Apologise to English coaches...

so with all of this said.. when will England win a World Cup or Euro

Pearce really isn't admired much among the Englishmen here huh...

Catracho wrote:so with all of this said.. when will England win a World Cup or Euro

It's not about that, because they are always world class teams around and only 2 teams can win those at most every 4 years....

All we are saying is this the most technically gifted generation since 96 and if we get a coach that uses thier talents correctly in a system that works they can go far.

Not saying they win something, but they have talent across the board and just need a coach to make it work.

And yes Pearce is a inept prat, i'd take the majority of this forum over him tbh.

England need more than a good, competent coach. They need a media who doesn't insist on adding extra pressure and expectations and then castrating them when they couldn't meet the already unrealistic expectations.

England would never be as successful as Italy and Brasil internationally and having their level of expectations mix with an obvious fact that England has a serious underachievement going on isn't good. England generally has good players (generally, not necessarily all the time) but they are really other factors needed to be considered.

Coaching is just one of them...

B-Mac MUFC wrote:

Immaculate_Mole wrote:
You do realise the majority of englands best talent were not even at that tournament right ?

Oh yeah and Pearce is a moron.

@BMac

Hodgson is english aswell

ya i caught that lol fixed it

I'm sure England was not the only team at the tournament who had some issues with there optimal lineup. It's just the same excuses over and over again. The players mentioned in this thread all did play except one I believe.

My point is, what's the end game? England has had great CB's and midfielders for the last 10 years and flop constantly. No matter how bad they perform it's always the coach is an idiot, they didn't have there best team/ certain players should have played over others blah blah blah.

If you are a reasonable person and not a blinded fan of England it's really obvious that the English players look great in the club format when they can surround themselves with world class players from other countries, but when they get together for England they can't figure it out for whatever reason.

I'm not saying I know what the reason is, but I do know that you can only blame coaching/player selection for so long before the players need to look in the mirror.

Sorry I kind of rambled on there, what I meant by the end game is let's say these players are what Cyber is saying they are, what's the end game? In my opinion They won't win anything because in europe Germany has more talent and can come together as a team, the same thing with Spain. As far as the world cup goes, Brazil, Argentina, Holland etc etc will always have better teams in my opinion.

Doc wrote:England need more than a good, competent coach. They need a media who doesn't insist on adding extra pressure and expectations and then castrating them when they couldn't meet the already unrealistic expectations.

England would never be as successful as Italy and Brasil internationally and having their level of expectations mix with an obvious fact that England has a serious underachievement going on isn't good. England generally has good players (generally, not necessarily all the time) but they are really other factors needed to be considered.

Coaching is just one of them...

I agree tbh, but i do think the coaching issue has become more of a problem than the media has even though the media still is an issue.

LOL B-MAC PWNAGE!!!

Immaculate_Mole wrote:

Doc wrote:England need more than a good, competent coach. They need a media who doesn't insist on adding extra pressure and expectations and then castrating them when they couldn't meet the already unrealistic expectations.

England would never be as successful as Italy and Brasil internationally and having their level of expectations mix with an obvious fact that England has a serious underachievement going on isn't good. England generally has good players (generally, not necessarily all the time) but they are really other factors needed to be considered.

Coaching is just one of them...

I agree tbh, but i do think the coaching issue has become more of a problem than the media has even though the media still is an issue.

England is a 1st world nation with a 1st world sort of thinking (I assume) so eventually you lot would realise what Germany is doing is actually pretty good for your football. Don't know if you might admit it though :p. Basically, coaching may seem a problem now but I reckon it would be fix given time. I really doubt the general media has plans on changing it's ways though.

i dont blame coaches....
coaches can only do so much...

English players have a different mentality
their mentality is that they are better than everyone else
none of the players have the slightest humility to admit they need more practice. Players who know when they are doing bad. Agents dont help when they hype their player up to other clubs. I think England has many talented players. Players with immense ability but poor execution. They dont have the brains of the Germans, the creativity of South Americans, the technical ability of Spaniards. and their inability to recognize that is what is bringing them down.
In England there are only 2-3 players who I think could make it on that Spain team or even the current Brazillian team.
If more players could have the mentality of Jack Wilshere then England would be one of the best teams in the world. Players who give a damn about their country. I have rarely seen a player who plays as good for his national team as they do for their club. Gerrard, Lampard, Terry, Ferdinand none of them are the stars they are for their club. They were supposed to be the "Golden Generation", they were nothing like a golden generation and if the English want to go down this road again by hyping up their players and their clubs paying them the major salaries that these 18yr olds are getting then English Football hasnt moved forward.
You want to blame Capello for everything that has happened. He can only do so much with a team of players who arent even half as commited for their country
/rant over
i await the shitstorm

dnmac4 wrote:

B-Mac MUFC wrote:

Immaculate_Mole wrote:
You do realise the majority of englands best talent were not even at that tournament right ?

Oh yeah and Pearce is a moron.

@BMac

Hodgson is english aswell

ya i caught that lol fixed it

I'm sure England was not the only team at the tournament who had some issues with there optimal lineup. It's just the same excuses over and over again. The players mentioned in this thread all did play except one I believe.

My point is, what's the end game? England has had great CB's and midfielders for the last 10 years and flop constantly. No matter how bad they perform it's always the coach is an idiot, they didn't have there best team/ certain players should have played over others blah blah blah.

If you are a reasonable person and not a blinded fan of England it's really obvious that the English players look great in the club format when they can surround themselves with world class players from other countries, but when they get together for England they can't figure it out for whatever reason.

I'm not saying I know what the reason is, but I do know that you can only blame coaching/player selection for so long before the players need to look in the mirror.

Sorry I kind of rambled on there, what I meant by the end game is let's say these players are what Cyber is saying they are, what's the end game? In my opinion They won't win anything because in europe Germany has more talent and can come together as a team, the same thing with Spain. As far as the world cup goes, Brazil, Argentina, Holland etc etc will always have better teams in my opinion.

The coach is an idiot lol, who plays Gerrard on the left wing, Barry as the main DM, no Adam Johnson and Heskey upfront?

Look iam not saying we are the most talented team out there all iam saying is its extremely talented bunch and if tactics and style of play fitted them they could go far.

Also let' look at the so called golden generation of midfielders with Gerrard, Scholes and Lampard......

Scholes hardly played and we played a 4-4-2 with Gerrard and Lampard as CM's with no defensive cover....

As i said the main problem is'nt talent its tactics, style of play and formation that suits the players and quite frankly we hav'nt had this for years.

It's not the players fought, its the coaches we hav'nt had a competent coach with varied tactical knowledge since Venables.

And were did we finish under him in the Euro's?

Oh yeah we lost to Germany on penaltys in the semi finals

[quote="Immaculate_Mole"][quote="dnmac4"][quote="B-Mac MUFC"]

Immaculate_Mole wrote:
You do realise the majority of englands best talent were not even at that tournament right ?



The coach is an idiot lol, who plays Gerrard on the left wing, Barry as the main DM, no Adam Johnson and Heskey upfront?

Look iam not saying we are th msot talented team out there all iam saying is its extremely bunch and if tactics and style of play fitted them they could go far.

Also let' look at the so called golden generation of midfielders with Gerrard, Scholes and Lampard......

Scholes hardly played and we played a 4-4-2 with Gerrard and Lampard as CM's with no defensive cover....

As i said the main problem is'nt talent its tactics, style of play and formation that suits the players and quite frankly we hav'nt had this for years.

It's not the players fought, its the coaches we hav'nt had a competent coach with varied tactical knowledge since Venables.

And were did we finish under him in the Euro's?

Oh yeah we lost to Germany on penaltys in the semi finals

honestly Capello is not an idiot
he could not have won so much with Milan, Juve, Madrid,... and so on without being a good coach. You cant blame every coach who coaches England. They cannot all be idiots and none of them can be Gods.... You are very unlucky that Mourinho doesnt want to coach you guys. He would shut the main fungus growing and hindering your progress.... the press. Capello is a hard ass and everyone who supports a team who he has coached will know it. He manages to do great things. Think 06-07, when Madrid won the league after coming back from 9 pts behind. If you could see one thing is that, whenever there is a coach who doesnt win, he immediately becomes an idiot. Noone out there is blaming the players. Noone is saying that the players out there werent good enough

Immaculate_Mole wrote:

dnmac4 wrote:

B-Mac MUFC wrote:

Immaculate_Mole wrote:
You do realise the majority of englands best talent were not even at that tournament right ?

Oh yeah and Pearce is a moron.

@BMac

Hodgson is english aswell

ya i caught that lol fixed it

I'm sure England was not the only team at the tournament who had some issues with there optimal lineup. It's just the same excuses over and over again. The players mentioned in this thread all did play except one I believe.

My point is, what's the end game? England has had great CB's and midfielders for the last 10 years and flop constantly. No matter how bad they perform it's always the coach is an idiot, they didn't have there best team/ certain players should have played over others blah blah blah.

If you are a reasonable person and not a blinded fan of England it's really obvious that the English players look great in the club format when they can surround themselves with world class players from other countries, but when they get together for England they can't figure it out for whatever reason.

I'm not saying I know what the reason is, but I do know that you can only blame coaching/player selection for so long before the players need to look in the mirror.

Sorry I kind of rambled on there, what I meant by the end game is let's say these players are what Cyber is saying they are, what's the end game? In my opinion They won't win anything because in europe Germany has more talent and can come together as a team, the same thing with Spain. As far as the world cup goes, Brazil, Argentina, Holland etc etc will always have better teams in my opinion.

The coach is an idiot lol, who plays Gerrard on the left wing, Barry as the main DM, no Adam Johnson and Heskey upfront?

Look iam not saying we are th msot talented team out there all iam saying is its extremely bunch and if tactics and style of play fitted them they could go far.

Also let' look at the so called golden generation of midfielders with Gerrard, Scholes and Lampard......

Scholes hardly played and we played a 4-4-2 with Gerrard and Lampard as CM's with no defensive cover....

As i said the main problem is'nt talent its tactics, style of play and formation that suits the players and quite frankly we hav'nt had this for years.

It's not the players fought, its the coaches we hav'nt had a competent coach with varied tactical knowledge since Venables.

And were did we finish under him in the Euro's?

Oh yeah we lost to Germany on penaltys in the semi finals

Yes, you still lost. I mean you didn't even qualify for the Euro's one year, that is not all on the coaching. The point of the thread was that we have to apologize to English coaching for some reason?? Nothing has changed, you produced some good midfielders and really good CB's, thats nothing new. You always have good mid's and really good CB's.

At the club level the other countries players make up for where the English are deficient, coaching, first touch, and technical skills and in turn make them look better then they can perform for there country.

Other countries have better young and old talent then England and Capello didn't turn into a bad coach over night.

B-Mac MUFC wrote:

sciacca wrote:Yes, apologies to them. We apologize that the EPL has more foreign coaches then English coaches, even the national team is being coached by an Italian.

Arsenal: Arsene Wenger

Aston Villa: Alex Mcleish (british)

Blackburn Rovers: Steve Kean (british)

Bolton Wanderers: Owen Coyle (british)

Chelsea: Andre Viillas Boas

Everton: David Moyes (british)

Fulham: Mark Hughes (british)

Liverpool: Kenny Dalglish (british)

Manchester City: Roberto Mancini

Manchester United: Alex Ferguson (british)

Newcastle United: Alan Pardew (british)

Stoke City: Tony Pulis (british)

Sunderland: Steve Bruce (british)

Tottenham Hotspur: Harry Redknapp (british)

West Bromwich Albion: Roy Hodgson (british)

Wigan Athletic: Roberto Martinez

Wolverhampton Wanderers: Mick McCarthy (british)

Swansea City: Brendan Rodgers (british)

Norwich City: Paul Lambert (british)

QPR: Neil Warnock (british)


o yaaa all those bloody foreign coaches ffs....

just talk outta your ass eh

how many of those coaches are ENGLISH?
this aint Britain we are talking about
in that list there are probably 5-6 English coaches

[quote="punkfusion1992"][quote="Immaculate_Mole"][quote="dnmac4"]

B-Mac MUFC wrote:

Immaculate_Mole wrote:
You do realise the majority of englands best talent were not even at that tournament right ?



The coach is an idiot lol, who plays Gerrard on the left wing, Barry as the main DM, no Adam Johnson and Heskey upfront?

Look iam not saying we are th msot talented team out there all iam saying is its extremely bunch and if tactics and style of play fitted them they could go far.

Also let' look at the so called golden generation of midfielders with Gerrard, Scholes and Lampard......

Scholes hardly played and we played a 4-4-2 with Gerrard and Lampard as CM's with no defensive cover....

As i said the main problem is'nt talent its tactics, style of play and formation that suits the players and quite frankly we hav'nt had this for years.

It's not the players fought, its the coaches we hav'nt had a competent coach with varied tactical knowledge since Venables.

And were did we finish under him in the Euro's?

Oh yeah we lost to Germany on penaltys in the semi finals

honestly Capello is not an idiot
he could not have won so much with Milan, Juve, Madrid,... and so on without being a good coach. You cant blame every coach who coaches England. They cannot all be idiots and none of them can be Gods.... You are very unlucky that Mourinho doesnt want to coach you guys. He would shut the main fungus growing and hindering your progress.... the press. Capello is a hard ass and everyone who supports a team who he has coached will know it. He manages to do great things. Think 06-07, when Madrid won the league after coming back from 9 pts behind. If you could see one thing is that, whenever there is a coach who doesnt win, he immediately becomes an idiot. Noone out there is blaming the players. Noone is saying that the players out there werent good enough

I dont care what he did at club football, international football is a total different kettle of fish.

Fact is he has no clue what players to pick for England( Shown by his recent squad selection)tactics, formation ect etc.

Just because you win CL's at club level does'nt mean you are forgiven for making wrong decision after wrong decision as England manager.

I'd like to know how many people have watched England on a regular basis under Capello here? or are you just basing your opinions on Capello as a club coach so it must be all the players fought?

The ignorance on this forum is amazing

Yes, talking about of my ass

ENGLAND TO WIN EC 2012 & WC 2014 HEARD IT HERE FIRST!!!!!

[quote="Immaculate_Mole"][quote="punkfusion1992"][quote="Immaculate_Mole"]

dnmac4 wrote:

B-Mac MUFC wrote:

Immaculate_Mole wrote:
You do realise the majority of englands best talent were not even at that tournament right ?



The coach is an idiot lol, who plays Gerrard on the left wing, Barry as the main DM, no Adam Johnson and Heskey upfront?

Look iam not saying we are th msot talented team out there all iam saying is its extremely bunch and if tactics and style of play fitted them they could go far.

Also let' look at the so called golden generation of midfielders with Gerrard, Scholes and Lampard......

Scholes hardly played and we played a 4-4-2 with Gerrard and Lampard as CM's with no defensive cover....

As i said the main problem is'nt talent its tactics, style of play and formation that suits the players and quite frankly we hav'nt had this for years.

It's not the players fought, its the coaches we hav'nt had a competent coach with varied tactical knowledge since Venables.

And were did we finish under him in the Euro's?

Oh yeah we lost to Germany on penaltys in the semi finals

honestly Capello is not an idiot
he could not have won so much with Milan, Juve, Madrid,... and so on without being a good coach. You cant blame every coach who coaches England. They cannot all be idiots and none of them can be Gods.... You are very unlucky that Mourinho doesnt want to coach you guys. He would shut the main fungus growing and hindering your progress.... the press. Capello is a hard ass and everyone who supports a team who he has coached will know it. He manages to do great things. Think 06-07, when Madrid won the league after coming back from 9 pts behind. If you could see one thing is that, whenever there is a coach who doesnt win, he immediately becomes an idiot. Noone out there is blaming the players. Noone is saying that the players out there werent good enough

I dont care what he did at club football, international football is a total different kettle of fish.

Fact is he has no clue what players to pick for England( Shown by his recent squad selection)tactics, formation ect etc.

Just because you win CL's at club level does'nt mean you are forgiven for making wrong decision after wrong decision as England manager.

I'd like to know how many people have watched England on a regular basis under Capello here? or are you just basing your opinions on Capello as a club coach so it must be all the players fought?

The ignorance on this forum is amazing

I don't really know how you can call other's ignorant when you are on here saying that every coach no matter what there accomplishments are before they coach England just spontaneously forget how to coach when they take the England job. Do you know how ignorant that sounds?

B-Mac MUFC wrote:

sciacca wrote:Yes, apologies to them. We apologize that the EPL has more foreign coaches then English coaches, even the national team is being coached by an Italian.

Arsenal: Arsene Wenger

Aston Villa: Alex Mcleish (Scottish)

Blackburn Rovers: Steve Kean (Scottish)

Bolton Wanderers: Owen Coyle (Scottish)

Chelsea: Andre Viillas Boas

Everton: David Moyes (Scottish)

Fulham: Mark Hughes (Welsh)

Liverpool: Kenny Dalglish (Scottish)

Manchester City: Roberto Mancini

Manchester United: Alex Ferguson (Scottish)

Newcastle United: Alan Pardew (british)

Stoke City: Tony Pulis (Welsh)

Sunderland: Steve Bruce (british)

Tottenham Hotspur: Harry Redknapp (british)

West Bromwich Albion: Roy Hodgson (british)

Wigan Athletic: Roberto Martinez

Wolverhampton Wanderers: Mick McCarthy (Irish)

Swansea City: Brendan Rodgers (Irish)

Norwich City: Paul Lambert (Scottish)

QPR: Neil Warnock (british)


o yaaa all those bloody foreign coaches ffs....

just talk outta your ass eh

Check again...

William wallace and his comrades would be rolling in their graves right now.

[quote="dnmac4"][quote="Immaculate_Mole"][quote="punkfusion1992"]

Immaculate_Mole wrote:

dnmac4 wrote:

B-Mac MUFC wrote:

Immaculate_Mole wrote:
You do realise the majority of englands best talent were not even at that tournament right ?



The coach is an idiot lol, who plays Gerrard on the left wing, Barry as the main DM, no Adam Johnson and Heskey upfront?

Look iam not saying we are th msot talented team out there all iam saying is its extremely bunch and if tactics and style of play fitted them they could go far.

Also let' look at the so called golden generation of midfielders with Gerrard, Scholes and Lampard......

Scholes hardly played and we played a 4-4-2 with Gerrard and Lampard as CM's with no defensive cover....

As i said the main problem is'nt talent its tactics, style of play and formation that suits the players and quite frankly we hav'nt had this for years.

It's not the players fought, its the coaches we hav'nt had a competent coach with varied tactical knowledge since Venables.

And were did we finish under him in the Euro's?

Oh yeah we lost to Germany on penaltys in the semi finals

honestly Capello is not an idiot
he could not have won so much with Milan, Juve, Madrid,... and so on without being a good coach. You cant blame every coach who coaches England. They cannot all be idiots and none of them can be Gods.... You are very unlucky that Mourinho doesnt want to coach you guys. He would shut the main fungus growing and hindering your progress.... the press. Capello is a hard ass and everyone who supports a team who he has coached will know it. He manages to do great things. Think 06-07, when Madrid won the league after coming back from 9 pts behind. If you could see one thing is that, whenever there is a coach who doesnt win, he immediately becomes an idiot. Noone out there is blaming the players. Noone is saying that the players out there werent good enough

I dont care what he did at club football, international football is a total different kettle of fish.

Fact is he has no clue what players to pick for England( Shown by his recent squad selection)tactics, formation ect etc.

Just because you win CL's at club level does'nt mean you are forgiven for making wrong decision after wrong decision as England manager.

I'd like to know how many people have watched England on a regular basis under Capello here? or are you just basing your opinions on Capello as a club coach so it must be all the players fought?

The ignorance on this forum is amazing

I don't really know how you can call other's ignorant when you are on here saying that every coach no matter what there accomplishments are before they coach England just spontaneously forget how to coach when they take the England job. Do you know how ignorant that sounds?

I dont forget them ffs, i realise he's one of the greatest club managers of the last 30 years, but the fact is he's made lots of mistakes as England manager and iam not going to blame it on the players just because he's Capello he has made amateur mistakes that no manager should make.

Dont you think its possible that a world class club manager can be meh at international level? it is possible.

But i suppose not, Playing your best midfielder on the Left Wing, not calling up one of the countrys best wingers, playing Emile frakking Heskey upfront, Barry as DM and putting your best gk on the bench is not ok.

But i suppose it is when your names Fabio Capello it must be due to the players being crap.

Note: This is the WC 2010 alone i can show you many many more mistakes he has made as England manager but it's Fabio Capello so it must be the players because Fabio Capello is faultless.

[quote="Immaculate_Mole"][quote="dnmac4"][quote="Immaculate_Mole"]

punkfusion1992 wrote:

Immaculate_Mole wrote:

dnmac4 wrote:

B-Mac MUFC wrote:

Immaculate_Mole wrote:
You do realise the majority of englands best talent were not even at that tournament right ?



The coach is an idiot lol, who plays Gerrard on the left wing, Barry as the main DM, no Adam Johnson and Heskey upfront?

Look iam not saying we are th msot talented team out there all iam saying is its extremely bunch and if tactics and style of play fitted them they could go far.

Also let' look at the so called golden generation of midfielders with Gerrard, Scholes and Lampard......

Scholes hardly played and we played a 4-4-2 with Gerrard and Lampard as CM's with no defensive cover....

As i said the main problem is'nt talent its tactics, style of play and formation that suits the players and quite frankly we hav'nt had this for years.

It's not the players fought, its the coaches we hav'nt had a competent coach with varied tactical knowledge since Venables.

And were did we finish under him in the Euro's?

Oh yeah we lost to Germany on penaltys in the semi finals

honestly Capello is not an idiot
he could not have won so much with Milan, Juve, Madrid,... and so on without being a good coach. You cant blame every coach who coaches England. They cannot all be idiots and none of them can be Gods.... You are very unlucky that Mourinho doesnt want to coach you guys. He would shut the main fungus growing and hindering your progress.... the press. Capello is a hard ass and everyone who supports a team who he has coached will know it. He manages to do great things. Think 06-07, when Madrid won the league after coming back from 9 pts behind. If you could see one thing is that, whenever there is a coach who doesnt win, he immediately becomes an idiot. Noone out there is blaming the players. Noone is saying that the players out there werent good enough

I dont care what he did at club football, international football is a total different kettle of fish.

Fact is he has no clue what players to pick for England( Shown by his recent squad selection)tactics, formation ect etc.

Just because you win CL's at club level does'nt mean you are forgiven for making wrong decision after wrong decision as England manager.

I'd like to know how many people have watched England on a regular basis under Capello here? or are you just basing your opinions on Capello as a club coach so it must be all the players fought?

The ignorance on this forum is amazing

I don't really know how you can call other's ignorant when you are on here saying that every coach no matter what there accomplishments are before they coach England just spontaneously forget how to coach when they take the England job. Do you know how ignorant that sounds?

I dont forget them ffs, i realise he's one of the greatest club managers of the last 30 years, but the fact is he's made lots of mistakes as England manager and iam not going to blame it on the players just because he's Capello he has made amateur mistakes that no manager should make.

Dont you think its possible that a world class club manager can be meh at international level? it is possible.

But i suppose not, Playing your best midfielder on the Left Wing, not calling up one of the countrys best wingers, playing Emile frakking Heskey upfront, Barry as DM and putting your best gk on the bench is not ok.

But i suppose it is when your names Fabio Capello it must be due to the players being crap.

Note: This is the WC 2010 alone i can show you many many more mistakes he has made as England manager but it's Fabio Capello so it must be the players because Fabio Capello is faultless.

It's not just Capello. Like I said I can't put my finger on what is wrong with there team but something doesn't work. Every coach that has coached this group has been called a bad coach by the England fans. After a while, you have to look somewhere other then the coach.

There's a reason certain coach's don't want the job. The fans put too much pressure on them and the players on the team aren't good enough. It's a lose lose situation for any coach. They just don't have the players to win international tournaments, but thats also not the issue as they don't even come anywhere close to winning them.

Arquitecto wrote:

B-Mac MUFC wrote:

sciacca wrote:Yes, apologies to them. We apologize that the EPL has more foreign coaches then English coaches, even the national team is being coached by an Italian.

Arsenal: Arsene Wenger

Aston Villa: Alex Mcleish (Scottish)

Blackburn Rovers: Steve Kean (Scottish)

Bolton Wanderers: Owen Coyle (Scottish)

Chelsea: Andre Viillas Boas

Everton: David Moyes (Scottish)

Fulham: Mark Hughes (Welsh)

Liverpool: Kenny Dalglish (Scottish)

Manchester City: Roberto Mancini

Manchester United: Alex Ferguson (Scottish)

Newcastle United: Alan Pardew (british)

Stoke City: Tony Pulis (Welsh)

Sunderland: Steve Bruce (british)

Tottenham Hotspur: Harry Redknapp (british)

West Bromwich Albion: Roy Hodgson (british)

Wigan Athletic: Roberto Martinez

Wolverhampton Wanderers: Mick McCarthy (Irish)

Swansea City: Brendan Rodgers (Irish)

Norwich City: Paul Lambert (Scottish)

QPR: Neil Warnock (british)


o yaaa all those bloody foreign coaches ffs....

just talk outta your ass eh

Check again...

William wallace and his comrades would be rolling in their graves right now.

punkfusion1992 wrote:
how many of those coaches are ENGLISH?
this aint Britain we are talking about
in that list there are probably 5-6 English coaches

they can all carry the same British passport...and Mcarthy was born in England, just played for Ireland...and Rodgers is northern irish....so you might wanna check again

not to mention Welsh teams play in the english leagues...

and last time i checked england was still apart of great britain so yes Britain is what we are talking about

This is football when England won the WC none of the other teams won it. There is a reason why there are different FA's we are not speaking about political geography.

Magricos wrote: This is football when England won the WC none of the other teams won it. There is a reason why there are different FA's we are not speaking about political geography.

but calling them Foreign? that's ridiculous like we have some influx of continental coaches in the league...

B-Mac MUFC wrote:

Magricos wrote: This is football when England won the WC none of the other teams won it. There is a reason why there are different FA's we are not speaking about political geography.

but calling them Foreign? that's ridiculous like we have some influx of continental coaches in the league...

They probably shouldn't have said that and I really don't care where the coaches come from. People don't seem to realize it isn't only about the coaches but the players as well if they play a significant role for their clubs and if they play in the CL regularly.

B-Mac MUFC wrote:

Arquitecto wrote:

B-Mac MUFC wrote:

sciacca wrote:Yes, apologies to them. We apologize that the EPL has more foreign coaches then English coaches, even the national team is being coached by an Italian.

Arsenal: Arsene Wenger

Aston Villa: Alex Mcleish (Scottish)

Blackburn Rovers: Steve Kean (Scottish)

Bolton Wanderers: Owen Coyle (Scottish)

Chelsea: Andre Viillas Boas

Everton: David Moyes (Scottish)

Fulham: Mark Hughes (Welsh)

Liverpool: Kenny Dalglish (Scottish)

Manchester City: Roberto Mancini

Manchester United: Alex Ferguson (Scottish)

Newcastle United: Alan Pardew (british)

Stoke City: Tony Pulis (Welsh)

Sunderland: Steve Bruce (british)

Tottenham Hotspur: Harry Redknapp (british)

West Bromwich Albion: Roy Hodgson (british)

Wigan Athletic: Roberto Martinez

Wolverhampton Wanderers: Mick McCarthy (Irish)

Swansea City: Brendan Rodgers (Irish)

Norwich City: Paul Lambert (Scottish)

QPR: Neil Warnock (british)


o yaaa all those bloody foreign coaches ffs....

just talk outta your ass eh

Check again...

William wallace and his comrades would be rolling in their graves right now.

punkfusion1992 wrote:
how many of those coaches are ENGLISH?
this aint Britain we are talking about
in that list there are probably 5-6 English coaches

they can all carry the same British passport...and Mcarthy was born in England, just played for Ireland...and Rodgers is northern irish....so you might wanna check again

not to mention Welsh teams play in the english leagues...

and last time i checked england was still apart of great britain so yes Britain is what we are talking about

Mcarthy was born in England but raised in Ireland.

Yes, Rodgers is Northern Irish, but not english as northern ireland is still considered Irish but under the Queens name.

Wales? Yet again part of a union but classified as a separate country.

Theres a reason the national team isn't called Britain or that the EPL is the BPL (British premier league).

cyberman wrote:Dani, its the threads on here that were mocking English coaches for only producing kick and rush players

Our system is outdated, we judge players on size, power and speed

Well look now, Jones and Smalling are 2 of the most cultured young CBs in world football,
Theyll probably spend years playing behind a Wilshere / Cleverley / Morrison (trust me ) axis with Rooney behind a Welbeck

Thats a fantastic, technical spine to the team, an adaptable team that wouldnt be 4-4-2 playing down the wings

No revolution was needed, we didnt need to adapt to the German model, theyre bred from the English system

Credit where its true

But who is supposed to get credit for it?

Which coaches are we talking about?

And I also think that, changes have been talked about for over 10 years about youth coaching in England and finally we are starting to see some improvements.

I dont know how much credit should be given for the youth system arriving at the same conclusion everyone else has, just 15 plus years late.