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Post by Lucifer Sun Sep 20, 2015 1:37 pm

Blue wrote:
Pirloisjesus wrote:
Gil wrote:


Someone's bitter. Pointless dribbling? Stupidest post I've seen on here. Mad Neytap doesn't have that in his locker. Hazard never runs into blind alleys & mostly maintains possession when crowded.

And he had a World Class game last night. The annual slow starter is about to explode again.
why u need to compare hazard with neymar is beyond me. Nobody compares neymar with him on other hand 'hazard fans'  always jump on this comparison. What does that tell you hmm


Who are these Hazard fans you are referring to? Rolling Eyes


His performance against Arsenal was below standard.

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Post by Bankz Sun Sep 20, 2015 1:41 pm

Neymar is a whole different level to hazard tbh, its like comparing messi to david silva.. Why these people (gil and co) are quick to compare hazard to neymar even when its gotten pointless is beyond me, even hazard himself will chuckle at the neymar comparitions. Its has become laughable tbh.. The inferiority complex is quite strong in this one!!!
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Post by Gil Sun Sep 20, 2015 1:46 pm

5 chances created. 8 dribbles. 91% passing accuracy. Wow.

Today's performance was way better than last seasons. Did nothing apart from the dribble. People are just underrating it because Arsenal were down to 10 men in the 2nd half & he's had a well publicized slow start.

When you're at his level, the benchmark for left wingers you tend to take performances like that for granted.
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Post by Valkyrja Sun Sep 20, 2015 1:54 pm

Hazard was great yesterday. Best player on the pitch along with Zouma and Costa
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Post by Valkyrja Sun Sep 20, 2015 1:55 pm

linetty wrote:His dribbling is so pointless. He revolves about and it results in absolutely nothing.

He hasn't been close to world class this season so far.




Pointless dribbling is pointless
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Post by izzy Sun Sep 20, 2015 1:58 pm

Hazard was great yesterday? Really?



Really?
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Post by Myesyats Sun Sep 20, 2015 2:01 pm

Valkyrja wrote:
linetty wrote:His dribbling is so pointless. He revolves about and it results in absolutely nothing.

He hasn't been close to world class this season so far.




Pointless dribbling is pointless

What is this supposed to prove/mean in this case?
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Post by Gil Sun Sep 20, 2015 2:04 pm

Hazard haters running rampant. I see what Cristiano fans go through now. Imagine discrediting his performance yesterday. Watch that video and tell me how many players were better yesterday?

Certainly not Mr.30 shots, no goals who was up against the Worst defender in the League so far this season.

#IStandWithHazard
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Post by izzy Sun Sep 20, 2015 2:12 pm

Was he really GREAT though Gil?

I mean really?
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Post by Gil Sun Sep 20, 2015 2:16 pm

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Men lie, women lie, numbers don't. :bow:
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Post by Adit Sun Sep 20, 2015 2:29 pm

Definitely the most dangerous chelsea attacker. He is largely limited by chelsea's rigid system though. Really hope he joins some ball dominant team and a team that can actually support him with a decent fullback instead of a right footed defensive 'left back'. Chelsea is the most uncreative team out there, graveyard for creative players.
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Post by Gil Sun Sep 20, 2015 3:54 pm

Adit wrote:Definitely the most dangerous chelsea attacker. He is largely limited by chelsea's rigid system though. Really hope he joins some ball dominant team and a team that can actually support him with a decent fullback instead of a right footed defensive 'left back'. Chelsea is the most uncreative team out there, graveyard for creative players.

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Post by Great Leader Sprucenuce Sun Sep 20, 2015 3:57 pm

Despite what ESPN once tried to make the world believe numbers do lie.

Although he was good/great against Arsenal and i don't need numbers to see that.
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Post by Mr Nick09 Sun Sep 20, 2015 4:10 pm

Yes he is great, but it's not normal that he is still not developping a final pass, or even improving his position in the box to be at the end of more chances. too much senseless possession and not enough movements, he is at times the reason his team looks so bland in possession in the last 3rd... just saying. You cant put everything on Mourinho, plenty of players have performed just fine under him.
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Post by chad4401 Sun Sep 20, 2015 4:27 pm

will never understand how dribbling = playing great.
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Post by Harmonica Sun Sep 20, 2015 4:34 pm

chad4401 wrote:will never understand how dribbling = playing great.
Remind me again which player fanboy are you?

Dribbling is the only statistic, skill that advances game and doesn't depend on team mates.
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Post by Mr Nick09 Sun Sep 20, 2015 4:40 pm

In a way, yes, in another way, no because there are players who just dribble without advancing the play. Once again, statistics in football are ridiculously contextual and almost useless.
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Post by S Sun Sep 20, 2015 4:41 pm

One of the most useless big game players
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Post by Harmonica Sun Sep 20, 2015 4:41 pm

Opta counts dribble by beating a player forward, which always advances game, and almost always is dangerous in modern, highly tactical game.
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Post by chad4401 Sun Sep 20, 2015 4:45 pm

Harmonica wrote:
chad4401 wrote:will never understand how dribbling = playing great.
Remind me again which player fanboy are you?

Dribbling is the only statistic, skill that advances game and doesn't depend on team mates.


you know who Im a fanboy of moron, why ask moronic questions?

second dribbling doesn't not = playing great you moron, save the stats and use your eyes for a change.

I have seen isco dribbling all game long and idiots line up to call him motm and luckily carlo wasn't an idiot and benched him, until he improved other aspects of his game which was lacking, that why dribbling alone means bleep all, expect for hype merchant and that don't know shit about footy


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Post by Harmonica Sun Sep 20, 2015 4:46 pm

chad4401 wrote:
Harmonica wrote:
chad4401 wrote:will never understand how dribbling = playing great.
Remind me again which player fanboy are you?

Dribbling is the only statistic, skill that advances game and doesn't depend on team mates.


you know who Im a fanboy of moron, why ask moronic questions?

second dribbling doesn't not = playing great you moron, save the stats and use your eyes for a change.

I have seen isco dribbling all game long and idiots line up to call him motm and luckily carlo wasn't an idiot benched him, until he improved other aspects of his game which was lacking, that why dribbling alone means bleep all, expect for hype merchant and that don't know shit about footy
Who's this moron, Benzema?
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Post by Mr Nick09 Sun Sep 20, 2015 4:47 pm

Yes, dribbling is important, but not as important as releasing the ball at the right time. Again, it all depends of the context. So in a way what Chad said is right. Being a great dribbler doesnt equate to being a great player, but then again, no one here is arguing that Hazard is not a great dribbler or player. It's just reductive to reach that conclusion based of his dribbling stats
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Post by chad4401 Sun Sep 20, 2015 4:48 pm

no messi the great random dribbler of all time, that why dribbling is very important to you, why do you even bother?
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Post by Harmonica Sun Sep 20, 2015 4:50 pm

Actually it's the most important aspect of individual game. It doesn't depend of anyone else, when you beat your marker you aren't marked anymore, and opposition will have to adjust their defense which is always a potential danger, depending how do you or your team take advance of it. You can be a great dribbler and not great player, but it's not like Hazard haven't created the third most chance's the last six seasons, after Özil and Messi, and it's not becase the team edge, like how Fakenaldo creates chance's but it's because the individual game.


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Post by Gil Sun Sep 20, 2015 4:51 pm


More pointless dribbling.
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Post by Mr Nick09 Sun Sep 20, 2015 4:53 pm

yes pretty much, preseason football, good return Gil

I am sure he is winning the ballon dor thanks to that goal
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