Frustrated Messi...

diptiman wrote:

alexjanosik wrote:

rwo power wrote:

billionmillion wrote:Yeah you say Messi is not a top playmaker but i'm sure most of you would replace your current playmaker with Messi

Not necessarily. At least the playmaker(s) of the German NT can be considered proven at the highest level and they work pretty well there, while Messi has yet to prove his worth in another set-up but Barcelona.

Please not the system BS again.
By the same token I can equally well say that Oezil is not proven outside the German system.

ozil succeeded for werder bremen, german nt , real madrid(the hardest place to succeed imo).. all three were different systems..just saying

hmm let me see.
Different systems you say.
Khedira plays B2B for both Germany and Stoke.
Scweini plays a DLP for Germany,the guy who moves horizontally across the pitch.
Alonso plays the role for Stoke.
Mueller plays a hardworking winger on the right.Di Maria for Stoke.
Oezil as the number 10 or AM for both teams.A lone striker up top.
Oh yeah completely different system!!!!!!!!!!!!!
If you cpome up with BS be prepared to back it up.Else you end up looking foolish.

Lets see Oezil try to play CM or lets see Oezil try and play as a CF.Move him out of his natural position into a syustem with no structure,no defense and then see how he performs.

Till then just cut it with the BS.

The xcx wrote:

jiopsi wrote:

The xcx wrote:

jiopsi wrote:

The xcx wrote:

jiopsi wrote:

diptiman wrote:

alexjanosik wrote:

rwo power wrote:

billionmillion wrote:Yeah you say Messi is not a top playmaker but i'm sure most of you would replace your current playmaker with Messi

Not necessarily. At least the playmaker(s) of the German NT can be considered proven at the highest level and they work pretty well there, while Messi has yet to prove his worth in another set-up but Barcelona.

Please not the system BS again.
By the same token I can equally well say that Oezil is not proven outside the German system.

ozil succeeded for werder bremen, german nt , real madrid(the hardest place to succeed imo).. all three were different systems..just saying

Double standards here are killing humankind.

Ozil on club level 3 titles
Messi on club level 17 titles

Ozil on NT 1 title Euro U21
Messi on NT 2 titles WC U20, Olympic Gold

Smh...Instead of comparison of performances for example, you come up with trophies..rofl

Well that's what you are doing here, right? Messi doesn't score or win tournament, means his not proven as playmaker?

hurrrrrr durrrrrrr.....I meant Invidual performance, idc about titles

WC 2010

Ozil 3 assists, team rank 3.
Messi 4 assists, team rank 5.

Copa America 2011

Messi 3 assists, most chances created per 90min.

Huurrrduuuur.

If your going to start with numbers, Id suggest you check your sources.. and Copa America 2011, wtf is that?!

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Copa America? Are you for real?

Oh look, another Barca-Madrid bitch-fest.