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Post by Winter is Coming Wed Dec 29, 2021 3:46 am

danyjr wrote:
danyjr wrote:
Spoiler:
This.

This is not true at all. Mendy has ruptured his ACL twice, has barely played in a City shirt and is now under going under serious allegation for 7 rape cases and is jailed for it, its safe to say his career was over long ago, using him as a depth options just seem to be filling in gaps here. Cancelo and B.Silva have been starter one of the best thing Pep did was utilize Cancelo as a LB as well despite him being a RB, which has solved there LB position for the time being. B.Silva is there best midfielder for the past 2 years, he fits well with either KdB or Gundo, I'd say KdB and Gundo pairing is a much weaker midfield, it was one the reason why they had a poor 19/20 season and the season why they made a CL final and won the league last season with B.Silva.

City best XI would look like this

Sterling-KdB-Mahrez
Gundo-Rodri-B.Silva
Cancelo-Laporte-Dias-Walker

They're bench XI

Grealish-Jesus-Kayky (???)
Foden-Fernandinho-Palmer (???)
Zinchenko-Ake-Stones-???
Steffen

That is not the most stacked depth ever my man, even Pep would struggle to get that team in the top 4 yet alone challenge for the title.

The best thing for City is how they barely drop a beat when Zinchenko starts ahead of either Walker/Cancelo, or how well Jesus has done on the wings many times even out performing Mahrez, and then Foden benching Sterling and Grealish. These 3 have been largely there unsung depth hero's.

For many years I've stop judging players on their valuation due to prices going bonkers over the years. Let me ask you do you think Gomez and Matip quality wise are worse then Ake and Stones? I personally don't think so, they cost a lot more, but you throw Gomez or Matip beside Dias and Pep with his 70% possession I don't think City lose much there.

I feel because people see City options off the bench performing much higher we seem to exaggerate their depth. An example is looking at the attack depth for United, City, Chelsea and Liverpool

United: Sancho, Ronaldo, Rashford, Cavani, Greenwood, Martial
City: Mahrez, Sterling, Foden, Jesus, Grealish
Chelsea: Hakim, Hudson-Odoi, Werner, Lukaku, Pulisic, Kai
Liverpool: Mane, Firmino, Salah, Jota, Chamberlain (???), Origi, Minamino

Liverpool have it the worst here, because after Jota, there is a big decline in terms of attacking forwards. While with City, United and Chelsea there isn't much based off quality, but City are performing at a higher level, so we tend to think they're better, but this is Pep getting the best out of his group in comparison to other clubs.

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Post by danyjr Wed Dec 29, 2021 12:40 pm

City starting XI: £571m
City bench XI: £347m

Liverpool starting XI: £332m
Liverpool bench XI: £152m

City's bench have cost them more than Liverpool's starting XI. Nuff said.
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Post by BarrileteCosmico Wed Dec 29, 2021 1:21 pm

Late 2000s United had a far more stacked bench/reserves team than City IMO, especially compared to the rest of the league a the time
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Post by farfan Wed Dec 29, 2021 1:41 pm

danyjr wrote:
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danyjr wrote:Also imagine Klopp had you believe Salah was the best player on the planet. The guy was on form for what, 3 months? He moves like a snail these days.


"These days" he's the league's top scorer AND top assist provider Laughing Like, what the hell are you even talking about?
Who cares who is the top scorer? Look at the competition. Vardy and Kane off form. City playing with no striker. His own team mate Jota is 2nd and Croydon De Bruyne is 4th! What a time to be alive.

I've watched Salah for 3 straight matches and he's been gobshite. Eyes don't like.


Eyes don't lie, but small samples do. He's been excellent this season.
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Post by Casciavit Wed Dec 29, 2021 11:14 pm

Looking like it could be back-to-back PL's with no goalscoring focal point. Incredible.
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Post by Nishankly Thu Dec 30, 2021 1:24 am

danyjr wrote:Also imagine Klopp had you believe Salah was the best player on the planet. The guy was on form for what, 3 months? He moves like a snail these days.


Shut it, he's breaking records every week for the past 4 years and you dumbshits can't look past a gameweek.
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Post by Nishankly Thu Dec 30, 2021 1:26 am

We can't compete with City but we will try. Its almost over but not yet.
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Post by Lex Thu Dec 30, 2021 2:53 am

It's Arsenal's to lose now, tbh
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Post by FennecFox7 Thu Dec 30, 2021 3:29 am

Foden is such a gem. Lovely player
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Post by Blue Thu Dec 30, 2021 3:57 am

We are losing two players to injury every game, it has been brutal since the Juventus game.
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Post by Thimmy Thu Dec 30, 2021 11:17 am

Blue wrote:We are losing two players to injury every game, it has been brutal since the Juventus game.


I hear you have a great bench that can rival even Man City, so you should be fine hmm
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Post by M99 Thu Dec 30, 2021 11:20 am



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Post by FennecFox7 Thu Dec 30, 2021 2:14 pm

Laughing Laughing Laughing
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Post by Winter is Coming Thu Dec 30, 2021 5:13 pm



They only had 250m players on their bench and City having to put to GK to make a full squad. I'm sorry that I feel a team that has 250m+ sitting on their bench have a strong depth to rival City.



City have 17 squad players out of 22, yet according to some they have this UNFAIR and crazy depths compared to their rivals. Laughing


300-400M starting line up yesterday, 250m on the bench and another 100m on injury, but they don't have City depth Rolling Eyes
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Post by Winter is Coming Thu Dec 30, 2021 6:50 pm

Oh boy!

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Post by M99 Thu Dec 30, 2021 10:21 pm

Lukaku speaking out against Tucheliban, what a brave warrior :bow:
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Post by BarrileteCosmico Fri Dec 31, 2021 12:45 am

Tucheliban Laughing
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Post by Nishankly Fri Dec 31, 2021 12:54 am

Tucheliban lmaooo is this a new meme? rofl
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Post by Nishankly Fri Dec 31, 2021 12:57 am

Winter is Coming wrote:

They only had 250m players on their bench and City having to put to GK to make a full squad. I'm sorry that I feel a team that has 250m+ sitting on their bench have a strong depth to rival City.



City have 17 squad players out of 22, yet according to some they have this UNFAIR and crazy depths compared to their rivals. Laughing


300-400M starting line up yesterday, 250m on the bench and another 100m on injury, but they don't have City depth Rolling Eyes


Who made this second excel table, that's crazy and such a big misrepresentation atleast wrt to Liverpool
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Post by Myesyats Fri Dec 31, 2021 9:10 am

Winter is Coming wrote:

We should start a gofundme for chelsea

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Post by Hapless_Hans Sat Jan 01, 2022 1:48 pm

Don't think Xhaka has understood that VAR exists

or maybe noone told him?
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Post by danyjr Sat Jan 01, 2022 1:50 pm

Arsenal falling apart in classic Arsenal fashion.

Leading 1-0 and playing well, giving away a silly penalty, not scoring an open goal and getting a very very stupid red card.

Laughing
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Post by farfan Sat Jan 01, 2022 1:54 pm

Odegaard complaining about getting subbed out when his team is a man down Laughing The reports of him being a little piece of shit are easy to believe.
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Post by Hapless_Hans Sat Jan 01, 2022 2:02 pm

absolute fukcking dimwits throwing it away all on their won
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Post by Lord Spencer Sat Jan 01, 2022 2:05 pm

Bernardo had his hands on Xhaka just as well, then falls down like a man sniped.

City fishing for pens as usual.

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Post by danyjr Sat Jan 01, 2022 2:14 pm

I'll hold my judgement of Cancelo despite people going crazy for him here.

I can see exactly why Rincon wasn't a huge fan of him. A glorified winger playing in a system that exaggerates his strengths and masks his shortcomings.
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