Re: Where are all the people who defended Boriello's singing?

by Lynx100 Fri Mar 09, 2012 7:10 am

DeviAngel wrote:Borriello is missused

Absolutely right.

His talents would be better served if he was the stadium pitch manager seeing as though he spends so much time on the turf.

Saying hes been bought to hold up a ball is crazy. If thats ALL hes there to do, and lets face it, hes not good for anything else - then putting him on the field for that reason alone is a waste of a player. if thats Contes tactic, then thats plain stupidity.

umm, yeah he dives, he's dumb, I get it. sure I'll admit it, I'd admit it before as well.

HOWEVER, Juventus as a whole has not been convincing as they once were. It's kind of like the Pazzini situation but not to the same extreme - Pazzini would look piss poor if you judged him based on Inter's performances because he's receiving nothing, but with Italy he was very convincing and he was very convincing last season with a different Inter and Sampdoria.

WHEN Juventus regain their form, and Borriello begins missing sitters or not tracking back or not getting involved in any offensive situation, then we can talk.

It's also difficult for a player to do so well when he's receiving hate from his own fans, give him time to prove himself or disprove himself because I haven't seen either happen yet

Hes done (or not done rather) enough to show how useless he is.
The worst part is - hes keeping Matri and Quag out of the line-up.
Although we didnt spend too much money on him, his arrival at Juve gives our best forwards even less time. That fact alone is the worst part of his signing.

Hell, ADP and Quags hold the ball up better than him. Its not like you can hit the ball long to a big towering forward and it sticks (like Ibra). He loses the ball half the time anyway if hes not already on the floor. ADP/Quags can not only hold up the ball but have the creativity and nous to create/score goals.

Useless.

There's a reason Milan and Roma got rid of him

Spot on.

lucianomoggi wrote:considering that we have no striker that has +20 goals or +20 assists it mean they are all terrible its not only BORIELLO;

MATRI, QUAGLIARELA, VUCINC, BORIELLO, GIACHERINI, PEPE, KRASIC, ELIAH,

all of these players supposed to score goals or make assists so this mean all of them are trash

most of them will be dropped by JUVENTUS just like AMAURI, DIEGO, FELIPE MELO

Thats too harsh a statement. Some of those players have immense talent but just not showing their potential so theyre not trash.

Boriello on the other hand, has NO talent that the rest done have. He offers absolutely NOTHING different to this group that we either lack or need.

by zarola Fri Mar 09, 2012 8:03 pm

Borriello statistically is up there with Matri (maybe even better, IDK the specifics) , quagliarella, vucinic, giaccherini, pepe, krasic and elia. To say THEY have talent and potential but BORRIELLO doesn't even though they're all not doing that great is very flawed logic. Yes, there are reasons why Milan and Roma got rid of him, but there's also reasons why big teams like Roma, Milan and Juventus would want him in the first place.

by baresi Fri Mar 09, 2012 8:31 pm

I don't know the logic behind this hate!!
Bo is good, he has specific characteristics which all must know by now, HE CANT BE UPFRONT ALONE, he is good at holding the ball but in Juve who is holding the ball for?

by TrezeGent Fri Mar 09, 2012 9:39 pm

Baresi: Pirlo is not that good, that's why we got rid of him. Boriello is good, he cant be upfront alone.

Mind much? They're not as dumb as you think.

I just don't wanna start arguing how bad boriello is. If he was good you should've sticked with him.

Even you know how bad he is, why bother?

by baresi Fri Mar 09, 2012 9:48 pm

juvefan4life wrote:Baresi: Pirlo is not that good, that's why we got rid of him. Boriello is good, he cant be upfront alone.

Mind much? They're not as dumb as you think.

I just don't wanna start arguing how bad boriello is. If he was good you should've sticked with him.

Even you know how bad he is, why bother?

he is not "Milan" good, he is perfect for teams aiming for CL spot, plus he is on loan.

by TrezeGent Fri Mar 09, 2012 9:54 pm

How?

Can't make it to a Roma first line up,who play excellent football and aim for CL. Played two/three games as a starter with us and was absolutely useless. Remember how Luca Toni falls down every time he gets the ball? Boriello does the exact same thing, just a bit better.

I don't care about his personality, but he bitches about everything related to him during the game and is annoying as fu*k.

In his first game out of Roma (meanwhile against Roma) is ready to fight with players who were his teammates a week ago.

He just sucks man, I wonder what were Juventus thinking when we loaned him. Not a single good thing did Juventus get from him till today, and Im convinced we wont get one in the future either.

by baresi Fri Mar 09, 2012 10:08 pm

juvefan4life wrote:How?

Can't make it to a Roma first line up,who play excellent football and aim for CL. Played two/three games as a starter with us and was absolutely useless. Remember how Luca Toni falls down every time he gets the ball? Boriello does the exact same thing, just a bit better.

I don't care about his personality, but he bitches about everything related to him during the game and is annoying as fu*k.

In his first game out of Roma (meanwhile against Roma) is ready to fight with players who were his teammates a week ago.

He just sucks man, I wonder what were Juventus thinking when we loaned him. Not a single good thing did Juventus get from him till today, and Im convinced we wont get one in the future either.

man you have nothing to lose in getting him, loan deal if he does good you keep him if not you send him back, you got rid of Amauri and his high wages, you needed him, you needed to rest players and he was available. not a big deal if you ask me, it was a risky business but clubs do it all the time, Boateng, Nocerrino, Muntari, even Robinho to some extent.

by Lynx100 Sat Mar 10, 2012 3:09 am

We have plenty to lose! This has NOTHING to do with money -we didn't spend a lot on him.

THE MAIN PROBLEM IS - his prescence means even LESS time for Quags and ADP, our most creative forwards and those most likely to create goals.
He is a waste of space.

if you're going to buy someone to start first XI they have to be quality (BORIELLO is not). If youre buying someone to be part of a rotation policy, then they shouldn't be DISLODGING better players from e starting XI in important games (Which BORIELLO is)

Just because Milan and Roma got him doesn't mean that we should get him. He's obviously failed at 2 big clubs who thout he was good and then realised their mistakes when he turned out shit. We shouldn't be repeating the same mistakes the other clubs made with him... TWICE! and saying that other clubs saw something in him in the first place so we should get him is the most retarded logic I've ever heard for a continually failing player.

Look at our loan player record - we end up signing most of them fcking retarded buying policies we have. That's my fear number 2.

by johniet Sat Mar 10, 2012 5:14 pm

baresi wrote:
juvefan4life wrote:Baresi: Pirlo is not that good, that's why we got rid of him. Boriello is good, he cant be upfront alone.

Mind much? They're not as dumb as you think.

I just don't wanna start arguing how bad boriello is. If he was good you should've sticked with him.

Even you know how bad he is, why bother?
he is not "Milan" good, he is perfect for teams aiming for CL spot, plus he is on loan.

what an ungrateful douchebag :facepalm:

by DeviAngel Sat Mar 10, 2012 5:34 pm

baresi wrote:
juvefan4life wrote:Baresi: Pirlo is not that good, that's why we got rid of him. Boriello is good, he cant be upfront alone.

Mind much? They're not as dumb as you think.

I just don't wanna start arguing how bad boriello is. If he was good you should've sticked with him.

Even you know how bad he is, why bother?
he is not "Milan" good, he is perfect for teams aiming for CL spot, plus he is on loan.

Perfect than we fight for the title and aim for it so he is not for our team either, you said it Smile

by baresi Sat Mar 10, 2012 6:25 pm

DeviAngel wrote:
baresi wrote:
juvefan4life wrote:Baresi: Pirlo is not that good, that's why we got rid of him. Boriello is good, he cant be upfront alone.

Mind much? They're not as dumb as you think.

I just don't wanna start arguing how bad boriello is. If he was good you should've sticked with him.

Even you know how bad he is, why bother?
he is not "Milan" good, he is perfect for teams aiming for CL spot, plus he is on loan.

Perfect than we fight for the title and aim for it so he is not for our team either, you said it

exactly what I am trying to say Devi, at the beginning of the season Juve announced the season objective was a CL qualification spot, anything more is extra, so many of the transfers where made to fulfill this objective, don't tell me this will be the Juve squad for next season when playing in the CL. Bo was/is meant to rest the forwards, which is happening now, you will soon have one tight schedule to deal with, and Matri, Quaq, and Vucinic needed this rest, after the departure of Amauri and Iaquinta who would you have rotated? and who was available in January for Juve to pick.???

Pirlo will be of great use for you guys next season if rested in a good way.

by DeviAngel Sat Mar 10, 2012 7:40 pm

baresi wrote:
DeviAngel wrote:
baresi wrote:
juvefan4life wrote:Baresi: Pirlo is not that good, that's why we got rid of him. Boriello is good, he cant be upfront alone.

Mind much? They're not as dumb as you think.

I just don't wanna start arguing how bad boriello is. If he was good you should've sticked with him.

Even you know how bad he is, why bother?
he is not "Milan" good, he is perfect for teams aiming for CL spot, plus he is on loan.

Perfect than we fight for the title and aim for it so he is not for our team either, you said it
exactly what I am trying to say Devi, at the beginning of the season Juve announced the season objective was a CL qualification spot, anything more is extra, so many of the transfers where made to fulfill this objective, don't tell me this will be the Juve squad for next season when playing in the CL. Bo was/is meant to rest the forwards, which is happening now, you will soon have one tight schedule to deal with, and Matri, Quaq, and Vucinic needed this rest, after the departure of Amauri and Iaquinta who would you have rotated? and who was available in January for Juve to pick.???

Pirlo will be of great use for you guys next season if rested in a good way.

with Bouy Pogba and one class player in midfield there will be one in attack I am sure and back up striker ( looking at Gilardinho)

by Lynx100 Sat Mar 10, 2012 8:29 pm

baresi wrote:
exactly what I am trying to say Devi, at the beginning of the season Juve announced the season objective was a CL qualification spot, anything more is extra, so many of the transfers where made to fulfill this objective, don't tell me this will be the Juve squad for next season when playing in the CL. Bo was/is meant to rest the forwards, which is happening now, you will soon have one tight schedule to deal with, and Matri, Quaq, and Vucinic needed this rest, after the departure of Amauri and Iaquinta who would you have rotated? and who was available in January for Juve to pick.???

Pirlo will be of great use for you guys next season if rested in a good way.

Matri Quag and Vucinic needed a rest? Give me a frickin break.
Quags has barely played 8 whole games in total.
We also have ADP, Pepe, Elia on top who can play in the front 3
AND if were playing a 3-5-2 which conte started playing, we only need TWO up front.
Dont start with the 'Boriello was there to rest the forwards' business - its complete nonesense.
Boriello is keeping better players off the pitch while spending all his time lying on the pitch.
He hasnt even scored ONCE in 2 months.
I wouldnt mind if we had no forward options on the bench, but we do.
OH, dont forget, we decided that we would SELL half of Ciro Immobile rather than bring him back if we NEEDED forwards.
What a load of rubbish.
Boriello is a TERRIBLE signing. Hes a distinctly average player and hes made Juve a worse team by coming in and keeping other players out of the starting XI.

DeviAngel wrote:with Bouy Pogba and one class player in midfield there will be one in attack I am sure and back up striker ( looking at Gilardinho)

Glad to see youre finally coming around the the idea that Pogba is a beast - u resisted for so long Smile

by DeviAngel Sat Mar 10, 2012 8:36 pm

No no u got confused I am not against Pogba I just said that we have enough but when he is here I support him You know I love all players that wear our jersey even Marco Motta Very Happy

by Lynx100 Sat Mar 10, 2012 8:49 pm

DeviAngel wrote:No no u got confused I am not against Pogba I just said that we have enough but when he is here I support him You know I love all players that wear our jersey even Marco Motta

by The_ItalianFool Sun Mar 11, 2012 3:38 am

Lynx100 wrote:
baresi wrote:
exactly what I am trying to say Devi, at the beginning of the season Juve announced the season objective was a CL qualification spot, anything more is extra, so many of the transfers where made to fulfill this objective, don't tell me this will be the Juve squad for next season when playing in the CL. Bo was/is meant to rest the forwards, which is happening now, you will soon have one tight schedule to deal with, and Matri, Quaq, and Vucinic needed this rest, after the departure of Amauri and Iaquinta who would you have rotated? and who was available in January for Juve to pick.???

Pirlo will be of great use for you guys next season if rested in a good way.

Matri Quag and Vucinic needed a rest? Give me a frickin break.
Quags has barely played 8 whole games in total.
We also have ADP, Pepe, Elia on top who can play in the front 3
AND if were playing a 3-5-2 which conte started playing, we only need TWO up front.
Dont start with the 'Boriello was there to rest the forwards' business - its complete nonesense.
Boriello is keeping better players off the pitch while spending all his time lying on the pitch.
He hasnt even scored ONCE in 2 months.
I wouldnt mind if we had no forward options on the bench, but we do.
OH, dont forget, we decided that we would SELL half of Ciro Immobile rather than bring him back if we NEEDED forwards.
What a load of rubbish.
Boriello is a TERRIBLE signing. Hes a distinctly average player and hes made Juve a worse team by coming in and keeping other players out of the starting XI.

DeviAngel wrote:with Bouy Pogba and one class player in midfield there will be one in attack I am sure and back up striker ( looking at Gilardinho)

Glad to see youre finally coming around the the idea that Pogba is a beast - u resisted for so long

Sounds like Stronzo 2.0

by Lynx100 Sun Mar 11, 2012 3:53 am

Well Ive always maintained that he was one of the most knowledgable posters on the forum - So I guess I should say thank you

So - Do you actually have anything useful/worthwhile to contribute to the discussion?? or is that it?

by zarola Sun Mar 11, 2012 2:55 pm

Op misquoted me, i've never said such things about borriello's singing!

by DeviAngel Sun Mar 11, 2012 3:02 pm

I smell goal from Borriello today

by Lynx100 Sun Mar 11, 2012 8:29 pm

DeviAngel wrote:I smell goal from Borriello today

Sorry

by Lynx100 Sun Mar 11, 2012 8:33 pm

zarola wrote:Op misquoted me, i've never said such things about borriello's singing!

For you Zarola:

https://goallegacy.forumotion.com/t14754-i-present-to-you-marco-borriello

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by zarola Mon Mar 12, 2012 12:57 am

Lynx100 wrote:
zarola wrote:Op misquoted me, i've never said such things about borriello's singing!

For you Zarola:

https://goallegacy.forumotion.com/t14754-i-present-to-you-marco-borriello

Page 1. Post number 4.

by dronte Mon Mar 12, 2012 8:32 am

zarola wrote:
Lynx100 wrote:
zarola wrote:Op misquoted me, i've never said such things about borriello's singing!

For you Zarola:

https://goallegacy.forumotion.com/t14754-i-present-to-you-marco-borriello

Page 1. Post number 4.

Hahaha this made my day Very Happy

by Lynx100 Mon Mar 12, 2012 8:44 am

oh dear.... my age (and eyesight) is starting to show....how embarassing.. Shocked

by 7amood11 Mon Mar 12, 2012 11:06 am

Lynx100 wrote:No, i mean the fans on this board who supported Boriello signing.. and told me - 'just you wait, he'll prove you wrong'

I'm going to admit that I was wrong.

I thought that Borriello could've been a good DEPTH player, I am fairly certain I said that somewhere.

We've been using him too much, and every time, he played horribly. I was wrong on this one.

by DiRocco Mon Mar 12, 2012 5:47 pm

baresi wrote:
OH, dont forget, we decided that we would SELL half of Ciro Immobile rather than bring him back if we NEEDED forwards.
What a load of rubbish.

Although I am not generally a Juve fan, I must say this might be the best thing you've said in this thread. Basically you guys send out Immobile to get experience and all of those good reasons. The guy becomes a BEAST in Serie B, and then you sell half of his rights. LOL! That is CRAZY! He does exactly what you hope an on loan forwad will do, and for some reason they dont appreciate it. Juve really need to fix this mindset. Bad for Italian football. Top talents need to train with world class players to become world class. You guys really should have just brought back Immobile instead of signing OUR (Roma) left overs. The guy is or was the top scorer in the second division. WHAT MORE CAN A CLUB WANT from a loaned out forward. Honestly. Just a terrible mindset from your top management. I would love if Immobile found his way to Roma in the summer. Very promising forward.

BTW. Boriello is GARBAGE!!!! I cant thank Juve enough for taking him off our hands. It is so nice to know there is no chance he will find his way on the field and ruin our attack.

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