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Post by Warrior Sun Sep 26, 2021 12:24 pm

*erase my Perin appreciation post*

Beauty by Crossdreva

What a bizarre match. We were playing well i hope to not lose focus. At least everybody gives an effort this first half, maybe a bit too much from Cuadrado Very Happy (wtf did he do) and Dybala also injured after jumping it seems

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Post by Robespierre Sun Sep 26, 2021 12:24 pm

Yoshida from Japan @Jesp has scored against Inter and Juve in a month
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Post by rincon Sun Sep 26, 2021 12:26 pm

Warrior wrote:*erase my Perin appreciation post*

Beauty by Crossdreva

What a bizarre match. We were playing well i hope to not lose focus. At least everybody gives an effort this first half, maybe a bit too much from Cuadrado Very Happy (wtf did he do) and Dybala also injured after jumping it seems

That was On Bonucci, not Perin.

Perin had just made a good save before the corner, then Yoshida slipped past Bonucci and left Perin no chance.
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Post by Warrior Sun Sep 26, 2021 12:33 pm

I was writing that Szczesny would probably let that shot in, the one that led to the corner

That cross froze everybody, i'm not mad, as far as i'm concerned the 1st gk role is now Perin's to lose
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Post by rincon Sun Sep 26, 2021 12:37 pm

Agreed. Its a normal goal to concede, but given how we concede every game (more stupid goals) its frustrating
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Post by Robespierre Sun Sep 26, 2021 12:42 pm

Hapless_Hans wrote:

The action wasn't finished though. Play went on. The ball was ruled as not out by the ref and the action went on.
Then later VAR intervenes by taking a situation that was originally judged to Atalanta's disadvantage and use it to disadvantage Atalanta further.

Why should VAR intervene here? It shouldn't.


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Post by rincon Sun Sep 26, 2021 12:51 pm

A goal made by the will to press hard and make something happen by Chiesa, Kulu, and Locatelli.

Same as vs Spezia with three goals by Chiesa, De Ligt, and Kean.

These young players are more hungry, theyvwant to make everything happen. Far cry from Bentancur, Rabiot, Szczesny, and Alex Sandro mostly being passengers
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Post by Warrior Sun Sep 26, 2021 1:00 pm

Locatelli was in the weeds before that goal. Against Ekdal there is only so much one can do but now he's subbed out.

Bentancur a nice surprise to see him play football

I love the movement by the clumsy bunch Morata, Chiesa, Kulu, Berna they bring speed and grit. If they can build chemistry this season we will score many goals.
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Post by Warrior Sun Sep 26, 2021 1:03 pm

Ah yes

The classical sub an extra defender for no reason strategy
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Post by Hapless_Hans Sun Sep 26, 2021 1:04 pm

Jesp wrote:
Robespierre wrote:
Hapless_Hans wrote:

The action wasn't finished though. Play went on. The ball was ruled as not out by the ref and the action went on.
Then later VAR intervenes by taking a situation that was originally judged to Atalanta's disadvantage and use it to disadvantage Atalanta further.

Why should VAR intervene here? It shouldn't.


Ball overstepped the line before of Handanovic's shot.

So action wasn't valid anymore.

What's to understand ?

Curiosity : I was already so mad for penalty missed by Dimarco, Inter concede 2-3 immediately and so I close my Dazn on PC.
I come back after 2 mins  and I read 2-2 . Good surprise at least


but hans, ref later admitted after VAR check that it should have been out of bounds in first place. i think it was a valid appeal from inter players, it was just unfortunate for Atalanta. but sometimes even VAR misses things like that it could have gone the other way with Atalanta win and probably a different discussion would have taken place


You both don't understand the point. I'm not arguing whether or not the ball was out.
I'm arguing whether or not VAR should intervene here to nullify the goal.

VAR doesn't intervene in all kinds of situations. In fact, VAR only rarely ever intervenes. It certainly doesn't intervene just because a ball is questionably byond or not beyond the out line.

The fact that the ref let play continue instead of giving a corner was a decision wrongly made in Inter's favor.
Why should VAR intervene afterwards to correct this decision to nullify a goal, again in Inter's favour?

Do you understand the point I'm making here? That's why I used the word 'advantage', as an analogy to the advantage rule where a referee is supposed to let play go on despite foul to not deprive the wronged team of further advantage.
Shouldn't there be an 'advantage' rule when it comes to VAR intervention?

VAR rules are new, they are not set as precendent.

And it's not enough to just point out to the rule that a ball that is out means play is interrupted.
We are not talking about that. Because, again, play way not interrupted.
We are talking about the rule when and under what condition VAR is supposed to intervene and bring an action back.

Try to think a bit harder.
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Post by Robespierre Sun Sep 26, 2021 1:19 pm

Excited for Roma derby today


Last edited by Robespierre on Sun Sep 26, 2021 1:20 pm; edited 2 times in total
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Post by rincon Sun Sep 26, 2021 1:19 pm

@Hans

This is how VAR has been implemented in serie a from day 1. One of the first uses was in fact disallowing a goal that Juve scored after a similar situation.
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Post by Robespierre Sun Sep 26, 2021 1:20 pm

Hapless_Hans wrote:
You both don't understand the point. I'm not arguing whether or not the ball was out.
I'm arguing whether or not VAR should intervene here to nullify the goal.

VAR doesn't intervene in all kinds of situations. In fact, VAR only rarely ever intervenes. It certainly doesn't intervene just because a ball is questionably byond or not beyond the out line.

The fact that the ref let play continue instead of giving a corner was a decision wrongly made in Inter's favor.
Why should VAR intervene afterwards to correct this decision to nullify a goal, again in Inter's favour?

Do you understand the point I'm making here? That's why I used the word 'advantage', as an analogy to the advantage rule where a referee is supposed to let play go on despite foul to not deprive the wronged team of further advantage.
Shouldn't there be an 'advantage' rule when it comes to VAR intervention?

VAR rules are new, they are not set as precendent.

And it's not enough to just point out to the rule that a ball that is out means play is interrupted.
We are not talking about that. Because, again, play way not interrupted.
We are talking about the rule when and under what condition VAR is supposed to intervene and bring an action back.

Try to think a bit harder.


Again, you haven't read my post written at 11:42 AM .

It's written exactly  on VAR prtocol.

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Post by Hapless_Hans Sun Sep 26, 2021 1:24 pm

Is that the right thing to do though?
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Post by Robespierre Sun Sep 26, 2021 3:22 pm

Jesp wrote:perhaps, inter has this huge luxury than any other team in Serie A in terms of squad depth - Perisic can play that LWB role, there is Darmian who can play that role, there is also Kolarov, Di Ambrosio can fill that role if really needed. So DiMarco has tough competition.

This is why I keep telling inter have quality and depth ahead of anyone in Serie A but Robes keeps denying that Very Happy they are fav to win scudetto


This is the cliche speech " The grass is always greener on the other side"
You've even pulled in Kolarov who 's super-finished.
D'Ambrosio lol
Inter and Milan have a comparable depth, Saelemakers is not worse than others
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Post by Robespierre Sun Sep 26, 2021 5:20 pm

Milinkovic Savic big games player except for when he plays against Milan
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Post by Robespierre Sun Sep 26, 2021 5:22 pm

2-0 Pedro after 22 min Laughing
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Post by Kaladin Sun Sep 26, 2021 5:24 pm

Roma in typical fashion, are the same hot and cold team even under Mourinho

The Roma fanbase will devour him unfortunately
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Post by Robespierre Sun Sep 26, 2021 5:39 pm

Immobile close to 3-0, Lazio dominant on counterattack
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Post by Robespierre Sun Sep 26, 2021 5:44 pm

Robespierre wrote:Immobile close to 3-0, Lazio dominant on counterattack


and after this , Ibanez scores for Roma, 2-1 Laughing

Great derby , another splendid big match after Inter-Atalanta

Serie Zzzzz to who ?
imagine watching Arsenal-Spurs 3-0 rather than this ffs
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Post by Casciavit Sun Sep 26, 2021 6:17 pm

Daniel Maldini looks like a Serie C level player every time I see him. I don't think he's got the juice to make it at this level.

I mean his goal was a nice moment for Milan fans because of his family, but if he's our backup #10 then I will not be pleased.
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Post by Robespierre Sun Sep 26, 2021 6:25 pm

3-1 , Felipe Anderson on Immobile assist

honestly I don't rate Mancini, overrated for goals but he can't defend.
having said that it's missing the traditional Mourinho defensive phase at Roma so far, not just today
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Post by RealGunner Sun Sep 26, 2021 6:26 pm

Surprised at this result.

Has service to PREMIER LEAGUE EXPERIENCED TAMMY been poor?
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Post by Casciavit Sun Sep 26, 2021 6:26 pm

Sarriball making easy work of Mourinho?
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Post by rincon Sun Sep 26, 2021 6:28 pm

Zaniolo tripping and calling for a penalty ?
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