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Post by Lord Hades Mon Dec 26, 2011 5:03 am

youre telling me the midfield battle between juve and barcelona would be close and you would take juve's midfield? and you expect people to take you seriously?

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Post by Rebaño Sagrado Mon Dec 26, 2011 5:37 am

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zarola wrote:lmfao the biasedness of juventus fans is hysterical.

Pique is currently one of the best defenders in the world, chiellini hasnt been world class in over two years, hes so clusmy ajd unreliable, way too many mistakes to be considered amongst the greatest.

Barzagli is in great form and was always good, just forgotten for a while, but when you compare him to the living legend and leader Puyol, he edges it. Hence why barca have the better cbs all around.

imho Puyol>Barzagli>Pique>Chiellini

comparing xavi to someone like pirlo is fine but to compare marchisio with iniesta is an absolute joke.

Iniesta>Marchisio.... Pirlo>or=Xavi.... Busquets>Vidal


Please tell me youre joking.

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Post by DeviAngel Mon Dec 26, 2011 5:40 am

In Torino : Juve 2-3 Barcelona

In Barcelona : Barcelona 3-1/2 Juventus

About the FB's I would take them and keep Brazgali in defense with Chiellini.

Midfield as said above Iniesta in tech > Marchisio for sure but bear in mind March was played out of position for seasons now and in his position he has started to shine. Prilo well pirlo is pirlo

about Vidal and Busq sorry Vidal always makes extra man upfront and he steals 10-15 balles per game without foul and cards that tells enoguh..

But still Barca would win ... why ? MESSI !

without messi that would be fun to see
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Post by juventus101 Mon Dec 26, 2011 5:42 am

Our midfield has absolutely DOMINATED every team weve faced, including Milan, Inter, and Napoli. Creating chances hasnt been our problem. Its been finishing them. So yes, I think Juve can definitely compete in midfield with Barca, and possibly even win it. Pirlo and Xavi are on the same level, Marchisio is slightly below Iniesta, but Vidal is definitely better than Busquets. If you think Juve cant even compete, youre crazy. Itd be a very close game. At home, Juve could probably even pull out a draw. Remember that Barca also always has a rough time with italian teams. Has Messi ever even scored against an Italian team? I dont think he has.

And Pique ans Barzagli better than Chiellini? Holy crap man now ive heard some crazy stuff before, but that takes the cake. I couod understand Puyol being called better than Chiellini, but even that I wouldnt agree with. Chiellini is the best of the 4 CBs.
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Post by Forza Mon Dec 26, 2011 6:56 am

barca by a long way
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Post by Lord Hades Mon Dec 26, 2011 11:07 am

juventus101 wrote:Our midfield has absolutely DOMINATED every team weve faced, including Milan, Inter, and Napoli. Creating chances hasnt been our problem. Its been finishing them. So yes, I think Juve can definitely compete in midfield with Barca, and possibly even win it. Pirlo and Xavi are on the same level, Marchisio is slightly below Iniesta, but Vidal is definitely better than Busquets. If you think Juve cant even compete, youre crazy. Itd be a very close game. At home, Juve could probably even pull out a draw. Remember that Barca also always has a rough time with italian teams. Has Messi ever even scored against an Italian team? I dont think he has.

And Pique ans Barzagli better than Chiellini? Holy crap man now ive heard some crazy stuff before, but that takes the cake. I couod understand Puyol being called better than Chiellini, but even that I wouldnt agree with. Chiellini is the best of the 4 CBs.

pirlo currently isnt as good as xavi.. vidal isnt better than busquets , marchisio isnt slightly below iniesta lol
what next matri is almost as good as messi?

for a team that failed to make europa league last season you seem to show a lot of confident bias..
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Post by DeviAngel Mon Dec 26, 2011 11:20 am

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juventus101 wrote:Our midfield has absolutely DOMINATED every team weve faced, including Milan, Inter, and Napoli. Creating chances hasnt been our problem. Its been finishing them. So yes, I think Juve can definitely compete in midfield with Barca, and possibly even win it. Pirlo and Xavi are on the same level, Marchisio is slightly below Iniesta, but Vidal is definitely better than Busquets. If you think Juve cant even compete, youre crazy. Itd be a very close game. At home, Juve could probably even pull out a draw. Remember that Barca also always has a rough time with italian teams. Has Messi ever even scored against an Italian team? I dont think he has.

And Pique ans Barzagli better than Chiellini? Holy crap man now ive heard some crazy stuff before, but that takes the cake. I couod understand Puyol being called better than Chiellini, but even that I wouldnt agree with. Chiellini is the best of the 4 CBs.

pirlo currently isnt as good as xavi.. vidal isnt better than busquets , marchisio isnt slightly below iniesta lol
what next matri is almost as good as messi?

for a team that failed to make europa league last season you seem to show a lot of confident bias..

Last yr it was other Juve this yr its other
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Post by CroInter Mon Dec 26, 2011 12:02 pm

Champions of Universe being compared to the team that is yet to play a single game outside Italy :facepalm:
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Post by zarola Mon Dec 26, 2011 4:17 pm

lmao i could see the biasedness in chiellini being better than barzagli but to say hes better than puyol is just *bleep* ignorant.

To say marchisio is even close to iniesta is remarkably hysterical but the fact that you think vidal is better than busquets is what really scares me
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Post by CroInter Mon Dec 26, 2011 4:26 pm

Juve fans here, you are a fkn joke, seriously, except few normal ones(Luca, Devi, Italian_fool) the rest of you are just bunch of biased blind *bleep*.
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Post by Pedram Mon Dec 26, 2011 5:16 pm

Juve fans stop overrating your team. :facepalm:
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Post by Luca Mon Dec 26, 2011 5:28 pm

CroInter wrote:Juve fans here, you are a fkn joke, seriously, except few normal ones(Luca, Devi, Italian_fool) the rest of you are just bunch of biased blind *bleep*.

I made the list smoking
Yeah topics like these get out of hand easily, no shame in admitting that another team is better- especially Barcelona which is a club on another planet than Juventus right now.

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Post by feho29 Mon Dec 26, 2011 7:08 pm

its not puyol > chiellini and barzagli > bique its the way of how the team defend and you don't see a lot of spaces in juve defense this year
and juve midfield is very dynamic with vidal and marchesio
and pirlo is pirlo
so i don't see barca humiliating juve and idont see juve winning the game with pepe ,matri and estgribia against barca defense
there only hope is some long range passes from pirlo to vucinic and with his speed he can pass puyol
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Post by vivabarca38 Mon Dec 26, 2011 8:28 pm

feho29 wrote:its not puyol > chiellini and barzagli > bique its the way of how the team defend and you don't see a lot of spaces in juve defense this year
and juve midfield is very dynamic with vidal and marchesio
and pirlo is pirlo
so i don't see barca humiliating juve and idont see juve winning the game with pepe ,matri and estgribia against barca defense
there only hope is some long range passes from pirlo to vucinic and with his speed he can pass puyol
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Post by johniet Tue Dec 27, 2011 3:45 am

Pirlo=Xavi; Marchisio=Iniesta;Puyol=Chiellini;Busquets=Vidal;Shakira>Bonucci...im not being biased, seriously we have one of the best midifields in the world
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Post by CroInter Tue Dec 27, 2011 11:56 am

No you are not biased.


Have you expirienced any head trauma while you were younger? Maybe doctor droping you on ur head or simillar? Serious question.
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Post by Raptorgunner Tue Dec 27, 2011 2:35 pm

I am sorry Juve fans but Barca will beat you down. I dont see any team that would not take the same beating from Barcelona.
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Post by Lynx100 Tue Dec 27, 2011 4:33 pm

Yes, Juve would lose to the current Barca side.
I say that as a Juve supporter.

- Barca FB > Juves (without any hesitation)

-Barca CB = Juves (I DO rate Barzagli + Chiellini)

-Barca CM > Juves (Sorry, but I would take Xavi, Iniesta, Busquets/Keita/Mascherano,Fabregas > Pirlo, Marchisio, Vidal, Pazienza, Marrone ANYDAY)

-Barca forwards > Juves (Lionel Messi - end of story)

All that said - I still love my Juve.
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Post by juventus101 Tue Dec 27, 2011 9:38 pm

I never said Juve would win. Just that it would be alot closer than people are makingit seem. Juve have better CBs and possibly midfield too, but thats arguable. Barcas forwards and fullbacks are better obviously, but I think it would be a good game. 2-1 in a neutral stadium is not anything insulting to Barca. 3-1 at Camp Nou, 2-2 at Juventus Stadium. I think thats unreasonable.
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Post by zarola Tue Dec 27, 2011 10:31 pm

Barcelona have the best *bleep* midfield IN THE WORLD.

Marchisio scoring a couple of goals doesnt make him better than iniesta.... by your logic Nocerino is better than iniesta.

was gonna rant about puyols superiority but nope im done his skull is too damn thick, and i really dont get how vidal is better than any barca midfielder
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Post by Luca Tue Dec 27, 2011 10:38 pm

The only way Juventus' midfield even compares to Barcelona's is Pirlo and Xavi, the rest is absolutely no contest.
Theoretically, Juventus' pressing plays right into Barcelona's possession game and Juventus' defense while has been statistically good is still not convincing and has not gone against anywhere near the quality that Barcelona possesses. Also, Buffon > Valdes 🎅

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Post by Camurrìa.Sto.Stronzo Tue Dec 27, 2011 10:49 pm

Marchisio is World Class
Pirlo beats Xavi
Vidal is good enough
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Post by Camurrìa.Sto.Stronzo Tue Dec 27, 2011 10:50 pm

CroInter wrote:Juve fans here, you are a fkn joke, seriously, except few normal ones(Luca, Devi, Italian_fool) the rest of you are just bunch of biased blind *bleep*.

Marchisio is World Class, that's not biased... it's a fact.
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Post by CroInter Tue Dec 27, 2011 10:53 pm

Camurrìa.Sto.Stronzo wrote:
CroInter wrote:Juve fans here, you are a fkn joke, seriously, except few normal ones(Luca, Devi, Italian_fool) the rest of you are just bunch of biased blind *bleep*.

Marchisio is World Class, that's not biased... it's a fact.

Fact? Really? Why? Coz he played few good games in Seria A in last few months?

FFS Nocerino is better player then him atm :facepalm:

Fact :facepalm:

Like i said you are a joke.

But no wait, Marchisio is best box to box striker, right?
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Post by Camurrìa.Sto.Stronzo Tue Dec 27, 2011 10:54 pm

zarola wrote:Juve mid are the only things worthy of comparison to barca.

OK buffon> valdes... but puyol , pique> chiellini barzagli bonucci and the fullbacks are about 20x better on barca.

Busquets is better than Vidal.
Messi,, Matri.....

Maybe juve have better wingers with God himself charging the rw but besides that it's all barca

Zarola your knowledge again never decieves me.

Vidal is not a CM...
Matri is not an SS...

Your comparison's are flawed.

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Post by zarola Tue Dec 27, 2011 10:56 pm

in that case... nocerino is world class! but wait, motta plays ahead of him for the nt so Motta is WC! So Italy have 5 world class midfielders... wow!! facts are fun! italy must have the best national team OF ALL TIME especially with chiellini and barzagli who beat the spain duo!
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