Has C.Ronaldo become a worse all round player at Real Madrid?

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Post by Gil Mon Sep 19, 2011 12:24 pm

He's definitely become a more effective player at Madrid and will probably hit another 50 goals this season BUT is it just me or has he lost his superb close control and dribbling ability since his move to Spain?

I mean even Dani f**king Alves was consistently owning him in every single one on one only just a few weeks ago.


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Post by Swanhends Mon Sep 19, 2011 12:29 pm

He's more one dimensional, for sure

Can't really blame him though, A) He's very good at it and B) He doesn't have much choice....If Madrid doesn't get it from him, where the hell is it going to come from? Higuian? Benzema? Di Maria? Don't make me lulz
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Post by skali Mon Sep 19, 2011 12:31 pm

I would say that defenses in Spain are probably more adept at defending against skilled and fast wingers than their EPL counterparts.

And I don't know about before, but Di Maria for instance is better than Ronaldo in close control and dribbling. Di Maria consistently dribbles against two or three oponents successfully. Of couse he has other issues, but thats offtopic.
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Post by Albiceleste Mon Sep 19, 2011 12:31 pm

bhends wrote:He's more one dimensional, for sure

Can't really blame him though, A) He's very good at it and B) He doesn't have much choice....If Madrid doesn't get it from him, where the hell is it going to come from? Higuian? Benzema? Di Maria? Don't make me lulz
That's why they should have bought Aguero, he could probably bang in 40 goals at madrid easy :coffee:

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Post by jibers Mon Sep 19, 2011 12:32 pm

He's way bigger than when he joined united and is not as agile as he was. His close control is about the same, the difference is the la liga defence. In the prem defenders where always running at him so he used his pace to beat them and it's easier to lose someone that is running towards you as they can't change direction quick enough. In madrid most of the players he's up against are static and defend deep. His dribbling has always been ovverated, when up against players with similar pace or faster such as clichy and cole, he is usually put in their back pocket.
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Post by jibers Mon Sep 19, 2011 12:33 pm

skali wrote:I would say that defenses in Spain are probably more adept at defending against skilled and fast wingers than their EPL counterparts.

And I don't know about before, but Di Maria for instance is better than Ronaldo in close control and dribbling. Di Maria consistently dives against two or three oponents successfully. Of couse he has other issues, but thats offtopic.

fixed :coffee:
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Post by Swanhends Mon Sep 19, 2011 12:33 pm

Aguero isn't a CF though, if they had signed him that would be like trying to fix the hole in your roof by closing the windows
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Post by xabi Mon Sep 19, 2011 12:34 pm

:facepalm:
20th Ronaldo thread of the week?
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Post by jibers Mon Sep 19, 2011 12:35 pm

xabi wrote: :facepalm:
20th Ronaldo thread of the week?

Messi's better, you jelly?
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Post by Albiceleste Mon Sep 19, 2011 12:36 pm

jibers wrote:
xabi wrote: :facepalm:
20th Ronaldo thread of the week?

Messi's better, you jelly?
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Post by Mr Nick09 Mon Sep 19, 2011 12:39 pm

Imo, it's a matter of him getting older, and losing agility and flexibility. His body is changing, and he is adding power and muscles.

I dont recall that amazig close control you describe, he has always been about power, speed and agility most of the time.

Also, teams in spain defend better as a group than they do in England Very Happy, you cant just have your way with teams there Laughing
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Post by xabi Mon Sep 19, 2011 12:40 pm

jibers wrote:
xabi wrote: :facepalm:
20th Ronaldo thread of the week?

Messi's better, you jelly?

sore loser :facepalm: How many times do I have to beat you in fifa before you stop stalking me Laughing

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Post by jibers Mon Sep 19, 2011 12:42 pm

xabi wrote:
jibers wrote:
xabi wrote: :facepalm:
20th Ronaldo thread of the week?

Messi's better, you jelly?

sore loser :facepalm: How many times do I have to beat you in fifa before you stop stalking me Laughing


The man who hates Barca but ironically uses them in fifa 11. You really are a trolls troll.
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Post by EarlyPrototype Mon Sep 19, 2011 12:44 pm

he has never scored a screamer outside the box for us in open play. Not including freekicks. Then again he never did score many for United either. In La Liga he is closed down with at least 2 defenders where as in EPL defenders used to just dive in. He is definitely becoming less effective when he is outside the box and when he is not on the counter attack.
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Post by Adit Mon Sep 19, 2011 12:48 pm

since he left united and joined madrid he lost his first touch and close control :facepalm:

Its down to tactics,we are very direct counter team.He will get beaten to death by mou if he waste time on ball.
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Post by Giovanni10 Mon Sep 19, 2011 12:50 pm

OT: Lionel Messi, your sig is ridiculous.

You can clearly see Ronaldo is not sprinting full tilt there. His fatigue is obviously showing from the mid-week. This whole Ballesteros thing is such a troll. You people can't be serious.
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Post by Doc Mon Sep 19, 2011 12:53 pm

Really don't know why Gil was negged for that but I really don't think he cares much.

I never really thought Ronaldo was that effective at Man Utd in the 1st place far less for him now. Also, trying to beat Alves with speed is not gonna work too well, he is already pretty fast himself. Usually trickery, one - two's and the good old "caught out of position" through ball does him in but hardly ever seen Alves get beat for pure pace really...
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Post by Albiceleste Mon Sep 19, 2011 12:56 pm

Giovanni10 wrote:OT: Lionel Messi, your sig is ridiculous.

You can clearly see Ronaldo is not sprinting full tilt there. His fatigue is obviously showing from the mid-week. This whole Ballesteros thing is such a troll. You people can't be serious.
Has C.Ronaldo become a worse all round player at Real Madrid? Diapo20b33f527f2bba07c4a57066ea0c9308

Just kidding man, it's just a joke, lighten up Laughing

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Post by the xcx Mon Sep 19, 2011 12:56 pm

Lionel Messi wrote:
Giovanni10 wrote:OT: Lionel Messi, your sig is ridiculous.

You can clearly see Ronaldo is not sprinting full tilt there. His fatigue is obviously showing from the mid-week. This whole Ballesteros thing is such a troll. You people can't be serious.
Has C.Ronaldo become a worse all round player at Real Madrid? Diapo20b33f527f2bba07c4a57066ea0c9308

Just kidding man, it's just a joke, lighten up Laughing
wtf is he saying?
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Post by Albiceleste Mon Sep 19, 2011 12:58 pm

With 2 cojones.

Anyway, back on topic :coffee:

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Post by Sushi Master Mon Sep 19, 2011 1:02 pm

I also feel the same. He doesn't dribble as well and his long range kicks and free kicks are total shit. Sure, he's more of a goal threat but team wise he'd be better as he was before, IMO. Extremely wasteful sometimes.

As long as he's always that selfish he's never be better than Messi :coffee:
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Post by Giovanni10 Mon Sep 19, 2011 1:05 pm

Lionel Messi wrote:
Giovanni10 wrote:OT: Lionel Messi, your sig is ridiculous.

You can clearly see Ronaldo is not sprinting full tilt there. His fatigue is obviously showing from the mid-week. This whole Ballesteros thing is such a troll. You people can't be serious.
Has C.Ronaldo become a worse all round player at Real Madrid? Diapo20b33f527f2bba07c4a57066ea0c9308

Just kidding man, it's just a joke, lighten up Laughing

:lol!: I know, I'm known in the Real Madrid section as a member of the "anti-Ronaldo movement" I don't even know why I'm jumping to his defense. Suppose its a reflex reaction to protect the players of my team.
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Post by che Mon Sep 19, 2011 1:05 pm

he was never exactly a stellar dribbler in the first place... imho he hasn't changed that much, he scores more goals because he's 100% central to his team's attack which he wasn't at man utd...
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Post by EarlyPrototype Mon Sep 19, 2011 1:06 pm

Sure he aint no Messi when it comes to passing, but he aint selfish as people make him out to be.

Plus he scored more freekicks than anyone else in top flight football last season.

At United the team was built around him too.
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Post by Swanhends Mon Sep 19, 2011 1:08 pm

Sushi Master wrote:I also feel the same. He doesn't dribble as well and his long range kicks and free kicks are total shit. Sure, he's more of a goal threat but team wise he'd be better as he was before, IMO. Extremely wasteful sometimes.

As long as he's always that selfish he's never be better than Messi :coffee:

In CR's defense, Madrid is far more reliant on him for goals than Barca is on Messi...he doesn't have much choice
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