Re: Frustrated Messi...

by Zealous Sun Sep 04, 2011 7:58 am

Stones, Glass houses etc. ^^^^^^^^

by Babun Sun Sep 04, 2011 7:58 am

rwo power wrote:
babun1024 wrote:Pastore has got better attackers to feed so it evens out everything in the end Messi+Aguero>> Muller+Klose
Well, atm not in NT effectivity.

And play-wise I wouldn't really want to rank them, especially if you see how the end results look like. If you look at the chances Müller creates in the German NT, he is pretty cool there, too. And Gomez certainly is prone not to use the passes he gets from Müller, or the boy would have racked up even more assists.

I'm more inclined towards ratio than feelings so my biasness level is very low unless semi-trolling Very Happy

Believe me, a piggy and Ozil make worlds of difference for Germany Very Happy

If you could magically transfer them into Argentinian NT they'd bang 6 goals each game just for fun Very Happy

by Albiceleste Sun Sep 04, 2011 8:00 am

babun1024 wrote:
rwo power wrote:
babun1024 wrote:Pastore has got better attackers to feed so it evens out everything in the end Messi+Aguero>> Muller+Klose
Well, atm not in NT effectivity.

And play-wise I wouldn't really want to rank them, especially if you see how the end results look like. If you look at the chances Müller creates in the German NT, he is pretty cool there, too. And Gomez certainly is prone not to use the passes he gets from Müller, or the boy would have racked up even more assists.
I'm more inclined towards ratio than feelings so my biaseness level is very low unless semi-trolling Believe me, a piggy and Ozil make worlds of difference for Germany If you could magically transfer them into Argentinian NT they'd bang 6 goals each game just for fun

If Argentina had Ozil and Schwein, they would win the WC no problem, lol. Imagine in 2014

Andrada
Pillud Pezzella Otamendi Ansaldi
Mascherano Schwein
Lamela Ozil Aguero
Messi

A man can dream...

by Babun Sun Sep 04, 2011 8:16 am

Lionel Messi wrote:
babun1024 wrote:
rwo power wrote:
babun1024 wrote:Pastore has got better attackers to feed so it evens out everything in the end Messi+Aguero>> Muller+Klose
Well, atm not in NT effectivity.

And play-wise I wouldn't really want to rank them, especially if you see how the end results look like. If you look at the chances Müller creates in the German NT, he is pretty cool there, too. And Gomez certainly is prone not to use the passes he gets from Müller, or the boy would have racked up even more assists.
I'm more inclined towards ratio than feelings so my biaseness level is very low unless semi-trolling Believe me, a piggy and Ozil make worlds of difference for Germany If you could magically transfer them into Argentinian NT they'd bang 6 goals each game just for fun
If Argentina had Ozil and Schwein, they would win the WC no problem, lol. Imagine in 2014
Andrada
Pillud Pezzella Otamendi Ansaldi
Mascherano Schwein
Lamela Ozil Aguero
Messi

A man can dream...

Dream on

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by ÖMARz Sun Sep 04, 2011 8:18 am

babun1024 wrote:
Lionel Messi wrote:
babun1024 wrote:
rwo power wrote:
babun1024 wrote:Pastore has got better attackers to feed so it evens out everything in the end Messi+Aguero>> Muller+Klose
Well, atm not in NT effectivity.

And play-wise I wouldn't really want to rank them, especially if you see how the end results look like. If you look at the chances Müller creates in the German NT, he is pretty cool there, too. And Gomez certainly is prone not to use the passes he gets from Müller, or the boy would have racked up even more assists.
I'm more inclined towards ratio than feelings so my biaseness level is very low unless semi-trolling Believe me, a piggy and Ozil make worlds of difference for Germany If you could magically transfer them into Argentinian NT they'd bang 6 goals each game just for fun
If Argentina had Ozil and Schwein, they would win the WC no problem, lol. Imagine in 2014
Andrada
Pillud Pezzella Otamendi Ansaldi
Mascherano Schwein
Lamela Ozil Aguero
Messi

A man can dream...
Dream on

babun, your sig makes a certain part of my body grow at a faster speed than the rest of it.

by Babun Sun Sep 04, 2011 8:23 am

ÖMARz wrote:
babun1024 wrote:
Lionel Messi wrote:
babun1024 wrote:
rwo power wrote:
babun1024 wrote:Pastore has got better attackers to feed so it evens out everything in the end Messi+Aguero>> Muller+Klose
Well, atm not in NT effectivity.

And play-wise I wouldn't really want to rank them, especially if you see how the end results look like. If you look at the chances Müller creates in the German NT, he is pretty cool there, too. And Gomez certainly is prone not to use the passes he gets from Müller, or the boy would have racked up even more assists.
I'm more inclined towards ratio than feelings so my biaseness level is very low unless semi-trolling Believe me, a piggy and Ozil make worlds of difference for Germany If you could magically transfer them into Argentinian NT they'd bang 6 goals each game just for fun
If Argentina had Ozil and Schwein, they would win the WC no problem, lol. Imagine in 2014
Andrada
Pillud Pezzella Otamendi Ansaldi
Mascherano Schwein
Lamela Ozil Aguero
Messi

A man can dream...
Dream on

babun, your sig makes a certain part of my body grow at a faster speed than the rest of it.

Good sig choice then, I always go for more effects than border line nudity :lol!:

by Zealous Sun Sep 04, 2011 8:29 am

It doesn't help that I usually read through the forum without any pants on.

by Babun Sun Sep 04, 2011 8:31 am

Zealous wrote:It doesn't help that I usually read through the forum without any pants on.

Anti-gravity sigs FTW! :lol!:

by VivaStPauli Sun Sep 04, 2011 8:36 am

Zealous wrote:It doesn't help that I usually read through the forum without any pants on.

I feel you, man. Pants only get in the way.

by Zealous Sun Sep 04, 2011 8:58 am

VivaStPauli wrote:
Zealous wrote:It doesn't help that I usually read through the forum without any pants on.

I feel you, man. Pants only get in the way.

There's a "that's what she said" joke in there somewhere.

by billionmillion Sun Sep 04, 2011 9:50 am

Dictating midfield is another thing and playmaking is another thing. Messi is a playmeker not a dictator. Now lets say Argentina have Xaviesta (Messi), in this case they dont have a messi in attack. If Argentina had 2 messi's then it would be complete attack (one messi for midfield another one for attack, same like barcelona).

If you take messi out and put any midfielder instead of him, argentina would suck more

by Albiceleste Sun Sep 04, 2011 9:51 am

xabi wrote:I agree Messi has shite service from the midfield. His team mates cannot feed him the ball properly. I mean Pastore, Banega, Lavezzi, Mascherano are shite midfielders. With Paraguays midfield Messi would score even more.

lmao he has the best midfield in south america. Messi needs to get his ass on the bench because he cant do shite at Argentina. Learn from cr7 just banged in 2 goals for portugal this weekend. Lionel 17 games 0 goals now? Not a flop indeed

Didn't Ronaldo go 16 months without scoring for the NT in neither friendlies or official games? :facepalm:

Btw, you have that stat wrong anyway.

by Babun Sun Sep 04, 2011 9:54 am

billionmillion wrote:Dictating midfield is another thing and playmaking is another thing. Messi is a playmeker not a dictator. Now lets say Argentina have Xaviesta (Messi), in this case they dont have a messi in attack. If Argentina had 2 messi's then it would be complete attack (one messi for midfield another one for attack, same like barcelona).

If you take messi out and put any midfielder instead of him, argentina would suck more

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by billionmillion Sun Sep 04, 2011 9:59 am

Yeah you say Messi is not a top playmaker but i'm sure most of you would replace your current playmaker with Messi

by rwo power Sun Sep 04, 2011 11:21 am

billionmillion wrote:Yeah you say Messi is not a top playmaker but i'm sure most of you would replace your current playmaker with Messi

Not necessarily. At least the playmaker(s) of the German NT can be considered proven at the highest level and they work pretty well there, while Messi has yet to prove his worth in another set-up but Barcelona.

by alexjanosik Sun Sep 04, 2011 11:23 am

rwo power wrote:
billionmillion wrote:Yeah you say Messi is not a top playmaker but i'm sure most of you would replace your current playmaker with Messi
Not necessarily. At least the playmaker(s) of the German NT can be considered proven at the highest level and they work pretty well there, while Messi has yet to prove his worth in another set-up but Barcelona.

Please not the system BS again.
By the same token I can equally well say that Oezil is not proven outside the German system.

by alexjanosik Sun Sep 04, 2011 11:27 am

You cant expect a player to create and then get on the end of the ball to tap it in.
Cant expect the guy to do both.Either he plays upfield and the midfield gets him the ball in forward areas which the Argenitine midfield is unable to,or he plays deeper and playmakes(which he is doing just fine),but haters stop expecting him to get on the end of his own balls.

by Lord Hades Sun Sep 04, 2011 11:31 am

alexjanosik wrote:
rwo power wrote:
billionmillion wrote:Yeah you say Messi is not a top playmaker but i'm sure most of you would replace your current playmaker with Messi
Not necessarily. At least the playmaker(s) of the German NT can be considered proven at the highest level and they work pretty well there, while Messi has yet to prove his worth in another set-up but Barcelona.

Please not the system BS again.
By the same token I can equally well say that Oezil is not proven outside the German system.

ozil succeeded for werder bremen, german nt , real madrid(the hardest place to succeed imo).. all three were different systems..just saying

by the xcx Sun Sep 04, 2011 11:33 am

diptiman wrote:
alexjanosik wrote:
rwo power wrote:
billionmillion wrote:Yeah you say Messi is not a top playmaker but i'm sure most of you would replace your current playmaker with Messi
Not necessarily. At least the playmaker(s) of the German NT can be considered proven at the highest level and they work pretty well there, while Messi has yet to prove his worth in another set-up but Barcelona.

Please not the system BS again.
By the same token I can equally well say that Oezil is not proven outside the German system.

ozil succeeded for werder bremen, german nt , real madrid(the hardest place to succeed imo).. all three were different systems..just saying

Infact most of the madridistas have proven themselves worldwide.

by Harmonica Sun Sep 04, 2011 11:35 am

diptiman wrote:
alexjanosik wrote:
rwo power wrote:
billionmillion wrote:Yeah you say Messi is not a top playmaker but i'm sure most of you would replace your current playmaker with Messi
Not necessarily. At least the playmaker(s) of the German NT can be considered proven at the highest level and they work pretty well there, while Messi has yet to prove his worth in another set-up but Barcelona.

Please not the system BS again.
By the same token I can equally well say that Oezil is not proven outside the German system.

ozil succeeded for werder bremen, german nt , real madrid(the hardest place to succeed imo).. all three were different systems..just saying

Double standards here are killing humankind.

Ozil on club level 3 titles
Messi on club level 17 titles

Ozil on NT 1 title Euro U21
Messi on NT 2 titles WC U20, Olympic Gold

by the xcx Sun Sep 04, 2011 11:37 am

jiopsi wrote:
diptiman wrote:
alexjanosik wrote:
rwo power wrote:
billionmillion wrote:Yeah you say Messi is not a top playmaker but i'm sure most of you would replace your current playmaker with Messi
Not necessarily. At least the playmaker(s) of the German NT can be considered proven at the highest level and they work pretty well there, while Messi has yet to prove his worth in another set-up but Barcelona.

Please not the system BS again.
By the same token I can equally well say that Oezil is not proven outside the German system.

ozil succeeded for werder bremen, german nt , real madrid(the hardest place to succeed imo).. all three were different systems..just saying
Double standards here are killing humankind.

Ozil on club level 3 titles
Messi on club level 17 titles

Ozil on NT 1 title Euro U21
Messi on NT 2 titles WC U20, Olympic Gold

Smh...Instead of comparison of performances for example, you come up with trophies..rofl

by Harmonica Sun Sep 04, 2011 11:38 am

The xcx wrote:
jiopsi wrote:
diptiman wrote:
alexjanosik wrote:
rwo power wrote:
billionmillion wrote:Yeah you say Messi is not a top playmaker but i'm sure most of you would replace your current playmaker with Messi
Not necessarily. At least the playmaker(s) of the German NT can be considered proven at the highest level and they work pretty well there, while Messi has yet to prove his worth in another set-up but Barcelona.

Please not the system BS again.
By the same token I can equally well say that Oezil is not proven outside the German system.

ozil succeeded for werder bremen, german nt , real madrid(the hardest place to succeed imo).. all three were different systems..just saying
Double standards here are killing humankind.

Ozil on club level 3 titles
Messi on club level 17 titles

Ozil on NT 1 title Euro U21
Messi on NT 2 titles WC U20, Olympic Gold
Smh...Instead of comparison of performances for example, you come up with trophies..rofl

Well that's what you are doing here, right? Messi doesn't score or win tournament, means his not proven as playmaker? Laughing

by the xcx Sun Sep 04, 2011 11:44 am

jiopsi wrote:
The xcx wrote:
jiopsi wrote:
diptiman wrote:
alexjanosik wrote:
rwo power wrote:
billionmillion wrote:Yeah you say Messi is not a top playmaker but i'm sure most of you would replace your current playmaker with Messi
Not necessarily. At least the playmaker(s) of the German NT can be considered proven at the highest level and they work pretty well there, while Messi has yet to prove his worth in another set-up but Barcelona.

Please not the system BS again.
By the same token I can equally well say that Oezil is not proven outside the German system.

ozil succeeded for werder bremen, german nt , real madrid(the hardest place to succeed imo).. all three were different systems..just saying
Double standards here are killing humankind.

Ozil on club level 3 titles
Messi on club level 17 titles

Ozil on NT 1 title Euro U21
Messi on NT 2 titles WC U20, Olympic Gold
Smh...Instead of comparison of performances for example, you come up with trophies..rofl
Well that's what you are doing here, right? Messi doesn't score or win tournament, means his not proven as playmaker?

hurrrrrr durrrrrrr.....I meant Invidual performance, idc about titles Frustrated Messi... - Page 3 1625187496

by Pedram Sun Sep 04, 2011 11:45 am

jiopsi wrote:
diptiman wrote:
alexjanosik wrote:
rwo power wrote:
billionmillion wrote:Yeah you say Messi is not a top playmaker but i'm sure most of you would replace your current playmaker with Messi
Not necessarily. At least the playmaker(s) of the German NT can be considered proven at the highest level and they work pretty well there, while Messi has yet to prove his worth in another set-up but Barcelona.

Please not the system BS again.
By the same token I can equally well say that Oezil is not proven outside the German system.

ozil succeeded for werder bremen, german nt , real madrid(the hardest place to succeed imo).. all three were different systems..just saying
Double standards here are killing humankind.

Ozil on club level 3 titles
Messi on club level 17 titles

Ozil on NT 1 title Euro U21
Messi on NT 2 titles WC U20, Olympic Gold

Never knew all Barca fans have that habit of comparing players by their personal achievement. good try for your age tho :coffee:

by Harmonica Sun Sep 04, 2011 11:46 am

The xcx wrote:
jiopsi wrote:
The xcx wrote:
jiopsi wrote:
diptiman wrote:
alexjanosik wrote:
rwo power wrote:
billionmillion wrote:Yeah you say Messi is not a top playmaker but i'm sure most of you would replace your current playmaker with Messi
Not necessarily. At least the playmaker(s) of the German NT can be considered proven at the highest level and they work pretty well there, while Messi has yet to prove his worth in another set-up but Barcelona.

Please not the system BS again.
By the same token I can equally well say that Oezil is not proven outside the German system.

ozil succeeded for werder bremen, german nt , real madrid(the hardest place to succeed imo).. all three were different systems..just saying
Double standards here are killing humankind.

Ozil on club level 3 titles
Messi on club level 17 titles

Ozil on NT 1 title Euro U21
Messi on NT 2 titles WC U20, Olympic Gold
Smh...Instead of comparison of performances for example, you come up with trophies..rofl
Well that's what you are doing here, right? Messi doesn't score or win tournament, means his not proven as playmaker?
hurrrrrr durrrrrrr.....I meant Invidual performance, idc about titles

WC 2010

Ozil 3 assists, team rank 3.
Messi 4 assists, team rank 5.

Copa America 2011

Messi 3 assists, most chances created per 90min.

Huurrrduuuur. :coffee:

by alexjanosik Sun Sep 04, 2011 11:47 am

diptiman wrote:
alexjanosik wrote:
rwo power wrote:
billionmillion wrote:Yeah you say Messi is not a top playmaker but i'm sure most of you would replace your current playmaker with Messi
Not necessarily. At least the playmaker(s) of the German NT can be considered proven at the highest level and they work pretty well there, while Messi has yet to prove his worth in another set-up but Barcelona.

Please not the system BS again.
By the same token I can equally well say that Oezil is not proven outside the German system.

ozil succeeded for werder bremen, german nt , real madrid(the hardest place to succeed imo).. all three were different systems..just saying

hmm let me see.
Different systems you say.
Khedira plays B2B for both Germany and Stoke.
Scweini plays a DLP for Germany,the guy who moves horizontally across the pitch.
Alonso plays the role for Stoke.
Mueller plays a hardworking winger on the right.Di Maria for Stoke.
Oezil as the number 10 or AM for both teams.A lone striker up top.
Oh yeah completely different system!!!!!!!!!!!!!
If you cpome up with BS be prepared to back it up.Else you end up looking foolish.

Lets see Oezil try to play CM or lets see Oezil try and play as a CF.Move him out of his natural position into a syustem with no structure,no defense and then see how he performs.

Till then just cut it with the BS.

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