Re: Barca and their CBs...

by McLewis Wed Sep 14, 2011 12:26 pm

Immaculate_Mole wrote:Thing is Barca dont need a talent like Hummels......

They need an experienced, proven CB with ball playing abilities that can play when Pique is'nt there....

I have no problem with Mascherano aslong as Pique is there beside him, but as Pique is'nt there atm the lack of a ball playing CB is obvious....

Hummels can be that defender though. I'm sure you've seen some of the long balls he's played out of the back for Dortmund. Beautiful stuff.

by Great Leader Sprucenuce Wed Sep 14, 2011 12:46 pm

McLewis wrote:
Immaculate_Mole wrote:Thing is Barca dont need a talent like Hummels......

They need an experienced, proven CB with ball playing abilities that can play when Pique is'nt there....

I have no problem with Mascherano aslong as Pique is there beside him, but as Pique is'nt there atm the lack of a ball playing CB is obvious....

Hummels can be that defender though. I'm sure you've seen some of the long balls he's played out of the back for Dortmund. Beautiful stuff.

Will Hummel's sit on the bench to pick up a bigger pay cheque?

I doubt it and when Puyol goes he wont be starting either because Hummels and Pique is'nt working no way.....

I said experienced and proven for a reason someone in his late 20s and Puyol's replacement should be someone in the Sakho mould and not a footballing CB.....

2 slow CB's in a high backline is suicide.

by Highburied Wed Sep 14, 2011 1:22 pm

Barca dont need to spend huge money on defenders. They can easily promote someone from their youth who:

1. Has been raised to play that game.

2. Has quick feet.

by Great Leader Sprucenuce Wed Sep 14, 2011 1:24 pm

highburied wrote:Barca dont need to spend huge money on defenders. They can easily promote someone from their youth who:

1. Has been raised to play that game.

2. Has quick feet.

The youth while talented, are not ready yet which is why i would have bought an experienced ball playing defender to play when Pique is not fit...

by halamadrid2 Wed Sep 14, 2011 1:30 pm

i think barca shouldve snapped up garay when he was for sale

by Great Leader Sprucenuce Wed Sep 14, 2011 1:31 pm

halamadrid2 wrote:i think barca shouldve snapped up garay when he was for sale

And i think you should have snapped up Caceres Very Happy

remember that? Laughing

by halamadrid2 Wed Sep 14, 2011 1:36 pm

nah i mean we have never been in dire need of a cb thats why....

and whats wrong with garay he was definately better than albitrolol and ricky on the the few occassions he wasnt on the medical table

by Great Leader Sprucenuce Wed Sep 14, 2011 1:38 pm

halamadrid2 wrote:nah i mean we have never been in dire need of a cb thats why....

and whats wrong with garay he was definately better than albitrolol and ricky on the the few occassions he wasnt on the medical table

Oh, i thought you was on about when it looked like Garay was certain to join Barca and he joined Madrid and Caceres look certain to join Madrid and joined Barca lolz

Good times......

I agree with you anyway.

by halamadrid2 Wed Sep 14, 2011 1:39 pm

garay would have been perfect partner with pique

not fast, but very much aware of everything a pity that he always used to get injured though

by The Franchise Wed Sep 14, 2011 2:58 pm

cyberman wrote:Because Cahill is English makes Cahill a no lose buy.
Look at Owen, barely played at Madrid but due to his age and EPL experience, an EPL club broke the bank to sign him. No way would Madrid expect that fee when selling a 3rd choice striker in an open market.
Sign Cahill for peanuts in Jan and a profit is guaranteed when Spurs etc come knocking.
Thats if he doesnt work out

Yeah, but what I mean is I dont think Pep or anyone at Barca are even considering someone like him.

I dont disagree, but I equally dont see it happening.

by The Franchise Wed Sep 14, 2011 3:05 pm

Khaledbarca wrote:Botia ? If we guardiola wants to buy a CB, i think he is the best option..
- he is gd on the ball, gd physically.. performed well with spain u21 in the summer & got a call for NT
- Cheap, i read somewhere that we still has a buyback option, will cost us less than 5M (not sure)
- he came from our academy ( La Masia)
- played 2 years in La Liga with Gijon ( have some experience)
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one of the reasons i don't want a CB: Chyg (25M), Caceres (16M), Henrique (14M) all flopped @ Barca.. i don't want us to spend big again on another Cb who could flop again.. anyone has a specific/realistic name? (note: T.Silva or Sakho are very expensive & their clubs won't sell)

Botia isnt good enough.

I understand why you dont want to spend big money, but who's fault is it they chose the wrong targets? None of those players did anything to suggest they have the ability to play for us and none of them have the correct skillset in the first place.

There is nothing wrong with buying and paynig good money if you actually think hard about what you need.

Man Utd took Smalling and Jones quickly and paid what was needed, because they knew they had the talent and the right profile to fit the club.

by The Franchise Wed Sep 14, 2011 3:06 pm

highburied wrote:Barca dont need to spend huge money on defenders. They can easily promote someone from their youth who:

1. Has been raised to play that game.

2. Has quick feet.

We dont have anyone ready. Fontas is the most ready and Pep dont trust him. Cna have all the talent in the world but if Pep dont believe in him it dont matter.

Another reason why I like buying, because you paid money you have to at least try him.

Then again, Caceres barely got chances after making a couple errors.

by The Franchise Wed Sep 14, 2011 3:06 pm

halamadrid2 wrote:garay would have been perfect partner with pique

not fast, but very much aware of everything a pity that he always used to get injured though

We tried, but we didnt want to pay and you did. Then we went and spent more on Caceres because we had no more targets......annoying.

by Zealous Wed Sep 14, 2011 6:07 pm

Garay would have had a lot more minutes in Madrid if it wasn't for his injury record. A shame really : /

by Zealous Wed Sep 14, 2011 6:08 pm

Also I would be extremely pissed if Barca got Hummels.

What a talent :bow:

by SuperMAG Wed Sep 14, 2011 7:09 pm

Immaculate_Mole wrote:
McLewis wrote:
Immaculate_Mole wrote:Thing is Barca dont need a talent like Hummels......

They need an experienced, proven CB with ball playing abilities that can play when Pique is'nt there....

I have no problem with Mascherano aslong as Pique is there beside him, but as Pique is'nt there atm the lack of a ball playing CB is obvious....

Hummels can be that defender though. I'm sure you've seen some of the long balls he's played out of the back for Dortmund. Beautiful stuff.

Will Hummel's sit on the bench to pick up a bigger pay cheque?

I doubt it and when Puyol goes he wont be starting either because Hummels and Pique is'nt working no way.....

I said experienced and proven for a reason someone in his late 20s and Puyol's replacement should be someone in the Sakho mould and not a footballing CB.....

2 slow CB's in a high backline is suicide.

lol why do u think i am suggesting him hahaha Evil or Very Mad

by Great Leader Sprucenuce Wed Sep 14, 2011 7:25 pm

Zealous wrote:Also I would be extremely pissed if Barca got Hummels.

What a talent

He would flop hard at Barca anyway.......

Pique-Hummels on the half way line with Ronaldo running behind.....

I can see it now :facepalm:

by Zealous Wed Sep 14, 2011 7:26 pm

Sorry bro Hummels's positioning is world class. He'd never have that problem.

by Great Leader Sprucenuce Wed Sep 14, 2011 7:29 pm

Zealous wrote:Sorry bro Hummels's positioning is world class. He'd never have that problem.

That is true, but it only takes one foray down the pitch to be intercepted and it would be fatal.....

As i said 2 CB's of that type in a high line is suicide, with Pique there Barca need a Sakho type not a Hummels type imo.