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Post by BarrileteCosmico Tue Nov 29, 2011 3:43 pm

I'm rather annoyed at the phrase "world class" and how it's being thrown around so often lately. So we're going to define it, once in for all, and vote on the "best" definition for the meaningless phrase. After that, the phrase will only be used with that definition in mind in the context of the forum.

So here's the first step: Define World Class.
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Post by Ganso Tue Nov 29, 2011 3:50 pm

if we were to pick a 23 men best team in the world,this player would be in it
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Post by Mamad Tue Nov 29, 2011 3:51 pm

so there is only 2 or 3 World Class goalkeeper? we can say this for CF, CB and all positions.
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Post by EarlyPrototype Tue Nov 29, 2011 3:53 pm

Someone who is among the very best of his position. No top 5s or top 10s there could be few or many.
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Post by teamanarchy Tue Nov 29, 2011 3:54 pm

For me, it would mean that said player is roughly in the top 5 of players in his position across the globe
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Post by Amar Tue Nov 29, 2011 3:55 pm

IMO, its the top 2 players from each of their respective positions.
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Post by arabprince Tue Nov 29, 2011 3:55 pm

Like above. A player who can be argued to be the best in his position. Ex vidic=wc, bonera\=wc
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Post by EarlyPrototype Tue Nov 29, 2011 3:57 pm

the_gooner wrote:IMO, its the top 2 players from each of their respective positions.

That means Casillias and Neuer are the only world class keepers in the world.
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Post by Swanhends Tue Nov 29, 2011 3:58 pm

Ganso wrote:if we were to pick a 23 men best team in the world,this player would be in it

Well that was easy :coffee:

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Post by arabprince Tue Nov 29, 2011 4:00 pm

EarlyPrototype wrote:
the_gooner wrote:IMO, its the top 2 players from each of their respective positions.

That means DE GEA and Neuer are the only world class keepers in the world.

Basically :coffee:
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Post by Dnmac4 Tue Nov 29, 2011 4:03 pm

IMO, the best definition is if someone asks you or says is player x world class and an immediate yes doesn't pop in you head or come out of your mouth then the answer is no. If you have to think about it at all then IMO that player is not world class.

You can't really do it by position because some positions have a good amount of WC players and some only have a few.
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Post by Iceman Tue Nov 29, 2011 4:07 pm

This is where you go wrong, for me. I don't see the term "World Class" as a definition, but I see it more as a description
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Post by Great Leader Sprucenuce Tue Nov 29, 2011 4:09 pm

I would say top 5 in thier position but we all know there is'nt 5 world class LB's Laughing
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Post by VanDeezNuts Tue Nov 29, 2011 4:09 pm

top 5 in that position

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Post by EarlyPrototype Tue Nov 29, 2011 4:11 pm

dnmac4 wrote:IMO, the best definition is if someone asks you or says is player x world class and an immediate yes doesn't pop in you head or come out of your mouth then the answer is no. If you have to think about it at all then IMO that player is not world class.

You can't really do it by position because some positions have a good amount of WC players and some only have a few.

I actually agree with this.


A world class player is basically someone who we all recognize as easily one of the best in the world.

Top 5s don't really work because you could have way more world class strikers than defenders.
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Post by zizzle Tue Nov 29, 2011 4:17 pm

a world class player is someone with outstanding performance on the highest level for a long period of time (more than 1 season at least)


"top x in their position" and such defitions are not exactly acurate, for example you can name more than 10 WC forwards, while we cant even name 5 decent LBs these days

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Post by Gil Tue Nov 29, 2011 4:19 pm

The elite in their position.

There are more "World Class" strikers in today's game than rights backs or defensive midfielders for example.

If you were to go by Ganso's definition then Messi, van Persie, Rooney & maybe Benzema would be the only "World Class" strikers out there.

When in reality the likes of Suarez, Aguero, David Villa, Gomez, Cavani etc are just as good.


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Post by michael1 Tue Nov 29, 2011 4:19 pm

Top 5 in the world in there position.
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Post by Ganso Tue Nov 29, 2011 4:20 pm

Gil wrote:The elite in their position.

There are more "World Class" strikers in today's game than rights backs or defensive midfielders for example.
im pretty sure thats how it has always been
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Post by hrealmadrid Tue Nov 29, 2011 4:23 pm

deezydeez wrote:top 5 in that position

Agreed. I think of world class as among the very best in that particular position.

Also, I regard "world class" very differently from having or being "class"

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Post by Gil Tue Nov 29, 2011 4:25 pm

Ganso wrote:
Gil wrote:The elite in their position.

There are more "World Class" strikers in today's game than rights backs or defensive midfielders for example.
im pretty sure thats how it has always been

Edited my earlier post.

So by your definition someone like Micah Richards could be a World Class player but Aguero & Dzeko wouldn't even though their both better footballers?
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Post by EarlyPrototype Tue Nov 29, 2011 4:26 pm

hrealmadrid wrote:
deezydeez wrote:top 5 in that position

Agreed. I think of world class as among the very best in that particular position.

Also, I regard "world class" very differently from having or being "class"


Messi
Higuain
RVP
Gomez
Rooney
are all world class

Suarez
Eto'o
Ibra
Cavani could all make a case for themselves (just an example)

Take for example LB's

Cole
Evra
Marcelo (haters stfu)
Lahm
Clichy? Enrique? already running out of ideas.

Using top 5's we are assuming every position produces the same amount of players.
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Post by Zealous Tue Nov 29, 2011 4:27 pm

A player who would walk into any side in the world. So top 1 or 2.
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Post by Nehpets Tue Nov 29, 2011 4:30 pm

Emmanuel Eboue.

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Post by Ganso Tue Nov 29, 2011 4:31 pm

Gil wrote:
Ganso wrote:
Gil wrote:The elite in their position.

There are more "World Class" strikers in today's game than rights backs or defensive midfielders for example.
im pretty sure thats how it has always been

Edited my earlier post.

So by your definition someone like Micah Richards could be a World Class player but Aguero & Dzeko wouldn't even though their both better footballers?
thats the thing,world class is a level above a great player.

Richards world class?sagna,alves,lahm,zanetti,ivanovic,ramos are better than him from the top of my head
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