pot 4. IT would be so amazing raping best teams from their respective leagues.

I like Dormund to much to wish for them to end up in such a group

by Bellabong Sat 11 Aug 2012 - 21:48

Messiah "Aggerswagger" wrote:
I want this as well, only instead of Dortmund I'm hoping for PSG from pot 4. IT would be so amazing raping best teams from their respective leagues.

Chances are slim; the Pot 4 possibility could have been eliminated in the draw but the draw came out in the only possible way where PSG still has a chance of being a Pot 4 team. (There are 7 teams left that outrank PSG, and none of them got drawn against eachother)

Dortmund will end up in an extremely tough group regardless, the chances of them staying a pot 3 team are as slim as PSG being relegated to Pot 4 :S

Whatever happens, this years CL group stages will be even more interesting than last years imo.

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