Frustrated Messi...

"I score in every way at Barcelona, even without wanting to," Messi is quoted as saying in La Repubblica.

"With Argentina I try to score goals but I am unable to find the net. Maybe it is because I am not tranquil."

Tranquil?He is one dimensional, plain and simple. He can't do playmaking and doesn't have enough service for a striker=fail

Source:http://www.goal.com/en/news/12/spain/2011/09/04/2649992/barcelonas-lionel-messi-left-frustrated-by-poor-goalscoring

tbh even when he does have the srvice of a striker (higuain when in form) he didnt score much at all... he plays more as a AM in argentina

Service of a striker? lol I'm sure you must mean midfield, anyway. The midfield is the problem for Argentina, Messi is the only person that has tried to move the ball into the final third, he plays so deep which is why he doesn't score as much.

When Messi creates 15 goal scoring chances and only 3 are scored, you know there's a problem with the finishing of his team mates as well.

Lionel Messi wrote:Service of a striker? lol I'm sure you must mean midfield, anyway. The midfield is the problem for Argentina, Messi is the only person that has tried to move the ball into the final third, he plays so deep which is why he doesn't score as much.

You just said what I did in a different way. He doesn't get enough service when he plays striker so he has to drop deep but then he isn't creative enough like a playmaker to organize the attack
I'd say, Argentine needs a full fledged Pastore a lot more than Messi

Lionel Messi wrote:When Messi creates 15 goal scoring chances and only 3 are scored, you know there's a problem with the finishing of his team mates as well.

Creating goal scoring chances is another of the funny stats. How many of the were from acute angles under pressure? Sure not 15 one on ones

babun1024 wrote:

"I score in every way at Barcelona, even without wanting to," Messi is quoted as saying in La Repubblica.

"With Argentina I try to score goals but I am unable to find the net. Maybe it is because I am not tranquil."

Tranquil?He is one dimensional, plain and simple. He can't do playmaking and doesn't have enough service for a striker=fail

Source:http://www.goal.com/en/news/12/spain/2011/09/04/2649992/barcelonas-lionel-messi-left-frustrated-by-poor-goalscoring

You do know that messi was the player who created the most goal scoring opportunities per 90 min at the copa america, right?

Where has the world come to, CRonaldo less humble and respectful than his fans:

http://www.sport.es/es/noticias/barca/20110903/cristiano-messi-mejor-del-mundo/1139343.shtml?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=facebook&utm_campaign=sport.es

"Messi is the world's best"

Real Madrid striker admitted the supremacy of the Barca star in a media interview after the appointment UEFA

babun1024 wrote:

Lionel Messi wrote:When Messi creates 15 goal scoring chances and only 3 are scored, you know there's a problem with the finishing of his team mates as well.

Creating goal scoring chances is another of the funny stats. How many of the were from acute angles under pressure? Sure not 15 one on ones

This is pretty much a sitter for top class player..



And there are countless of chances on this video.

For example 4:36 5:26 6:07 6:48 7:16 ...

El Pipita wrote:keep on trolling dude, no one said Messi isn't better than Ronaldo.

Trolling? Who said that some said that Messi isn't better than Ronaldo? I just find his fans more humble and respectful nowadays.

jiopsi wrote:Where has the world come to, CRonaldo less humble and respectful than his fans:

http://www.sport.es/es/noticias/barca/20110903/cristiano-messi-mejor-del-mundo/1139343.shtml?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=facebook&utm_campaign=sport.es

"Messi is the world's best"

Real Madrid striker admitted the supremacy of the Barca star in a media interview after the appointment UEFA

Where did i mention CR7 or that Messi isn't the best player in the world?

babun1024 wrote:

Lionel Messi wrote:Service of a striker? lol I'm sure you must mean midfield, anyway. The midfield is the problem for Argentina, Messi is the only person that has tried to move the ball into the final third, he plays so deep which is why he doesn't score as much.

You just said what I did in a different way. He doesn't get enough service when he plays striker so he has to drop deep but then he isn't creative enough like a playmaker to organize the attack
I'd say, Argentine needs a full fledged Pastore a lot more than Messi

What they need is Banega, a player that can dictate tempo and pull the strings in the midfield, Pastore as well needs to play. imo this would be the best lineup

babun1024 wrote:Where did i mention CR7 or that Messi isn't the best player in the world?

I don't think you said that? Where did I say that you said that?

jiopsi wrote:

babun1024 wrote:Where did i mention CR7 or that Messi isn't the best player in the world?

I don't think you said that? Where did I say that you said that?

I'm talking about Messi for Argentine and you bring up who is the best player in the world with quotes. Can't you read properly? Should I spend money so you could buy glasses? Ask people on the board, they're pretty generous like me :lol!:

Lionel Messi wrote:

babun1024 wrote:

Lionel Messi wrote:Service of a striker? lol I'm sure you must mean midfield, anyway. The midfield is the problem for Argentina, Messi is the only person that has tried to move the ball into the final third, he plays so deep which is why he doesn't score as much.

You just said what I did in a different way. He doesn't get enough service when he plays striker so he has to drop deep but then he isn't creative enough like a playmaker to organize the attack
I'd say, Argentine needs a full fledged Pastore a lot more than Messi

What they need is Banega, a player that can dictate tempo and pull the strings in the midfield, Pastore as well needs to play. imo this would be the best lineup

Romero
Zabaleta Otamendi Mascherano Ansaldi
Gago
Banega Pastore
Di Maria Messi Aguero

There is no midfield protection,Gago is no DM and no you can't leave him alone Has Cambiasso declined totally?

-----------------Romero

Zabaleta Otamendi Mascherano Ansaldi

---------Cambiasso ----Banega--------

------------------Pastore

Di Maria--------- Messi------------- Aguero

Banega isn't a DM, Gago is a DM though he's decent defensively, but Cambiasso could play as lone DM as well, I'd prefer Gago because of his passing ability though.

Babun got a point though, Messi is probably the world's best player, but certainly not the world's best playmaker.
And Argentina need one of those, or they need to play a different system, maybe more wing-heavy, they'd need proper fullbacks then, though.

All in all it doesn't take a genius to figure out why Messi scores less for Argentina and I think Babun about put it right, don't see how that warrants huge amounts of -rep, it's not like he called Messi a shit player, he's just not suited for the role he has in the Argentinian NT.

Lionel Messi wrote:Banega isn't a DM, Gago is a DM though he's decent defensively, but Cambiasso could play as lone DM as well, I'd prefer Gago because of his passing ability though.

Banega isn't playing DM in my version, he is the more advanced one who distributes the ball. Cambiasso is your DM with box to box ability

babun1024 wrote:

jiopsi wrote:

babun1024 wrote:Where did i mention CR7 or that Messi isn't the best player in the world?

I don't think you said that? Where did I say that you said that?

I'm talking about Messi for Argentine and you bring up who is the best player in the world with quotes. Can't you read properly? Should I spend money so you could buy glasses? Ask people on board, they're pretty generous like me :lol!:

Holy shit dude, please do us all a service and travel to a country where there are schools and libraries, and then learn to read porperly. I only tried to convey how CRonaldo is less humble and respectful nowadays, based on this thread and that quote.

babun1024 wrote:

Lionel Messi wrote:Banega isn't a DM, Gago is a DM though he's decent defensively, but Cambiasso could play as lone DM as well, I'd prefer Gago because of his passing ability though.

Banega isn't playing DM in my version, he is the more advanced one who distributes the ball. Cambiasso is your DM with box to box ability

Either way I think we agree that Lucho and Alvarez don't work with a destroyer behind them, they looked lackadaisical and/or lost vs Venezuela

VivaStPauli wrote:Babun got a point though, Messi is probably the world's best player, but certainly not the world's best playmaker.

Yet most chanches created per 90min in Copa America, by a quite big margin.

jiopsi wrote:

babun1024 wrote:

jiopsi wrote:

babun1024 wrote:Where did i mention CR7 or that Messi isn't the best player in the world?

I don't think you said that? Where did I say that you said that?

I'm talking about Messi for Argentine and you bring up who is the best player in the world with quotes. Can't you read properly? Should I spend money so you could buy glasses? Ask people on board, they're pretty generous like me :lol!:

Holy shit dude, please do us all a service and travel to a country where there are schools and libraries, and then learn to read porperly. I only tried to convey how CRonaldo is less humble and respectful nowadays, based on this thread and that quote.

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I could list 1000 other things which are true but don't have anything to do with OP
P.S. I don't need a coffee guy to sound smart :lol!:

babun1024 wrote:P.S. I don't need a coffee guy to sound smarter :lol!:

No, you need LOL guy to sound happier.

babun1024 wrote:
P.S. I don't need a coffee guy to sound smart :lol!:

I certainly do