Re: Where should Hoilett go?

by EarlyPrototype Mon Apr 02, 2012 11:51 pm

Played pretty well today despite the loss. He is clearly outgrowing is boots at Blackburn. He surely has to leave in the summer.

I don't know where he would fit in at Arsenal.

----------------RVP--------------

Poldi--------Hoilett---------Ox

:bow:

by Great Leader Sprucenuce Mon Apr 02, 2012 11:52 pm

Should join Newcastle as Ba and HBA's back up :coffee:

by EarlyPrototype Mon Apr 02, 2012 11:54 pm

You should play 4231

------------Cisse-----------

Hoilett-----Ba--------Arfa

------Tiote-----Cabaye---

:king:

by RealGunner Mon Apr 02, 2012 11:55 pm

Mr Nick09 wrote:Is he bound to Arsenal?

nope

by Le Samourai Mon Apr 02, 2012 11:59 pm

EarlyPrototype wrote:You should play 4222

------------Cisse-----------
--------Ba----------------
Hoilett---------------Arfa

------Tiote-----Cabaye---

:king:

by Great Leader Sprucenuce Tue Apr 03, 2012 12:01 am

EarlyPrototype wrote:You should play 4231

------------Cisse-----------

Hoilett-----Ba--------Arfa

------Tiote-----Cabaye---

:king:

4-3-3 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

Krul(Valdes)
Santon(Alves) New CB(Puyol) Colo(Pique) New LB(Abidal)
Tiote(Yaya)
Cabaye (Xavi) NEW CM (Iniesta)
Ben Arfa(Messi) Cisse(Eto'o) Ba (Henry)

We are playing 4-3-3 now and any player we buy is built to play that system and Hoilett would pretty good as a squad player IMO he could even play Iniesta's role from time to time :coffee:

by Le Samourai Tue Apr 03, 2012 12:10 am

So who ya got Mate.

Joe Allen for starters.

by Great Leader Sprucenuce Tue Apr 03, 2012 12:15 am

No idea i just know the targets are a CB, LB , CM and a young forward.

Also considering the players we have coming through and ones coming back from Injury we will have depth then to play 4-3-3 each week.

Pardew has said we have more or less completed a deal for a " top quality CB " no idea who tho.

Anyway Hoilett should join, who wants to join Arsenal or Liverpool anyways :coffee:

by Le Samourai Tue Apr 03, 2012 12:17 am

Mole you really think Pardew can pull off that 4-3-3 like Barca ,who you seem to be modelling it after...

by Mr Nick09 Tue Apr 03, 2012 12:19 am

Vertonghen Mole?

by Great Leader Sprucenuce Tue Apr 03, 2012 12:26 am

I was only playing with the Barca comparison lol, its a 4-3-3 yes but its quite different and yes i have utmost faith in Pardew, its actually more like Arsenal.

in the 4-3-3 we have passed along the ground and kept possession yes but we attack at a lot faster speed than Barca do.

Nah Nick i would be very suprised if that was it merely because the deal is supposedly already done and i dont think we could get Vertonghen without CL football.

9. We have signed a centre-half for the summer. He acknowledges we need a left-back.

We tried to sign Oxlade-Chamberlain from Southampton but were priced out.

There was once a code in the media which determined that anything that was said at a Talk-In remained inside the room. However, in the days of Twitter-feeds, Facebook, Fans’ Forums, Joey Barton being shopped to Derek Llambias et al that code has now largely been broken. Having had a true faith table at the Alan Pardew Talk-In in aid of Wembley-bound Dunston UTS FC (nee “Fed”) on 29/Mar/12, we were never going to let on about what the manager had said as we didn’t consider it good form but well, if every newspaper in the NE can quote little bits and bobs of the Talk-In and present it as their interviews, then we can summarise the lot for you here.

Arsenal ruining the possibility of Ox and Ben Arfa running at teams Mad

by Mr Nick09 Tue Apr 03, 2012 12:28 am

Well, it's not like Vertonghen is a world beater or anything... oh well.

My sources tell me that the deal is done with Albiol, congratulations.

by Le Samourai Tue Apr 03, 2012 12:30 am

Call me crazy....Zapata would be agood signing.

by Great Leader Sprucenuce Tue Apr 03, 2012 12:31 am

Mr Nick09 wrote:Well, it's not like Vertonghen is a world beater or anything... oh well.

My sources tell me that the deal is done with Albiol, congratulations.

I also dont want Vertonghen because hes too similar to Coloccini lol, plus Pardew supposedly used the words " top class "

I doubt Albiol fits the category lol also we dont even scout in Spain lol, Germany, Holland and France is how we do.

:coffee:

I agree Josh, just because of the style of defender he is would fit perfectly with Coloccini.

by Le Samourai Tue Apr 03, 2012 12:37 am

I honestly think priority No 1 for Newcastle is keep Ben Arfa on the right track.

Everything else comes after.

by justdoit_ Tue Apr 03, 2012 1:03 am

It won't happen, but to me Everton just feels right. They 100% want him (made a late bid in January), they need attacking options (Drenthe and Pienaar may not return), he'll walk right in and be first choice with no questions asked, the fans will be behind him and he can just go out there and ball for a proper club without massive pressure.

However, since Daddy is all about the endorsements, it's pretty much a lock that he'll head to a bigger name.

by isignedupjusttoseesigs Tue Apr 03, 2012 2:58 am

Great Leader Sprucenuce wrote:I was only playing with the Barca comparison lol, its a 4-3-3 yes but its quite different and yes i have utmost faith in Pardew, its actually more like Arsenal.

in the 4-3-3 we have passed along the ground and kept possession yes but we attack at a lot faster speed than Barca do.

Nah Nick i would be very suprised if that was it merely because the deal is supposedly already done and i dont think we could get Vertonghen without CL football.

9. We have signed a centre-half for the summer. He acknowledges we need a left-back.

We tried to sign Oxlade-Chamberlain from Southampton but were priced out.

There was once a code in the media which determined that anything that was said at a Talk-In remained inside the room. However, in the days of Twitter-feeds, Facebook, Fans’ Forums, Joey Barton being shopped to Derek Llambias et al that code has now largely been broken. Having had a true faith table at the Alan Pardew Talk-In in aid of Wembley-bound Dunston UTS FC (nee “Fed”) on 29/Mar/12, we were never going to let on about what the manager had said as we didn’t consider it good form but well, if every newspaper in the NE can quote little bits and bobs of the Talk-In and present it as their interviews, then we can summarise the lot for you here.

Arsenal ruining the possibility of Ox and Ben Arfa running at teams

can you post the link to the summary if you have it handy please?

by Sushi Master Tue Apr 03, 2012 3:22 am

Newcastle would make the most sence. Most ambitious club in England and he'd start from day 1.

I guess Liverpool could lure him in since Downing is shit.

by EarlyPrototype Tue Apr 03, 2012 10:26 am

Mole's ambition :bow:

by Great Leader Sprucenuce Tue Apr 03, 2012 12:20 pm

isignedupjusttoseesigs wrote:
can you post the link to the summary if you have it handy please?

http://www.true-faith.co.uk/tf/features.nsf/0/AD321B5211C80BB0802579D40075A70B?OpenDocument

Nah he wouldnt start no questions ask Sushi considering we have Ba and Ben Arfa flanking Cisse in a 4-3-3....

LOL EP iam just reporting the targets we have is all we want a CB ( already done supposedly) LB, CM and young forward.

According to the news this morning the CB signed is Douglas from Twente.

I agree with Justdoit that Everton would be a good stage for Hoilett, i hope we get him tho he would be a fantastic alternate option to Ba or Ben Arfa.

by donttreadonred Tue Apr 03, 2012 2:00 pm

No way he'd start right off the bat at Newcastle. Ba and Ben Arfa are doing a heckuva job at the moment. Moreover, the system finally seems to really suit the players.

@Mole: Really interesting analysis of the direction Pardew's taking. LB and CM are obvious areas for improvement. Guthrie has been holding his own, but is similar to us playing Spearing (it's out of need, not selection). Although Simpson has played well this season, he's never quite convinced me, either. CB is a little different. I thought Taylor was quite solid until he got injured. I'm assuming when you wrote that up that you see Taylor moving to 3rd choice, allowing a younger, more talented center-half to start.

by RED Tue Apr 03, 2012 2:09 pm

I can see him going to Arsenal. Really good player, tricky with a lot of speed. I can see him excelling at a top club. He is being wasted in a dust team like B'Burn. Lucky for him his contract ends this summer.

by lenear1030 Tue Apr 03, 2012 2:17 pm

RED 80s. wrote:I can see him going to Arsenal. Really good player, tricky with a lot of speed. I can see him excelling at a top club. He is being wasted in a dust team like B'Burn. Lucky for him his contract ends this summer.

he's not coming to arsenal we've got wingers (and ramsey :facepalm:

)

newcastle should take him even if they are 4-3-3 now. HBA will get hurt again as usual so he can fill right in there

by RED Tue Apr 03, 2012 2:39 pm

lenear1030 wrote:
RED 80s. wrote:I can see him going to Arsenal. Really good player, tricky with a lot of speed. I can see him excelling at a top club. He is being wasted in a dust team like B'Burn. Lucky for him his contract ends this summer.

he's not coming to arsenal we've got wingers (and ramsey )

newcastle should take him even if they are 4-3-3 now. HBA will get hurt again as usual so he can fill right in there

Doesn't hurt to have depth though. Plus he's free. Why not I say..

by Ali Tue Apr 03, 2012 3:18 pm

RED 80s. wrote:
lenear1030 wrote:
RED 80s. wrote:I can see him going to Arsenal. Really good player, tricky with a lot of speed. I can see him excelling at a top club. He is being wasted in a dust team like B'Burn. Lucky for him his contract ends this summer.

he's not coming to arsenal we've got wingers (and ramsey )

newcastle should take him even if they are 4-3-3 now. HBA will get hurt again as usual so he can fill right in there

Doesn't hurt to have depth though. Plus he's free. Why not I say..

He's right, I mean...I would welcome him, he's strong fast and tricky and he's a great back up for gervhino

by EarlyPrototype Tue Apr 03, 2012 3:26 pm

You mean Gervinho would be great back up. :coffee:

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