2021/2022 Premier League Discussion

danyjr wrote:

danyjr wrote:

Spoiler:

This.

This is not true at all. Mendy has ruptured his ACL twice, has barely played in a City shirt and is now under going under serious allegation for 7 rape cases and is jailed for it, its safe to say his career was over long ago, using him as a depth options just seem to be filling in gaps here. Cancelo and B.Silva have been starter one of the best thing Pep did was utilize Cancelo as a LB as well despite him being a RB, which has solved there LB position for the time being. B.Silva is there best midfielder for the past 2 years, he fits well with either KdB or Gundo, I'd say KdB and Gundo pairing is a much weaker midfield, it was one the reason why they had a poor 19/20 season and the season why they made a CL final and won the league last season with B.Silva.

City best XI would look like this

Sterling-KdB-Mahrez
Gundo-Rodri-B.Silva
Cancelo-Laporte-Dias-Walker

They're bench XI

Grealish-Jesus-Kayky (???)
Foden-Fernandinho-Palmer (???)
Zinchenko-Ake-Stones-???
Steffen

That is not the most stacked depth ever my man, even Pep would struggle to get that team in the top 4 yet alone challenge for the title.

The best thing for City is how they barely drop a beat when Zinchenko starts ahead of either Walker/Cancelo, or how well Jesus has done on the wings many times even out performing Mahrez, and then Foden benching Sterling and Grealish. These 3 have been largely there unsung depth hero's.

For many years I've stop judging players on their valuation due to prices going bonkers over the years. Let me ask you do you think Gomez and Matip quality wise are worse then Ake and Stones? I personally don't think so, they cost a lot more, but you throw Gomez or Matip beside Dias and Pep with his 70% possession I don't think City lose much there.

I feel because people see City options off the bench performing much higher we seem to exaggerate their depth. An example is looking at the attack depth for United, City, Chelsea and Liverpool

United: Sancho, Ronaldo, Rashford, Cavani, Greenwood, Martial
City: Mahrez, Sterling, Foden, Jesus, Grealish
Chelsea: Hakim, Hudson-Odoi, Werner, Lukaku, Pulisic, Kai
Liverpool: Mane, Firmino, Salah, Jota, Chamberlain (???), Origi, Minamino

Liverpool have it the worst here, because after Jota, there is a big decline in terms of attacking forwards. While with City, United and Chelsea there isn't much based off quality, but City are performing at a higher level, so we tend to think they're better, but this is Pep getting the best out of his group in comparison to other clubs.

City starting XI: £571m
City bench XI: £347m

Liverpool starting XI: £332m
Liverpool bench XI: £152m

City's bench have cost them more than Liverpool's starting XI. Nuff said.

Late 2000s United had a far more stacked bench/reserves team than City IMO, especially compared to the rest of the league a the time

danyjr wrote:

farfan wrote:

danyjr wrote:Also imagine Klopp had you believe Salah was the best player on the planet. The guy was on form for what, 3 months? He moves like a snail these days.

"These days" he's the league's top scorer AND top assist provider Like, what the hell are you even talking about?

Who cares who is the top scorer? Look at the competition. Vardy and Kane off form. City playing with no striker. His own team mate Jota is 2nd and Croydon De Bruyne is 4th! What a time to be alive.

I've watched Salah for 3 straight matches and he's been gobshite. Eyes don't like.

Eyes don't lie, but small samples do. He's been excellent this season.

Looking like it could be back-to-back PL's with no goalscoring focal point. Incredible.

danyjr wrote:Also imagine Klopp had you believe Salah was the best player on the planet. The guy was on form for what, 3 months? He moves like a snail these days.

Shut it, he's breaking records every week for the past 4 years and you dumbshits can't look past a gameweek.

We can't compete with City but we will try. Its almost over but not yet.

It's Arsenal's to lose now, tbh

Foden is such a gem. Lovely player

We are losing two players to injury every game, it has been brutal since the Juventus game.

Blue wrote:We are losing two players to injury every game, it has been brutal since the Juventus game.

I hear you have a great bench that can rival even Man City, so you should be fine

“Wallahi bro, I told you not to celebrate Christmas” pic.twitter.com/fuhQF8lIk9

— Taylor (@ThfcTL) February 9, 2021

“Mo Salah puts on a terrible performance whenever he celebrates Christmas, you have to ask yourself where was Pogba in all this? He should be guiding his Muslim brother” pic.twitter.com/L4dqx6DHrU

— george (@TheStokeNabMan) December 28, 2021

Benches tonight:

Arrizabalaga
Sarr
Alonso
Kante
Chalobah
Niguez
Barkley
Ziyech
Havertz
(£268m)

Steffen
Carson
Zinchenko
Mbete
Gundogan
Palmer
Sterling
Mahrez
(£137m)

How can Chelsea compete?

— Mike (@TheCartel14) December 29, 2021

They only had 250m players on their bench and City having to put to GK to make a full squad. I'm sorry that I feel a team that has 250m+ sitting on their bench have a strong depth to rival City.

Looks funnier side by side pic.twitter.com/V9ELgWpFCF

— BlueCityBrain (@BlueCityBrain) December 30, 2021

City have 17 squad players out of 22, yet according to some they have this UNFAIR and crazy depths compared to their rivals.


300-400M starting line up yesterday, 250m on the bench and another 100m on injury, but they don't have City depth

Oh boy!

Romelu Lukaku to @SkySport: "Physically I am fine. But I'm NOT happy with the situation at Chelsea. Tuchel has chosen to play with another system - I won't give up, I'll be professional. I am not happy with the situation but I am professional - and I can't give up now". #CFC pic.twitter.com/KGNoJ10cwp

— Fabrizio Romano (@FabrizioRomano) December 30, 2021

Lukaku speaking out against Tucheliban, what a brave warrior

Tucheliban

Tucheliban lmaooo is this a new meme?

Winter is Coming wrote:

Benches tonight:

Arrizabalaga
Sarr
Alonso
Kante
Chalobah
Niguez
Barkley
Ziyech
Havertz
(£268m)

Steffen
Carson
Zinchenko
Mbete
Gundogan
Palmer
Sterling
Mahrez
(£137m)

How can Chelsea compete?

— Mike (@TheCartel14) December 29, 2021

They only had 250m players on their bench and City having to put to GK to make a full squad. I'm sorry that I feel a team that has 250m+ sitting on their bench have a strong depth to rival City.

Looks funnier side by side pic.twitter.com/V9ELgWpFCF

— BlueCityBrain (@BlueCityBrain) December 30, 2021

City have 17 squad players out of 22, yet according to some they have this UNFAIR and crazy depths compared to their rivals.


300-400M starting line up yesterday, 250m on the bench and another 100m on injury, but they don't have City depth

Who made this second excel table, that's crazy and such a big misrepresentation atleast wrt to Liverpool

Winter is Coming wrote:

Benches tonight:

Arrizabalaga
Sarr
Alonso
Kante
Chalobah
Niguez
Barkley
Ziyech
Havertz
(£268m)

Steffen
Carson
Zinchenko
Mbete
Gundogan
Palmer
Sterling
Mahrez
(£137m)

How can Chelsea compete?

— Mike (@TheCartel14) December 29, 2021

We should start a gofundme for chelsea

Don't think Xhaka has understood that VAR exists

or maybe noone told him?

Arsenal falling apart in classic Arsenal fashion.

Leading 1-0 and playing well, giving away a silly penalty, not scoring an open goal and getting a very very stupid red card.

Odegaard complaining about getting subbed out when his team is a man down The reports of him being a little piece of shit are easy to believe.

absolute fukcking dimwits throwing it away all on their won

Bernardo had his hands on Xhaka just as well, then falls down like a man sniped.

City fishing for pens as usual.

I'll hold my judgement of Cancelo despite people going crazy for him here.

I can see exactly why Rincon wasn't a huge fan of him. A glorified winger playing in a system that exaggerates his strengths and masks his shortcomings.