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Post by Luca Thu May 24, 2012 9:11 pm

animal.crackers wrote:To be honest, after raping Porto 6-1 , we probably thought we could just show up and win against Lisbon.

Doesn't work that way in Europe because these competitions mean a lot to the smaller teams. And now that City are a good team again, everyone steps their game up against us.

Ah, so you got eliminated because the competition is too easy
Now it makes sense

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Post by animal.crackers Thu May 24, 2012 9:23 pm

Luca wrote:
animal.crackers wrote:To be honest, after raping Porto 6-1 , we probably thought we could just show up and win against Lisbon.

Doesn't work that way in Europe because these competitions mean a lot to the smaller teams. And now that City are a good team again, everyone steps their game up against us.
Ah, so you got eliminated because the competition is too easy
Now it makes sense
We got eliminated because of SHOCKING errors (and a slip) from our backup players and goalkeeper (who tried to "cheat" on a free kick).
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Post by Lord Hades Thu May 24, 2012 9:33 pm

whose fault is thatl ol?

i can justify any loss using that logic .
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Post by animal.crackers Thu May 24, 2012 9:36 pm

Lord Hades wrote:whose fault is thatl ol?

i can justify any loss using that logic .
Our fault, of course. I ain't hatin' though.

It was good for our league campaign anyway.
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Post by Lord Hades Thu May 24, 2012 9:39 pm

yeahh , my point was to state that el is harder than it looks for top teams ..
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Post by animal.crackers Thu May 24, 2012 9:41 pm

Lord Hades wrote:yeahh , my point was to state that el is harder than it looks for top teams ..
We made it hard for ourselves.
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Post by Neutral Thu May 24, 2012 9:42 pm

mancini wont do s#$% in europe.

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Post by animal.crackers Thu May 24, 2012 9:44 pm

Neutral wrote:mancini wont do s#$% in europe.
yes
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Post by Noonan22 Thu May 24, 2012 11:36 pm

I don't know if this has been mentioned,but I was looknig at the Uefa club coefficients,and Atletico Madrid got more points than Chelsea this season.Does anybody have an explanation for this?

So did Barca and Madrid,but I assume that's because of where they finished in La Liga.

http://www.uefa.com/memberassociations/uefarankings/club/index.html
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Post by Jack Daniels Fri May 25, 2012 6:05 am

Noonan22 wrote:I don't know if this has been mentioned,but I was looknig at the Uefa club coefficients,and Atletico Madrid got more points than Chelsea this season.Does anybody have an explanation for this?

So did Barca and Madrid,but I assume that's because of where they finished in La Liga.

http://www.uefa.com/memberassociations/uefarankings/club/index.html
Probably because they won more games.

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Post by aleumdance Sat May 26, 2012 12:03 am

lol. Hope Juve and Arsenal meet in thesame group

just to see British media w@nk about it and call it " battle of the Invincibles"
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Post by Blanco Sat May 26, 2012 12:39 am

Noonan22 wrote:I don't know if this has been mentioned,but I was looknig at the Uefa club coefficients,and Atletico Madrid got more points than Chelsea this season.Does anybody have an explanation for this?

So did Barca and Madrid,but I assume that's because of where they finished in La Liga.

Real Madrid, Barca and Atletico won more games in European competitions this season and hence they are ahead of Chelsea.

IMO, its a perfect way of rating the teams. Can any of the butt hurt fans come up with a better process of rating them? It'll create too much confusion.
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Post by Bellabong Tue May 29, 2012 2:07 pm

Introduce ELO.
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Post by S Fri Jul 13, 2012 3:56 am

Phritz any chance of PSG ending up in pot 4 ?
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Post by Blue Barrett Fri Jul 13, 2012 4:28 am

Ah! This thread just reminded me of animal.crackers Laughing
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Post by The Sanchez Fri Jul 13, 2012 4:29 am

Its about time we were ranked 1. It wasn't until Manchester United dropped out of Europa that made us go up to 1. Madrid goes ahead of Arsenal...
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Post by Bellabong Fri Aug 10, 2012 12:11 am

Surag wrote:Phritz any chance of PSG ending up in pot 4 ?

Updated main post for the play-offs.

The chances of Dortmund being a pot 4 team are extremely high (There are 8 clubs in the non-champions route and 3 in the champions route seeded higher than them) whilst the chances for PSG to be a Pot 4 team is plausible, but unlikely as it requires the elimination of BMG, Málaga, Lille, Udinese and Fenerbahçe from the non-champions route.

Well pretty much know after the draw whether PSG are guaranteed Pot 3, or if there's still a chance for Pot 4 depending on results.

All that's required for PSG to be guaranteed Pot 3 is for Braga and Kiev to be drawn against each other, or any of BMG, Málaga, Lille, Udinese and Fenerbahçe to be drawn against eachother.
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Post by rwo power Fri Aug 10, 2012 11:15 am

Uh-oh. FC Basel have drawn CFR Cluj. That won't be easy!

And Borussia Mönchengladbach will take on Dynamo Kiew

Here's the full result of the play-off draw:

Champions Route:

FC Basel - CFR Cluj
Helsingborgs - Celtic Glasgow
BATE Borissow - Hapoel Shmona
AEK Limassol - RSC Anderlecht
Dinamo Zagreb - NK Maribor

League Route:

SC Braga - Udinese Calcio
Spartak Moskau - Fenerbahce
Malaga - Panathinaikos FC
Mönchengladbach - Dynamo Kiew
Lille - FC Kopenhagen

The matches will be played on 21/22 August (1st leg) and 28/29 August (2nd leg).
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Post by Firenze Fri Aug 10, 2012 2:04 pm

Udinese should get past Braga, looking forward to seeing them in the competition proper. Even if a lot of people think it's a wasted spot.
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Post by FalcaoPunch Fri Aug 10, 2012 5:07 pm

Barca to have the easiest group.
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Post by Bellabong Fri Aug 10, 2012 5:12 pm

Wow, the draw ended up in the ''Neutrals" favor.

It didn't determine anything and while the chances are still slim, PSG could still be a Pot 4 team.
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Post by Guest Fri Aug 10, 2012 5:16 pm

Tough draw for FC Kobenhavn.

but I am hopeful that they'll beat Lille

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Post by The Messiah Fri Aug 10, 2012 5:16 pm

Phritz wrote:I just want a group with City, Real Madrid, Juventus and Dortmund in it xD


Madrid will not get out of the group...


I want it as well.
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Post by Great Leader Sprucenuce Fri Aug 10, 2012 5:17 pm

Schweini wrote:Tough draw for FC Kobenhavn.

but I am hopeful that they'll beat Lille

Me too, mainly because it will force them sell Debuchy Very Happy

BTW poor mans Europa League :coffee:
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Post by McAgger Fri Aug 10, 2012 5:20 pm

The Messiah wrote:
Phritz wrote:I just want a group with City, Real Madrid, Juventus and Dortmund in it xD


Madrid will not get out of the group...


I want it as well.

I want this as well, only instead of Dortmund I'm hoping for PSG from pot 4. IT would be so amazing raping best teams from their respective leagues.

I like Dormund to much to wish for them to end up in such a group
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Post by Bellabong Sat Aug 11, 2012 8:48 pm

Messiah "Aggerswagger" wrote:
I want this as well, only instead of Dortmund I'm hoping for PSG from pot 4. IT would be so amazing raping best teams from their respective leagues.

Chances are slim; the Pot 4 possibility could have been eliminated in the draw but the draw came out in the only possible way where PSG still has a chance of being a Pot 4 team. (There are 7 teams left that outrank PSG, and none of them got drawn against eachother)

Dortmund will end up in an extremely tough group regardless, the chances of them staying a pot 3 team are as slim as PSG being relegated to Pot 4 :S

Whatever happens, this years CL group stages will be even more interesting than last years imo.
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