Re: Apologise to English coaches...

by The Franchise Wed Aug 10, 2011 8:11 am

cyberman wrote:Dani, its the threads on here that were mocking English coaches for only producing kick and rush players

Our system is outdated, we judge players on size, power and speed

Well look now, Jones and Smalling are 2 of the most cultured young CBs in world football,
Theyll probably spend years playing behind a Wilshere / Cleverley / Morrison (trust me ) axis with Rooney behind a Welbeck

Thats a fantastic, technical spine to the team, an adaptable team that wouldnt be 4-4-2 playing down the wings

No revolution was needed, we didnt need to adapt to the German model, theyre bred from the English system

Credit where its true

But who is supposed to get credit for it?

Which coaches are we talking about?

And I also think that, changes have been talked about for over 10 years about youth coaching in England and finally we are starting to see some improvements.

I dont know how much credit should be given for the youth system arriving at the same conclusion everyone else has, just 15 plus years late.

by Yuri Yukuv Wed Aug 10, 2011 8:12 am

cyberman wrote:no country has 2 ball playing CBs better than Smalling and Jonee, but especially Smalling. Hes the best young CB in the world and ill hear no argument on that.

Morrison is a freak, theres no point in debating since you wont have seen him

Wilshere is Wilshere ffs, one of the top young players at what he does

Im not here to argue who is best, although most of those youngsters are destined for starting spots at the (for now) 2nd best team in the world Utd.

These are players that everyone said we couldnt produce while looky now, not a Heskey in sight and not a revolution needed

and B-Mac MUFC, its so wrong that Jones and Smalling were our most cultured players going forward with them being CBs

ffs

Luiz and thiago silva?

by checazzofai Wed Aug 10, 2011 8:13 am

Same old story. I wonder what the excuse will be when this generation fails to live up to this undeserved hype.

by chinomaster182 Wed Aug 10, 2011 9:16 am

I don't understand why everyone benchmarks England against the top nations in football. They will almost always lose when they face Brazil, Germany, Spain, etc.

by REWB Wed Aug 10, 2011 9:56 am

chinomaster182 wrote:I don't understand why everyone benchmarks England against the top nations in football. They will almost always lose when they face Brazil, Germany, Spain, etc.

England has won the world cup you know, they haven't always lost. they are a huge football nation, for you to write such a statement is ridicules and short sighted. we are talking about ENGLAND here the home of football.

by Swanhends Wed Aug 10, 2011 10:00 am

cyberman wrote:Long ball, lack of technical skill etc etc

Rooney Welbeck up front

Wilshere, Cleverley and in the next 12 months... Morrison and Mc Eachren

Smalling and Jones are 2 of the best young ball playing CBs youll find anywhere...tbf England always produce excellent CBs

Not all long ball Heskeys huh?

English coaches?

SAF is Scottish
Wenger is French
Villas Boas/Scolari/Hiddink/Ancelotti......Lets just say none of them are English
Dalglish is Scottish

.....The list of successful EPL coaches is a who's who of non-english people :coffee:

by Guest Wed Aug 10, 2011 10:03 am

chinomaster182 wrote:I don't understand why everyone benchmarks England against the top nations in football. They will almost always lose when they face Brazil, Germany, Spain, etc.

They didn't qualify for 2008 Euro's and failed to produce in 2010 :coffee:

by Guest Wed Aug 10, 2011 10:04 am

You see boys, in Serie A, mostly every coach is Italian. Point is, in EPL you guys in fact depend on Italians to do your dirty work, and I APOLOGIZE to say Italians and other foreigners coach your clubs. Say Hi to Fabio Capello! :coffee:

by Ganso Wed Aug 10, 2011 10:07 am

RedEyesWhiteBeard wrote:
chinomaster182 wrote:I don't understand why everyone benchmarks England against the top nations in football. They will almost always lose when they face Brazil, Germany, Spain, etc.

England has won the world cup you know, they haven't always lost. they are a huge football nation, for you to write such a statement is ridicules and short sighted. we are talking about ENGLAND here the home of football.

Yes England did win a wc...1000 years ago.have they ever done anything other than that on wcs?or even euros.we have been hearing the same things for a few years,on how England is having a gold gen and what not.I'm still waiting for the results

by REWB Wed Aug 10, 2011 10:10 am

Ganso wrote:
RedEyesWhiteBeard wrote:
chinomaster182 wrote:I don't understand why everyone benchmarks England against the top nations in football. They will almost always lose when they face Brazil, Germany, Spain, etc.

England has won the world cup you know, they haven't always lost. they are a huge football nation, for you to write such a statement is ridicules and short sighted. we are talking about ENGLAND here the home of football.
Yes England did win a wc...1000 years ago.have they ever done anything other than that on wcs?or even euros.we have been hearing the same things for a few years,on how England is having a gold gen and what not.I'm still waiting for the results

this england team is not a golden england team, it is a very technical england team, as i said english football is changing

by Magricos Wed Aug 10, 2011 10:13 am

Smfh "very technical" :lol!:

by Lord Hades Wed Aug 10, 2011 10:13 am

wow it has started again

the english hype and media charm.... itll be fun to watch england bowing out now Very Happy

by Magricos Wed Aug 10, 2011 10:14 am

I really wish the Holland match hadn't been cancelled.

by Guest Wed Aug 10, 2011 10:17 am

diptiman wrote:wow it has started again

the english hype and media charm.... itll be fun to watch england bowing out now

And we wouldn't be surprised when it happens. :coffee:

by B-Mac Wed Aug 10, 2011 10:46 am

bhends wrote:
cyberman wrote:Long ball, lack of technical skill etc etc

Rooney Welbeck up front

Wilshere, Cleverley and in the next 12 months... Morrison and Mc Eachren

Smalling and Jones are 2 of the best young ball playing CBs youll find anywhere...tbf England always produce excellent CBs

Not all long ball Heskeys huh?

English coaches?

SAF is Scottish
Wenger is French
Villas Boas/Scolari/Hiddink/Ancelotti......Lets just say none of them are English
Dalglish is Scottish

.....The list of successful EPL coaches is a who's who of non-english people

yet Mourinho was a Sir Bobby Robson protege and then Villas Boas too :coffee:

by Busby Babe Wed Aug 10, 2011 10:57 am

Sir Bobby got us to the semi's of the WC too. Damn penalties, damn Germans being good at penalties..... Mad

by Magricos Wed Aug 10, 2011 11:07 am

Mourinho was also a Van Gaal protege and Boas worked under Mourinho so what ?

by Gil Wed Aug 10, 2011 11:07 am

Magricos wrote: I really wish the Holland match hadn't been cancelled.

You do know we drew with The Netherlands only a few months ago right?

ffs. As if a pointless friendly a few days before the start of the League would have proved anything.

by Swanhends Wed Aug 10, 2011 11:11 am

Gil wrote:
Magricos wrote: I really wish the Holland match hadn't been cancelled.

You do know we drew with The Netherlands only a few months ago right?

ffs. As if a pointless friendly a few days before the start of the League would have proved anything.

So are you a Nigerian in England? Or a Nigerian in Nigeria posing as John C. English? :coffee:

by Guest Wed Aug 10, 2011 11:24 am

bhends wrote:
Gil wrote:
Magricos wrote: I really wish the Holland match hadn't been cancelled.

You do know we drew with The Netherlands only a few months ago right?

ffs. As if a pointless friendly a few days before the start of the League would have proved anything.

So are you a Nigerian in England? Or a Nigerian in Nigeria posing as John C. English?

by Guest Wed Aug 10, 2011 11:25 am

and when I make a thread about memorial of Sir Bobby, only 4 people respond.

Now if some Barca/RM player has a beer fart, we'll have 100 replies at least :coffee:

by RealGunner Wed Aug 10, 2011 11:27 am

Hes english born with Nigerian descent actually like Agbonlahor

by Mr Nick09 Wed Aug 10, 2011 11:28 am

RG i didnt know you were french?

by Magricos Wed Aug 10, 2011 11:29 am

England played Holland a few months ago. Suspect

by Gil Wed Aug 10, 2011 11:30 am

RealGunner wrote:Hes english born with Nigerian descent actually like Agbonlahor

bhends wrote:
Gil wrote:
Magricos wrote: I really wish the Holland match hadn't been cancelled.

You do know we drew with The Netherlands only a few months ago right?

ffs. As if a pointless friendly a few days before the start of the League would have proved anything.

So are you a Nigerian in England? Or a Nigerian in Nigeria posing as John C. English?

.

You guessed it! :coffee:

Jk, I'm just trolling the Nigerians on here.

by Guest Wed Aug 10, 2011 11:32 am

Magricos wrote: England played Holland a few months ago.

2 years ago.

Defoe shat on them

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