Eden Hazard Fan Club

yes pretty much, preseason football, good return Gil

I am sure he is winning the ballon dor thanks to that goal

Harmonica wrote:Actually it's the most important aspect of individual game. It doesn't depend of anyone else, when you beat your marker you aren't marked anymore, and opposition will have to adjust their defense which is always a potential danger, depending how do you or your team take advance of it. You can be a great dribbler and not great player, but it's not like Hazard haven't created the third most chance's the last six seasons, after Özil and Messi, and it's not becase the team edge, like how Fakenaldo creates chance's but it's because the individual game.

SO what if you free yourself from your marker? it's the decision making that follows that matter, whether you can pass or release the ball at the right time, in the right tempo, to the right player is what matters. Dribbling is important as a skill in every ball dominant sport yet, dribbling alone has never done anything for some. Remember Denilson?

We agree that this is not about how good hazard is because he does other things right.

But for example, what does "best chance creator behind ozil or messi" means for him then? what do we do with that statistics? you tell me

Harmonica wrote:Actually it's the most important aspect of individual game. It doesn't depend of anyone else, when you beat your marker you aren't marked anymore, and opposition will have to adjust their defense which is always a potential danger, depending how do you or your team take advance of it. You can be a great dribbler and not great player, but it's not like Hazard haven't created the third most chance's the last six seasons, after Özil and Messi, and it's not becase the team edge, like how Fakenaldo creates chance's but it's because the individual game.

nope all parts of the game is equally important as the other, dribbling mean nothing without timing or end product, as i said isco was poor at these and got benched, while james does less than half the dribbling but scores and assists at an alarming rate, which do you prefer.

When you beat a player, you advance the game by one player, what comes after that again depends on team edge and tactics, team mates and so on. You can beat a player, create danger, but not find any player to take advantage from it if they are lazing, not on it and so on. In a way football is pure math.

Harmonica wrote:When you beat a player, you advance the game by one player, what comes after that again depends on team edge and tactics, team mates and so on. You can beat a player, create danger, but not find any player to take advantage from it if they are lazing, not on it and so on. In a way football is pure math.

no it;s not lol, you can also beat a player then under hit your pass and lose the ball. Or you can beat a player, try to beat the next one and lose the ball.

Mr Nick09 wrote:

Harmonica wrote:When you beat a player, you advance the game by one player, what comes after that again depends on team edge and tactics, team mates and so on. You can beat a player, create danger, but not find any player to take advantage from it if they are lazing, not on it and so on. In a way football is pure math.

no it;s not lol, you can also beat a player then under hit your pass and lose the ball. Or you can beat a player, try to beat the next one and lose the ball.

Yes of course it will depends yourself also, but it's unrelated on dribbling, dribbling always advances game, example very few overall passes advance game and it will always depend on team mate.

lmao that makes no sense, if the pass is on and you go for the dribble then the pass is lost, and end up turn the ball back to reset, what do you call that? bad timing, poor reading of the game, no end product?

just because messsi is great at dribbling, doesn't means dribbling>>> i swear sometimes you go to far with this stuff .

Lol @ bringing up hazards pre season goal by that guy to prove a point, just shows his level of intelligence, whats next, bring up hazards charity games dribble stats. Btw, what do u guys expect from hamonica anyway? By his logic hazard is better than ronaldo, neymar, robben, suarez, james and others because of some pointless, uninspiring dribbles. By his logic garrincha, denilson are also the best player of their eras. Whats the use of dribbling and following it up with a bad decision? So dribbling 1 player and passing to a random player beats an end product of a goal or a well timed pass? Lol. I wonder if he ever reads what nick/chad has been posting..

He just put the best individual performance I've seen since Messi vs City at home back in early 2015. Absolutely electric, and when on form a top 5 footballer. A pleasure to watch him,, just glides past players effortlessly.


Waiting for GL hipsters to say how De Bruyne is as good or even better. He's not fit to lick Hazard's boots when he's at his best.

Valkyrja wrote:He just put the best individual performance I've seen since Messi vs City at home back in early 2015. Absolutely electric, and when on form a top 5 footballer. A pleasure to watch him,, just glides past players effortlessly.


Waiting for GL hipsters to say how De Bruyne is as good or even better. He's not fit to lick Hazard's boots when he's at his best.

but is he better than bale?

Unique wrote:

Valkyrja wrote:He just put the best individual performance I've seen since Messi vs City at home back in early 2015. Absolutely electric, and when on form a top 5 footballer. A pleasure to watch him,, just glides past players effortlessly.


Waiting for GL hipsters to say how De Bruyne is as good or even better. He's not fit to lick Hazard's boots when he's at his best.

but is he better than bale?

easily imo. handles the basic much better and on the ball only Messi is better at the moment

Only Messi can put this kind of performances. Easily the best player in the PL and Chelsea are favorites to win the title this year with Hazard in this type of form.

Valk I can't see the video. Did you post the youtube link directly?

so in the 13/14 season he was GOAT. in the 15/16 season he was a scrub and now he is GOAT again.

Valkyrja wrote:https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=YApdXsQC_zw

Only Messi can put this kind of performances. Easily the best player in the PL and Chelsea are favorites to win the title this year with Hazard in this type of form.

There you go.

Some huge overrating of Hazard going on in here. Stop insulting Messi by comparing him to Fraudzard pls.

Myesyats wrote:Some huge overrating of Hazard going on in here. Stop insulting Messi by comparing him to Fraudzard pls.

The only fraud in this thread is that hipster from your avatar

Hazard is closer to Sterling than to Messi when it comes to end product. Bite that.

Valkyrja wrote:

Myesyats wrote:Some huge overrating of Hazard going on in here. Stop insulting Messi by comparing him to Fraudzard pls.

The only fraud in this thread is that moron from my avatar

Although not close Messi, Hazard is easily the second best dribbler in modern football.

09-16 Top 5 leagues + UCL Most Dribbles

1415 Messi (+62%) (Top dribbler in WC10/14, CA11/15)
874 Hazard (Top dribbler in EU16)
774 Ribery (Top dribler in EU12)

Lucifer wrote:

Valkyrja wrote:

Myesyats wrote:Some huge overrating of Hazard going on in here. Stop insulting Messi by comparing him to Fraudzard pls.

The only fraud in this thread is that moron from my avatar

he'll get you for that

Myesyats wrote:Hazard is closer to Sterling than to Messi when it comes to end product. Bite that.

Don't insult Raheem like that.

Looks like his normal self. Unreal how much he hated Mourinho

Lol welcome back Gil.

Gil you pos left me alone to defend this goat