Should more teams play with one DM ?
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Should more teams play with one DM ?
by Rebaño Sagrado Sun Apr 15, 2012 10:34 pm
Should more teams play with one DM, and rely more on pressing to get the ball ?
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Re: Should more teams play with one DM ?
by Ganso Sun Apr 15, 2012 10:36 pm
blasphemy,we played with 3 dms last season and won the league
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Re: Should more teams play with one DM ?
by S32TABLANCA Sun Apr 15, 2012 10:45 pm
Yes.
But its very hard to establish and maintain that kind of system. Not everyone is Barca.
But its very hard to establish and maintain that kind of system. Not everyone is Barca.
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Re: Should more teams play with one DM ?
by Great Leader Sprucenuce Sun Apr 15, 2012 10:49 pm
lol wut most teams play with one DM.......
Dont confuse b2b,dlp and dm to be the same
Dont confuse b2b,dlp and dm to be the same
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Re: Should more teams play with one DM ?
by Rebaño Sagrado Sun Apr 15, 2012 10:50 pm
fck you mole you know I meant two players at the pivot
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Re: Should more teams play with one DM ?
by Sushi Master Sun Apr 15, 2012 10:52 pm
This. The fact that most teams have adapted 4-2-3-1 does not mean that both "DMs" are defensive in nature. Playing deep does not mean you are defensively oriented.Great Leader Sprucenuce wrote:lol wut most teams play with one DM.......
Dont confuse b2b,dlp and dm to be the same
Hell, 1 dimensional DMs aren't even that common nowadays. Most defensively minded guys are more workhorses than anything, and are expected to pass, push forwards and move just like any other player.
If you have a defensively minded guy in the double pivot, the other is always going to be a creative type.
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Re: Should more teams play with one DM ?
by S32TABLANCA Sun Apr 15, 2012 10:58 pm
Sushi Master wrote:This. The fact that most teams have adapted 4-2-3-1 does not mean that both "DMs" are defensive in nature. Playing deep does not mean you are defensively oriented.Great Leader Sprucenuce wrote:lol wut most teams play with one DM.......
Dont confuse b2b,dlp and dm to be the same
Hell, 1 dimensional DMs aren't even that common nowadays. Most defensively minded guys are more workhorses than anything, and are expected to pass, push forwards and move just like any other player.
If you have a defensively minded guy in the double pivot, the other is always going to be a creative type.
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Re: Should more teams play with one DM ?
by Sushi Master Sun Apr 15, 2012 11:00 pm
Are you proving my point?
Khedira-Alonso is a perfect example of what I meant.
Khedira-Alonso is a perfect example of what I meant.
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Re: Should more teams play with one DM ?
by Ganso Sun Apr 15, 2012 11:01 pm
khedira and xabi are both shet defensively,i cringe when i have to say that they are dms
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Re: Should more teams play with one DM ?
by che Sun Apr 15, 2012 11:05 pm
noone else can afford so much hgh to improve their stamina :vagi:
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Re: Should more teams play with one DM ?
by Great Leader Sprucenuce Sun Apr 15, 2012 11:07 pm
che wrote:noone else can afford so much hgh to improve their stamina :vagi:
We have played 4-3-3 with lone DM this season, infact sometimes we have played 4-3-3 with no DM's :lol!:
Is Tiote taking HGH?
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Re: Should more teams play with one DM ?
by Swanhends Sun Apr 15, 2012 11:08 pm
Stramaccioni's lone DM is Stankovic 
Stramaccioni the innovator
Stramaccioni the innovator
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Re: Should more teams play with one DM ?
by che Sun Apr 15, 2012 11:09 pm
well his head sure as hell doesn't look natural
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Re: Should more teams play with one DM ?
by Ganso Sun Apr 15, 2012 11:11 pm
:lol!:che wrote:well his head sure as hell doesn't look natural
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Re: Should more teams play with one DM ?
by The Franchise Mon Apr 16, 2012 1:31 am
Easy to say, hard to find the right player.
I get what the OP means though.
Instead of two players, one player deep to start plays with his composure (Alonso, Pirlo, Arteta et al) and needing another to cover his ass defensively (Sami, Vidal, Song et al) you can someone who excels in both areas (Busquets) and thus frees up room elsewhere to play more playmaker types.
But again, finding those kinds of players is very rare now because of years we have seen more and more "specialists" who really are incomplete players who seem capable of only doing one job at a time.
I get what the OP means though.
Instead of two players, one player deep to start plays with his composure (Alonso, Pirlo, Arteta et al) and needing another to cover his ass defensively (Sami, Vidal, Song et al) you can someone who excels in both areas (Busquets) and thus frees up room elsewhere to play more playmaker types.
But again, finding those kinds of players is very rare now because of years we have seen more and more "specialists" who really are incomplete players who seem capable of only doing one job at a time.
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Re: Should more teams play with one DM ?
by juventus101 Mon Apr 16, 2012 1:51 am
Most teams alreadydo play with only one DM.
Bayern has Gustavo. Schweinsteiger is a box to box playmaker (most complete midfielder in the world), and Kroos is a playmaker/attacking mid.
Juventus have Vidal. Pirlo is a pure DLP and Marchisio is a box to box.
Real have Khedira. Alonso is similar to Schweini, aka not a DM.
City have Yaya/De Jong. Barry is obviously not a DM.
Milan play with 2 DMs sometimes, but only because of all their injury problems. Not sure how Chelsea usually plays, but they used to play with Essien as a lone DM with Ballack/
Ramires/Lampard around him.
United used to play with no pure DM, with Fletcher and Carrick, though Scholes used to play too whose a DM.
Dortmund plays with Bender when healthy. Gundogan is a playmaker.
Schalke plays with Jermaine Jones. Holtby/Jurado are attacking mids.
Bayern has Gustavo. Schweinsteiger is a box to box playmaker (most complete midfielder in the world), and Kroos is a playmaker/attacking mid.
Juventus have Vidal. Pirlo is a pure DLP and Marchisio is a box to box.
Real have Khedira. Alonso is similar to Schweini, aka not a DM.
City have Yaya/De Jong. Barry is obviously not a DM.
Milan play with 2 DMs sometimes, but only because of all their injury problems. Not sure how Chelsea usually plays, but they used to play with Essien as a lone DM with Ballack/
Ramires/Lampard around him.
United used to play with no pure DM, with Fletcher and Carrick, though Scholes used to play too whose a DM.
Dortmund plays with Bender when healthy. Gundogan is a playmaker.
Schalke plays with Jermaine Jones. Holtby/Jurado are attacking mids.
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Re: Should more teams play with one DM ?
by Blackmore. Mon Apr 16, 2012 2:21 am
Scholes a DM? :laughing:
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Re: Should more teams play with one DM ?
by phenom Mon Apr 16, 2012 7:04 am
u need to have makelele to be able to play with just 1 DM.he was awesome for madrid
4 1 2 1 2 was such a great formation for madrid ,they played the most sexy football ever with that formation
salgado helguera(LOL) heirro carlos
makelele
figo solari
zidane
raul ronaldo
wow just wow,if we had half a decent CB in place of helguera we could have been so much more secure and successful
4 1 2 1 2 was such a great formation for madrid ,they played the most sexy football ever with that formation
salgado helguera(LOL) heirro carlos
makelele
figo solari
zidane
raul ronaldo
wow just wow,if we had half a decent CB in place of helguera we could have been so much more secure and successful
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Re: Should more teams play with one DM ?
by The Franchise Mon Apr 16, 2012 3:56 pm
That formation might not work as well now though in all honesty.
2 out and out strikers, your giving up the midfield to be outnumbered.
Especially when the only one intrested in defending in that midfield would be Makelele and the only one intrested in defending in attack was Raul.
Just not enough overall workrate to be feasable.
2 out and out strikers, your giving up the midfield to be outnumbered.
Especially when the only one intrested in defending in that midfield would be Makelele and the only one intrested in defending in attack was Raul.
Just not enough overall workrate to be feasable.
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Re: Should more teams play with one DM ?
by Mr Nick09 Mon Apr 16, 2012 4:05 pm
yeah, i would have no faith for that formation, it was looking more like a 442 anyway, with Zidane on the left and driving inward. No player alone can do that job, and even makelele had support.
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Re: Should more teams play with one DM ?
by Great Leader Sprucenuce Mon Apr 16, 2012 4:17 pm
Albiceleste wrote:Yaya a DM?
the funny thing is Barry has been more of a DM than Yaya for City but Barry is'nt a DM and Yaya is
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Re: Should more teams play with one DM ?
by S32TABLANCA Mon Apr 16, 2012 5:28 pm
Sushi Master wrote:Are you proving my point?
Khedira-Alonso is a perfect example of what I meant.
No, I am disproving you because Alonso plays way behind Khedira. Are you saying Khedira is more creative than Xabi?
phenom wrote:u need to have makelele to be able to play with just 1 DM.he was awesome for madrid
4 1 2 1 2 was such a great formation for madrid ,they played the most sexy football ever with that formation
salgado helguera(LOL) heirro carlos
makelele
figo solari
zidane
raul ronaldo
wow just wow,if we had half a decent CB in place of helguera we could have been so much more secure and successful
VDB wanted to buy Nesta, so that half decent CB would be there, but the formation doesnt really work.
-Salgado-Nesta-Hierro-Carlos
-----------Makalele
-------Zidane---Solari
-Figo-------------------Raul
------------Ronaldo
Anachronistic perhaps, but much more stable.
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Re: Should more teams play with one DM ?
by Great Leader Sprucenuce Mon Apr 16, 2012 5:40 pm
RealGunner wrote:We play with None
Sometimes we dont even play with CM's........ R.Taylor-Perch-Jonas
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