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Define diving
by BarrileteCosmico Tue Jun 21, 2011 2:25 am
A lot of people seem to use diving rather liberally in my opinion. Do you differentiate between contact and no-contact diving? From throwing yourself and falling easily? Diving and making a meal out of a foul?
Discuss
Discuss
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Re: Define diving
by Körbl Tue Jun 21, 2011 2:32 am
For me, its making a meal out of a contact Ex
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Re: Define diving
by Körbl Tue Jun 21, 2011 2:41 am
Lol, no , Just a huge fan of theirs, when your country can't give you quality football you have to find someone to support. Most of the country is divided between Brazilian fan and Argentina fans; luckily I am a Brazilian fan.
need to watch more league matches though.
need to watch more league matches though.
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Re: Define diving
by Körbl Tue Jun 21, 2011 3:44 am
Well, he has Divez and busquest as his new team mates; might as well start crowning them the Olympic diving champions already
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Re: Define diving
by Serge Gnabry Tue Jun 21, 2011 3:44 am
Going down when you haven't even been fouled (exception if you go down to avoid serious injury) and going down if you could have battled though it and went on.
Not every hold on your jersey or contact is reason to wail your arms and go down. I don't have respect for these kind of players.
So yes for me there can be a foul and a dive on the same play.
Not every hold on your jersey or contact is reason to wail your arms and go down. I don't have respect for these kind of players.
So yes for me there can be a foul and a dive on the same play.
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Re: Define diving
by Clownbaby Tue Jun 21, 2011 4:09 am
go look in a dictionary, its right below a picture of sergio busquets and right above a picture of cristiano ronaldo
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Re: Define diving
by VivaStPauli Tue Jun 21, 2011 8:42 am
Well a dive is anything where a player goes down when he didn't physically have to.
So there can be a dive and a foul in the same action. And I think exaggaratnig contact isn't always as bad, especially when a player is getting fouled a lot and wants some protection, I will understand that at times, when lightweight players do it.
Grinding out free kicks is another thing, though, and I hate it. Especially going down when there wasn't even any contact should get you banned for at least two matches if video evidence of it is reviewed after the match.
Tons of kudos for the Serie A to actually do something about it.
In the Bundesliga at least Refs tend to yellow-card players who dive too blatantly, so it's a start, but I'd prefer the Serie A route.
So there can be a dive and a foul in the same action. And I think exaggaratnig contact isn't always as bad, especially when a player is getting fouled a lot and wants some protection, I will understand that at times, when lightweight players do it.
Grinding out free kicks is another thing, though, and I hate it. Especially going down when there wasn't even any contact should get you banned for at least two matches if video evidence of it is reviewed after the match.
Tons of kudos for the Serie A to actually do something about it.
In the Bundesliga at least Refs tend to yellow-card players who dive too blatantly, so it's a start, but I'd prefer the Serie A route.
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Re: Define diving
by BarcaKizz Tue Jun 21, 2011 8:50 am
Sir_Psycho_Sexy91 wrote:this
For me thats play-acting not diving. There's a difference, because there are players who do one and not the other. Example, Busquets is an actor, not much of a diver. Never seen him dribbling then feign contact to win a penalty for example. He just rolls around etc. when he does get fouled to attempt to influence the refs decision.
Play-acting = Disgraceful, annoying and unneeded.
Diving= Disgraceful and blatant cheating.
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Re: Define diving
by Raptorgunner Tue Jun 21, 2011 8:51 am
Clownbaby wrote:go look in a dictionary, its right below a picture of sergio busquets and right above a picture of cristiano ronaldo
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Re: Define diving
by M99 Tue Jun 21, 2011 9:50 am
Diving is the sport of jumping or falling into water from a platform or springboard, sometimes while performing acrobatics. Diving is an internationally-recognized sport that is part of the Olympic Games. In addition, unstructured and non-competitive diving is a recreational pastime.
Diving is one of the most popular Olympic sports with spectators. Competitors possess many of the same characteristics as gymnasts and dancers, including strength, flexibility, kinaesthetic judgment and air awareness.
China came to prominence several decades ago when the sport was revolutionized by national coach Liang Boxi and after intense study of the dominant Louganis. China has lost few world titles since. The success of Sergio Busquets has led to Catalan strength in diving internationally. Other noted countries in the sport include Italy, Australia and Canada.
Diving is one of the most popular Olympic sports with spectators. Competitors possess many of the same characteristics as gymnasts and dancers, including strength, flexibility, kinaesthetic judgment and air awareness.
China came to prominence several decades ago when the sport was revolutionized by national coach Liang Boxi and after intense study of the dominant Louganis. China has lost few world titles since. The success of Sergio Busquets has led to Catalan strength in diving internationally. Other noted countries in the sport include Italy, Australia and Canada.
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Re: Define diving
by BiasedMilanFan3 Tue Jun 21, 2011 10:01 am
I'm pretty sure i've seen a definition of it somewhere before and it was something like "simulating a foul when no contact was given by the opposing player"
I'm not entirely sure though
I'm not entirely sure though
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Re: Define diving
by pdolson Tue Jun 21, 2011 10:27 am
diving is cheating. any idiot who thinks diving is a part of football or an art or anything stupid like that is not a real football fan.
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Re: Define diving
by The Verminator Tue Jun 21, 2011 1:52 pm
Diving in my opinion, is when there is not enough contact to send you down, but you go down anyway. Play acting, is sorta when you fall after the dive or a legal tackle, and you make a meal out of it.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mydqu3IUpoU
If you watch the first dive, Mascherano dives after Adebayor just lightly touches him. That's the dive. Then when Mascherano goes down, he clutches his face, pretending to be in pain.
You can watch the rest of the video for fun
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mydqu3IUpoU
If you watch the first dive, Mascherano dives after Adebayor just lightly touches him. That's the dive. Then when Mascherano goes down, he clutches his face, pretending to be in pain.
You can watch the rest of the video for fun
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Re: Define diving
by Harmonica Tue Jun 21, 2011 2:08 pm
When you get unfair advantage from a challenge.
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Re: Define diving
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Re: Define diving
by the xcx Tue Jun 21, 2011 2:28 pm
LOOOOOL, Alves is like "Fuuuuu, my leg is broken"xabi wrote:
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Re: Define diving
by Zees Tue Jun 21, 2011 11:51 pm
Diving is art,its part of the gamepdolson wrote:diving is cheating. any idiot who thinks diving is a part of football or an art or anything stupid like that is not a real football fan.
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Re: Define diving
by BarrileteCosmico Wed Jun 22, 2011 6:09 am
Alright, so according to you guys, is RVP diving when he does the following:
RVP wrote:
"Sometimes when you are in the middle of an 'action' and you get a little push, and you know there's nothing more to take. Basically, the guy pushed you and finished the whole action. Then you're in the right
to show, in a way, to the referee that you've been pushed. Know what I mean?
"That's not really diving. It's just saying: 'Come on, he just pushed me, so I can't score now'. You sometimes make a little movement with your arms or with your body, yeah. But I don't think that's really cheating. I never have the intention to dive. Just to play honest football. I am against divers. It is just not honest, but it is difficult. But sometimes you are knocked off balance a bit and it looks a bit funny.
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Re: Define diving
by Adit Wed Jun 22, 2011 6:10 am
kinda of thing that la masia academy players are all mastered.
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